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your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: marco
Date: 28-08-2004, 03:56
Which are your predictions about matches of first round UEFA Cup?

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: ToRn
Date: 28-08-2004, 05:45
1. Grazer AK v PFC Litex Lovech 45/55 Litex go through
2. S.S. Lazio v FC Metalurh Donetsk* 65/35 Lazio
3. FK Bod/Glimt v Besiktas JK 10/90 Besiktas
4. Shelbourne FC v Lille OSC 15/85 Lille
5. Heart of Midlothian FC v SC Braga 40/60 Braga
6. FK Austria Wien v Legia Warszawa 60/40 Austria
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica v SL Benfica 20/80 Benfica
8. FK Partizan v FC Dinamo Bucuresti 55/45 Partizan
9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 90/10 Parma
10. Real Zaragoza v SK Sigma Olomouc 75/25 Zaragoza
11. Sporting Clube de Portugal v SK Rapid Wien 60/40 Sporting
12. Newcastle United FC v Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 90/10 Newcastle
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti v PFC CSKA Sofia 55/45 Steaua
14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 70/30 Wisla
15. FC Utrecht v Djurgrdens IF 70/30 Utrecht
16. Millwall FC v Ferencvrosi TC 45/55 Ferencvrosi
17. FC Schalke 04 v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 90/10 Schalke
18. Maccabi Haifa FC v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 45/55 Dnipro
19. FC Terek Grozny v FC Basel 1893 30/70 Basel
20. Odd Grenland v Feyenoord 10/90 Feyenoord
21. Aalborg BK v AJ Auxerre 20/80 Auxerre
22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 85/15 Sevilla
23. NK Gorica v AEK Athens FC 20/80 AEK
24. R. Standard de Lige v VfL Bochum 1848 55/45 Standard
25. FK Crvena Zvezda v FC Zenit St. Peterburg 45/55 Zenit
26. Trabzonspor v Athletic Club Bilbao 45/55 Athletic
27. jpesti TE v VfB Stuttgart 25/75 Stuttgart
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC v SC Heerenveen 35/65 Heerenveen
29. Panionios NFC v Udinese Calcio 20/80 Udinese
30. PFC Levski Sofia v KSK Beveren 55/45 Levski
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb v IF Elfsborg 60/40 Dinamo
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur v TSV Alemannia Aachen 25/75 Alemannia
33. Middlesbrough FC v FC Bank Ostrava 45/55 Bank
34. Club Brugge KV v LB Chteauroux 60/40 Brugge
35. PAOK FC v AZ Alkmaar 70/30 PAOK
36. FK Ventspils v KS Amica Wronki 35/65 Amica
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard v Stabk IF 75/25 Sochaux
38. Egaleo FC v Genlerbirligi SK 30/70 Genlerbirligi
39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 65/35 Rangers
40. Villarreal CF v Hammarby 80/20 Villarreal

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Aliceag
Date: 28-08-2004, 06:09
1. Grazer AK v PFC Litex Lovech 40/60 Litex go through
2. S.S. Lazio v FC Metalurh Donetsk 75/25 Lazio
3. FK Bod/Glimt v Besiktas JK 40/60 Besiktas
4. Shelbourne FC v Lille OSC 35/65 Lille
5. Heart of Midlothian FC v SC Braga 40/60 Braga
6. FK Austria Wien v Legia Warszawa 40/60 Legia
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica v SL Benfica 20/80 Benfica
8. FK Partizan v FC Dinamo Bucuresti 70/30 Partizan
9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 50/50 Maribor on penalties
10. Real Zaragoza v SK Sigma Olomouc 75/25 Zaragoza
11. Sporting Clube de Portugal v SK Rapid Wien 70/30 Sporting
12. Newcastle United FC v Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 80/20 Newcastle
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti v PFC CSKA Sofia 50/50 CSKA on away goals
14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 40/60 Dinamo
15. FC Utrecht v Djurgrdens IF 60/40 Utrecht
16. Millwall FC v Ferencvrosi TC 40/60 Ferencvrosi
17. FC Schalke 04 v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 80/20 Schalke
18. Maccabi Haifa FC v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 60/40 Haifa
19. FC Terek Grozny v FC Basel 1893 30/70 Basel
20. Odd Grenland v Feyenoord 30/70 Feyenoord
21. Aalborg BK v AJ Auxerre 30/70 Auxerre
22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 50/50 Nacional on away goals
23. NK Gorica v AEK Athens FC 30/70 AEK
24. R. Standard de Lige v VfL Bochum 1848 40/60 Bochum
25. FK Crvena Zvezda v FC Zenit St. Peterburg 70/30 Crvena
26. Trabzonspor v Athletic Club Bilbao 40/60 Athletic
27. jpesti TE v VfB Stuttgart 25/75 Stuttgart
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC v SC Heerenveen 30/70 Heerenveen
29. Panionios NFC v Udinese Calcio 20/80 Udinese
30. PFC Levski Sofia v KSK Beveren 60/40 Levski
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb v IF Elfsborg 60/40 Dinamo
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur v TSV Alemannia Aachen 40/60 Alemannia
33. Middlesbrough FC v FC Bank Ostrava 50/50 Bank on penalties
34. Club Brugge KV v LB Chteauroux 60/40 Brugge
35. PAOK FC v AZ Alkmaar 60/40 PAOK
36. FK Ventspils v KS Amica Wronki 40/60 Amica
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard v Stabk IF 70/30 Sochaux
38. Egaleo FC v Genlerbirligi SK 30/70 Genlerbirligi
39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 50/50 Martimo on away goals
40. Villarreal CF v Hammarby 80/20 Villarreal

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: areksen
Date: 28-08-2004, 10:42
Aliceag
you must be jokeing!!!


14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 40/60 Dinamo

22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 50/50 Nacional on away goals

39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 50/50 Martimo on away goals


If any of those teams actually advance as you say, I will say that I don't know anything about Football!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: areksen
Date: 28-08-2004, 10:43
Aliceag

oops i missed one:

9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 50/50 Maribor on penalties

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Dneprchemp
Date: 28-08-2004, 10:58
1. Grazer AK v PFC Litex Lovech 50/50 Litex
2. S.S. Lazio v FC Metalurh Donetsk 65/35 Lazio
3. FK Bod/Glimt v Besiktas JK 25/75 Besiktas
4. Shelbourne FC v Lille OSC 20/80 Lille
5. Heart of Midlothian FC v SC Braga 45/55 Braga
6. FK Austria Wien v Legia Warszawa 55/45 Austria
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica v SL Benfica 20/80 Benfica
8. FK Partizan v FC Dinamo Bucuresti 50/50 Dinamo
9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 80/20 Parma
10. Real Zaragoza v SK Sigma Olomouc 70/30 Zaragoza
11. Sporting Clube de Portugal v SK Rapid Wien 55/45 Sporting
12. Newcastle United FC v Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 90/10 Newcastle
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti v PFC CSKA Sofia 52/48 Steaua
14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 70/30 Wisla
15. FC Utrecht v Djurgrdens IF 65/35 Utrecht
16. Millwall FC v Ferencvrosi TC 40/60 Ferencvrosi
17. FC Schalke 04 v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 90/10 Schalke
18. Maccabi Haifa FC v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 50/50 Dnipro
19. FC Terek Grozny v FC Basel 1893 35/65 Basel
20. Odd Grenland v Feyenoord 20/80 Feyenoord
21. Aalborg BK v AJ Auxerre 20/80 Auxerre
22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 60/40 Nacional
23. NK Gorica v AEK Athens FC 25/75 AEK
24. R. Standard de Lige v VfL Bochum 1848 45/55 Bochum
25. FK Crvena Zvezda v FC Zenit St. Peterburg 45/55 Zenit
26. Trabzonspor v Athletic Club Bilbao 50/50 Trabzonspor
27. jpesti TE v VfB Stuttgart 25/75 Stuttgart
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC v SC Heerenveen 35/65 Heerenveen
29. Panionios NFC v Udinese Calcio 25/75 Udinese
30. PFC Levski Sofia v KSK Beveren 60/40 Levski
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb v IF Elfsborg 65/35 Dinamo
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur v TSV Alemannia Aachen 30/70 Alemannia
33. Middlesbrough FC v FC Bank Ostrava 50/50 Bank
34. Club Brugge KV v LB Chteauroux 70/30 Brugge
35. PAOK FC v AZ Alkmaar 60/40 PAOK
36. FK Ventspils v KS Amica Wronki 35/65 Amica
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard v Stabk IF 80/20 Sochaux
38. Egaleo FC v Genlerbirligi SK 30/70 Genlerbirligi
39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 60/40 Rangers
40. Villarreal CF v Hammarby 80/20 Villarreal

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: maymunata
Date: 28-08-2004, 11:29
1. Grazer AK v PFC Litex Lovech 50/50
2. S.S. Lazio v FC Metalurh Donetsk 75/25 Lazio
3. FK Bod/Glimt v Besiktas JK 1/99 Besiktas
4. Shelbourne FC v Lille OSC 25/75 Lille
5. Heart of Midlothian FC v SC Braga 50/50 Hearts
6. FK Austria Wien v Legia Warszawa 75/25 Austria
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica v SL Benfica 1/99 Benfica
8. FK Partizan v FC Dinamo Bucuresti 75/25 Partizan
9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 99/1 Parma
10. Real Zaragoza v SK Sigma Olomouc 50/50 Sigma
11. Sporting Clube de Portugal v SK Rapid Wien 75/25 Sporting
12. Newcastle United FC v Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 99/1 Newcastle
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti v PFC CSKA Sofia 50/50
14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 75/25 Wisla
15. FC Utrecht v Djurgrdens IF 75/25 Utrecht
16. Millwall FC v Ferencvrosi TC 50/50 Millwall
17. FC Schalke 04 v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 99/1 Schalke
18. Maccabi Haifa FC v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 50/50 Dnipro
19. FC Terek Grozny v FC Basel 1893 25/75 Basel
20. Odd Grenland v Feyenoord 1/99 Feyenoord
21. Aalborg BK v AJ Auxerre 25/75 Auxerre
22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 75/25 Sevilla
23. NK Gorica v AEK Athens FC 25/75 AEK
24. R. Standard de Lige v VfL Bochum 1848 50/50 Bochum
25. FK Crvena Zvezda v FC Zenit St. Peterburg 50/50 Zenit
26. Trabzonspor v Athletic Club Bilbao 25/75 Athletic
27. jpesti TE v VfB Stuttgart 25/75 Stuttgart
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC v SC Heerenveen 25/75 Heerenveen
29. Panionios NFC v Udinese Calcio 25/75 Udinese
30. PFC Levski Sofia v KSK Beveren 75/25
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb v IF Elfsborg 75/25 Dinamo
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur v TSV Alemannia Aachen 50/50 Alemannia
33. Middlesbrough FC v FC Bank Ostrava 75/25 Boro
34. Club Brugge KV v LB Chteauroux 99/1 Brugge
35. PAOK FC v AZ Alkmaar 25/75 AZ
36. FK Ventspils v KS Amica Wronki 25/75 Amica
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard v Stabk IF 75/25 Sochaux
38. Egaleo FC v Genlerbirligi SK 25/75 Genlerbirligi
39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 75/25 Rangers
40. Villarreal CF v Hammarby 75/25 Villarreal

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: JPV
Date: 28-08-2004, 12:15
 1. Grazer AK                PFC Litex Lovech         60/40
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 90/10
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 20/80
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 10/90
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 40/60
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 50/50
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 30/70
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 50/50
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 90/10
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 60/40
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 60/40
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 80/20
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 50/50
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 80/20
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 70/30
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 50/50
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 80/20
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 70/30
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 30/70
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 20/80
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 20/80
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 30/70
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 50/50
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 40/60
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 40/50
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 40/60
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 40/60
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 25/75
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 70/30
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 60/40
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 30/70
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 70/30
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 80/20
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 70/30
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 30/70
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 70/30
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 40/60
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 60/40
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 80/20

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: kurt
Date: 28-08-2004, 13:36
club brugge- LB Chteauroux

i see some people write 60-40, i can't believe that.
Brugge is a subtopper in europe,once in the two years in champions league, never last in the group, neither in second round.

BUT LB Chteauroux is second devision in france and team ranked at the bottom. With al the respect brugge will win easily two times.

burgge- LB Chteauroux 95-5

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Zibir
Date: 28-08-2004, 13:47
For citizens of Serbia & Cerno Gora
What reaction in SCG on Crvena Zvezda draw?
One of Zenit trener Vladimir Borovicka (Czech) said that he don't want to meet with SCG's clubs, because his team (before Zenit) played very bad versus Yugoslavian team, and also Hungarian, Polish and Soviet.
May be give me a link on forum or guest book of FK CZ Beograd?

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: anita
Date: 28-08-2004, 15:03
JPV's list is so close to my predictions that I let his nicely pre-formatted list count for me as well. But I disagree on match 26, Trabzon-Bilbao. I would give 50-50, not 40-50. But maybe 10% that the match will not be played

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: kurt
Date: 28-08-2004, 18:17
1. Grazer AK v PFC Litex Lovech 60/40
2. S.S. Lazio v FC Metalurh Donetsk 75/25 Lazio
3. FK Bod/Glimt v Besiktas JK 10/90 Besiktas
4. Shelbourne FC v Lille OSC 15/85 Lille
5. Heart of Midlothian FC v SC Braga 35/65 Hearts
6. FK Austria Wien v Legia Warszawa 70/30 Austria
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica v SL Benfica 5/95 Benfica
8. FK Partizan v FC Dinamo Bucuresti 75/25 Partizan
9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 95/5 Parma
10. Real Zaragoza v SK Sigma Olomouc 75/25 zaragoza
11. Sporting Clube de Portugal v SK Rapid Wien 55/45 Sporting
12. Newcastle United FC v Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 95/5 Newcastle
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti v PFC CSKA Sofia 50/50
14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 85/15 Wisla
15. FC Utrecht v Djurgrdens IF 75/25 Utrecht
16. Millwall FC v Ferencvrosi TC 80/20 Millwall
17. FC Schalke 04 v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 95/5 Schalke
18. Maccabi Haifa FC v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 60/40 maccabi
19. FC Terek Grozny v FC Basel 1893 25/75 Basel
20. Odd Grenland v Feyenoord 5/95 Feyenoord
21. Aalborg BK v AJ Auxerre 15/85 Auxerre
22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 85/15 Sevilla
23. NK Gorica v AEK Athens FC 15/85 AEK
24. R. Standard de Lige v VfL Bochum 1848 40/60 Bochum
25. FK Crvena Zvezda v FC Zenit St. Peterburg 60/40 Zenit
26. Trabzonspor v Athletic Club Bilbao 25/75 Athletic
27. jpesti TE v VfB Stuttgart 20/80 Stuttgart
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC v SC Heerenveen 25/75 Heerenveen
29. Panionios NFC v Udinese Calcio 25/75 Udinese
30. PFC Levski Sofia v KSK Beveren 70/30
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb v IF Elfsborg 75/25 Dinamo
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur v TSV Alemannia Aachen 50/50 Alemannia
33. Middlesbrough FC v FC Bank Ostrava 75/25 Boro
34. Club Brugge KV v LB Chteauroux 95/5 Brugge
35. PAOK FC v AZ Alkmaar 80/20 AZ
36. FK Ventspils v KS Amica Wronki 15/85 Amica
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard v Stabk IF 85/15 Sochaux
38. Egaleo FC v Genlerbirligi SK 25/75 Genlerbirligi
39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 55/45 Rangers
40. Villarreal CF v Hammarby 80/20 Villarreal

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: ivcotto
Date: 28-08-2004, 18:26
It is rather strange that all of you suppose Zenit SPb to be a favourite in his battle against Red Star/ Believe me, it is not true...

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Zibir
Date: 28-08-2004, 19:18
2 ivcotto
And why?
I don't know where you from, but I from Russia and I support FC Zenit. I think that Zenit have good chance against Crvena Zvezda, because it almost 4 years in succession is one of the leaders of Russian Premier-Liga (excluding 2002). Zenit have good players from Russian, Ukrainian, Czech and Macedonian national team, good trainer Vlastimil Petrzela, which 2 years at the head of team and good financial. I know that CZ is one of two grands of Serbian football, I know that Serbian football players are very stronge, but now players leave Serbian football. Now in CZ play players of 1981-1983 years born. Zenit is not old too, but slightly more senior, maybe slightly more skilled. Your reason?

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Dneprchemp
Date: 28-08-2004, 19:48
I think Zenit is favorite! It has good chanses to be champion of Russia! I saw their game, they are very strong team, one of the strongest teams in CIC (USSR)now!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: fbfan
Date: 28-08-2004, 19:57
I don't think it is right for people to judge other people's predictions. Becuase no one knows what's going to happen. I've seen people pick an underdog and someone else call them "stupid" for doing so. And then the underdog wins. I think it would smart for people to keep their mouth shut until the games are played. And then you can call someones predictions stupid as many times as you want.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: LevskiFan
Date: 28-08-2004, 20:59
1. Grazer AK PFC Litex Lovech 45/55 LITEX LOVECH THROUGH
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 70/30
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 30/70 besiktas through
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 50/50 Shelbourne through
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 40/60 Braga through
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 70/30 Austria through
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 10/90 benfica through
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 45/55 Dinamo through
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 95/5 Parma through
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 70/30 Zaragoza through
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 70/30 Sporting through
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 100/0 Newcastle through
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 20/80 CSKA SOFIA THROUGH
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 60/40 Wisla through
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 30/70 Djurgardens through
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 45/55 Ferencvarosi through
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 80/20 Shalke through
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 50/50 Maccabi through
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 40/60 Basel through
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 30/70 Feyenoord through
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 40/60 Auxerre through
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 90/10 Sevilla through
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 50/50 Gorica through
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 40/60 Bochum through
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 40/60 Zenit through
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 40/60 Bilbao through
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 10/90 Stuttgart through
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 45/55 Herenveen through
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 0/100
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 99/1 LEVSKI SOFIA THROUGH
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 50/50 Elfsborg through
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 55/45 Hafnarfjrdur through
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 70/30 Middlesbrough through
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 70/30 Brugge through
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 50/50 Az Alkmaar through
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 50/50 Ventspils through
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 70/30 38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 0/100 Genclerbirligi through
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 50/50 Rangers through
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 70/30 Villareal through

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: ivcotto
Date: 28-08-2004, 21:36
I`m from Saint-Petersburg. Any questions?

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Richie
Date: 28-08-2004, 21:37
1. Grazer AK PFC Litex Lovech 65/35
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 90/10
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 20/80
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 15/90
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 45/55
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 45/55
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 25/75
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 70/30
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 90/10
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 75/25
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 50/50
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 75/25
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 60/40
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 80/20
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 55/45
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 40/60
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 80/20
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 55/45
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 35/65
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 20/80
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 20/80
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 30/70
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 50/50
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 60/40
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 45/55
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 40/60
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 40/60
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 25/75
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 70/30
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 65/35
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 30/70
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 60/40
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 80/20
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 70/30
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 30/70
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 70/30
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 40/60
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 60/40
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 85/15

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: AlanK
Date: 28-08-2004, 22:43
I pretty much agree with ToRn--except I have CSKA Sofia, Djurgardens, and Middlesborough winning against Steaua, Utrecht, and Banik O. My upset special is Maritimo beating Rangers; my fear (as a 100% fan of Spain) is Sevilla vs Nacional.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: kondor
Date: 28-08-2004, 23:01
Crvena Zvezda supporters aren't too thrilled to be facing Zenit in the first round because they think the other 4 teams are a much easier opponent and Partizan had a terrible draw as well. Zvezda did not want Zenit beacuse they're in great form right now and the Russian season is at midpoint while Serbian league has just started. Zvezda players are unexperienced as the average age of the team is only 21 years old and this is a disadvantage when you play in Europe. Usually when i watch Zvezda away they're a different team because they play so bad for saome reason but at home they can beat anyone, that's just their mentality. But just to let you know, the media in Belgrade is not underestimating Zenit and neither is the coach Ljupko Petrovic. Crvena Zvezda plays Zemun tomorrow and I hope they can win after what happened with PSV.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: kamen
Date: 28-08-2004, 23:41
To maymunata:
Maimuna si si!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: aliihsan
Date: 28-08-2004, 23:45
1. Grazer AK PFC Litex Lovech 60/40
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 70/30
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 30/70
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 20/80
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 50/50
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 51/49
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 25/75
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 60/40
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 70/30
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 75/25
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 51/49
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 85/15
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 45/55
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 70/30
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 51/49
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 50/50
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 80/20
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 50/50
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 35/65
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 25/75
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 20/80
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 40/60
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 50/50
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 50/50
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 51/49
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 35/65
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 40/60
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 35/65
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 55/45
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 65/35
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 40/60
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 70/30
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 65/35
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 60/40
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 35/65
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 70/30
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 45/55
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 70/30
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 75/25

Some matches I just copied but I can say Standard-Bochum and Trabzon-Athletic matches will be very interesting

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Omero
Date: 29-08-2004, 01:58
Newcastle - Sahknin - 99/1

Maccabi Haifa - Dnipro - 70/30

Maccabi Petah-Tikwa - Heerenveen - 30/70

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: mark
Date: 29-08-2004, 03:08
Suprise watch list:

New castle - Sakhnin: Big difference in budget and players but.... lousy start of the season for NC, very impresive wins for shakhnin against partizani, NC plays (AFAIK) traditional english football while shakhnin plays a greek style defensive football of the sort the english don't know how to win against it. It is a very long shot but I will not be suprised if there will be a lot of trouble for NC.

Petakh-Tikva - Heerenveen: don't know a thing about Heerenveen, but it looks like they also have a shity start of season, and I'm always not sure about the quality of the lesser team from greece and the netherlands as they seem to ride the tide of the big 3 teams in their country without much success of their own. Petach-Tikva for now it is an unexpected team, one day they lose 3-0 and the next win 4-0 against the same team. If P-T will be in good shape, they may win.

Haifa-Dnipro: Very bad draw for Haifa. Dnipro reached round 3 last year so they have to know how to play football. Key point IMO will be if they will succeed to score two goals in israel, as haifa almost for sure will score in ukrain. Decision by away goals or penalties is the most likely outcome.

Millwall - Ferencvrosi: Ferencvrosi is a better team, they will qualify.

Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa: It is time that the austian football will start to recover its position in europe, IMO an open game.

Sporting Club de PortugalSK - Rapid Wien: same as above.

Hafnarfjrdur - Alemannia Aachen: I don't care that aachen is german team. They are in the second league and german national team had problems with Iceland. Aachen have to prove that they deserved the ticket to round one, I'm not sure they did.

Middlesbrough - Bank Ostrava: Middlesbrough (IIRC) first time in UC, and Chech champions should not be under-estimated.

PAOK - Alkmaar: Maybe it is just because I saw PAOK play and wasn't impressed.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Omero
Date: 29-08-2004, 05:48
I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT P-T AND HAIFA.

I tink that p-t just had a bad day in cyprus, you must remember that they are playing without a player from africa, who will play this round, Prince Daya (or how his name is). i think that p-t is a good team, but they don't have a lot of fans, so it's not so good, to not have a big crowd that will support you. i think that here p-t can win, but in holland they will lose, for sure.

about haifa - fnipro. i don't know so much about the ukranian, but one think i do know, and that haifa much better team, who's hungry for succses in the uefa cup, beacose of the elimination against rosenbourg.

about newcastle - sahknin...i think that in that game should come here in israel somthing between 20 up to 40,000 people. not every day newcastle comes here : )

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: mickey
Date: 29-08-2004, 12:54
to Zibir: try
http://www.oaza.co.yu/sport/delije/
or just
www.delije.net
for Red Star supporters forums and info.

About draw, hmmm, well, it will be very hard for such a young team after this loss from PSV to regain confidence, let's see tonight against Zemun, it looks like Zigic won't play again and that is big blow. I'm sad because team with great history like Red Star is now depending on one player and for years is selling players instead building a strong team - pepole from Russia and Ukraine surely know that Vidic and Lalatovic left RS in last year or so, Mladenovic (Rangers) left also, not to go further back. All those players could easily beat PSV, but now we are scared of some (nothing personal) Zenit. Sad. Though draw, I hope we'll go through just to be able to play some more games in Europe.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Zibir
Date: 29-08-2004, 15:42
2 Dneprchemp

, CIS

2 ivcotto
Is it a pessimism or simple interest?

2 kondor
FC Zenit have a problem, when play against the large public, but I assure, that in St. Petersburg FK Crvena Zvezda will have not less problems. Zeint is the most popular club in Russia.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: SHEV
Date: 29-08-2004, 20:08
Omer: Maccabi Haifa - Dnipro - 70/30
-----------------------------------------------
Ha Maccabi is not considered as real opponent here, but I used to give them 50% chances, because of tollerance

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Dneprchemp
Date: 29-08-2004, 21:00
I'am changing Makkabi - Dnipro from 50/50 Dnipro to 65/35 Makkabi

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: SHEV
Date: 29-08-2004, 22:41
Because of todays match?

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: SHEV
Date: 29-08-2004, 22:43
90-10 ? . ?

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: telephunk
Date: 30-08-2004, 00:19
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 90/10

Real Zaragoza,the first leader of Primera division.

Today Zaragoza beat to Getafe 3-1.

And Zaragoza beat to Valencia in Mestalla 1-3 in Supercup.

To score 3 goals in Mestall is an impossible mission.And Real Zaragoza do it.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: krdeluxe
Date: 30-08-2004, 17:47
1. Grazer AK PFC Litex Lovech 55/45
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 90/10
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 25/75
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 15/85
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 55/45
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 40/60
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 15/85
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 45/55
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 90/10
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 80/20
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 70/30
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 90/10
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 60/40
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 80/20
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 60/40
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 45/55
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 95/5
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 55/45
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 25/75
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 15/85
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 25/75
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 75/25
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 30/70
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 35/65
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 65/35
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 40/60
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 20/80
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 30/70
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 30/70
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 75/25
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 80/20
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 15/85
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 45/55
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 80/20
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 45/55
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 25/75
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 75/25
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 25/75
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 75/25
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 85/15

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Dneprchemp
Date: 30-08-2004, 22:44
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Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: SHEV
Date: 30-08-2004, 23:40
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Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: porto-1978
Date: 31-08-2004, 04:46
1. Grazer AK PFC Litex Lovech 50/50
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 80/20
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 30/70
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 35/65
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 40/60
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 50/50
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 30/70
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 55/45
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 70/30
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 60/40
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 60/40
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 80/20
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 50/50
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 70/30
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 60/40
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 45/55
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 75/25
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 55/45
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 30/70
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 25/75
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 25/75
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 30/70
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 55/45
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 60/40
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 40/60
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 35/65
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 35/65
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 40/60
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 65/35
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 65/35
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 30/70
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 50/50
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 75/25
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 60/40
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 40/60
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 70/30
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 35/65
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 60/40
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 80/20

Id like to see Bnei Sakhnin progressing... quite dificult, Newcastle on the way.
About portuguese clubs, this is my list of them, by decreasing order of success probability: 1-Benfica; 2-Sporting; 3- Braga; 4- Martimo; 5- Nacional. I believe the first three will progress. About Madeira clubs (you never know but) it would be a surprise (specially Nacional, as Martimo is usualy more regular).
Best draws: Grazer - Litex; Austria - Legia; Partizan - D. Bucaresti; Steaua - CSKA Sofia; Millwall - Ferencvaros; Maccabi Haifa - Dnipro; Standard - Bochum; Middlesbrough - Banik Ostrava; Crvena Zvezda - Zenit.
Weakest pair: Ventspils&AmicaWronki; Hafnarfjrdur&Aachen. There will be desqualified teams better than the winners of those duels. Just normal.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Kronsky
Date: 31-08-2004, 11:38
Porto,

Do You really think that Amica is THAT bad? On the same or higher level than Utrech or Djurgrden I think.
Have You seen Amica playing this year? Poor results so far but on their way. Lech Poznan, that lost to Terek in UCQ2 (0-1, 0-1)have just lost to Amica at home 0-4 whitch shows that Amica start to play on their level. Against Honved, they missed so many chances at home and in Hungary they were blocked by their unexperience, couse its young tema with 2-3 older (and good) players. There is lot of talemt in Amica so with little luck, they could surprise. But then, with poor experiens in international games, they could suddenly loose to Ventspils, even if they have much, much better team.

regards

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Emperor
Date: 31-08-2004, 12:52
Amica isn't sa weak as you think ! They were nearly to eliminated spanish Malaga 2 years ago. They eliminated Servette Geneva (which one year before was in 1/8 of UC), Brodby and a few other teams. However they are unexperienced because they are probably the youngest team in whole UEFA Cup. There are 5-6 players in first squad which are 21 or younger!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: galatasaray
Date: 31-08-2004, 13:30
1. Grazer AK - PFC Litex Lovech 60/40
2. S.S. Lazio - FC Metalurh Donetsk 90/10
3. FK Bod/Glimt - Besiktas JK 20/80
4. Shelbourne - FC Lille OSC 30/70
5. Heart of Midlothian FC - SC Braga 45/55
6. FK Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa 55/45
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica - SL Benfica 30/70
8. FK Partizan - FC Dinamo Bucuresti 55/45
9. Parma FC - NK Maribor 70/30
10. Real Zaragoza SK - Sigma Olomouc 65/35
11. Sporting Club de Portugal - SK Rapid Wien 65/35
12. Newcastle United - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin 90/10
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia 55/45
14. Wisla Krakw FC - Dinamo Tbilisi 70/30
15. FC Utrecht - Djurgrdens IF 45/55
16. Millwall FC - Ferencvrosi TC 50/50
17. FC Schalke 04 - FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 80/20
18. Maccabi Haifa FC - FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 55/45
19. FC Terek Grozny - FC Basel 1893 30/70
20. Odd Grenland - Feyenoord 25/75
21. Aalborg BK - AJ Auxerre 25/75
22. Sevilla FC - CD Nacional 70/30
23. NK Gorica - AEK Athens 30/70
24. R. Standard de Lige - VfL Bochum 1848 55/45
25. FK Crvena Zvezda - FC Zenit St. Peterburg 60/40
26. Trabzonspor - Athletic Club Bilbao 60/40
27. jpesti TE - VfB Stuttgart 35/65
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC - SC Heerenveen 35/65
29. Panionios NFC - Udinese Calcio 40/60
30. PFC Levski Sofia - KSK Beveren 60/40
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb - IF Elfsborg 60/40
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur - TSV Alemannia Aachen 40/60
33. Middlesbrough FC - FC Bank Ostrava 60/40
34. Club Brugge KV - LB Chteauroux 70/30
35. PAOK FC - AZ Alkmaar 60/40
36. FK Ventspils - KS Amica Wronki 45/55
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard - Stabk IF 65/35
38. Egaleo FC - Genlerbirligi SK 25/75
39. Rangers FC - CS Martimo 60/40
40. Villarreal CF - Hammarby 75/25

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: alexx
Date: 31-08-2004, 14:23
1. Grazer AK - PFC Litex Lovech 45/55
2. S.S. Lazio - FC Metalurh Donetsk 80/20
3. FK Bod/Glimt - Besiktas JK 30/70
4. Shelbourne - FC Lille OSC 15/85
5. Heart of Midlothian FC - SC Braga 35/65
6. FK Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa 55/45
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica - SL Benfica 35/65
8. FK Partizan - FC Dinamo Bucuresti 65/35
9. Parma FC - NK Maribor 85/15
10. Real Zaragoza SK - Sigma Olomouc 70/30
11. Sporting Club de Portugal - SK Rapid Wien 60/40
12. Newcastle United - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin 85/15
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia 50/50*
14. Wisla Krakw FC - Dinamo Tbilisi 75/25
15. FC Utrecht - Djurgrdens IF 50/50*
16. Millwall FC - Ferencvrosi TC 55/45
17. FC Schalke 04 - FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 85/15
18. Maccabi Haifa FC - FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 45/55
19. FC Terek Grozny - FC Basel 1893 55/45
20. Odd Grenland - Feyenoord 15/85
21. Aalborg BK - AJ Auxerre 30/70
22. Sevilla FC - CD Nacional 70/30
23. NK Gorica - AEK Athens 20/80
24. R. Standard de Lige - VfL Bochum 1848 50*/50
25. FK Crvena Zvezda - FC Zenit St. Peterburg 55/45
26. Trabzonspor - Athletic Club Bilbao 50/50*
27. jpesti TE - VfB Stuttgart 35/65
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC - SC Heerenveen 35/65
29. Panionios NFC - Udinese Calcio 40/60
30. PFC Levski Sofia - KSK Beveren 50/50*
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb - IF Elfsborg 65/35
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur - TSV Alemannia Aachen 35/55
33. Middlesbrough FC - FC Bank Ostrava 60/40
34. Club Brugge KV - LB Chteauroux 65/35
35. PAOK FC - AZ Alkmaar 55/45
36. FK Ventspils - KS Amica Wronki 35/65
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard - Stabk IF 65/35
38. Egaleo FC - Genlerbirligi SK 30/70
39. Rangers FC - CS Martimo 65/35
40. Villarreal CF - Hammarby 75/25

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Pawel18
Date: 31-08-2004, 14:35
Amica have very much luck that will play witch Ventspils but are more weakest pair than amica's, for example: FC Utrecht - Djurgarden Sztokholm, Millwall -Ferencvaros Budapeszt and FH Hafnarfjoerdur - Aachen.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: porto-1978
Date: 31-08-2004, 16:13
OK, maybe im wrong about Amicas strenght. Theyve eleminated Honved, that was one of the best unseeded teams in UC-Q2...
But i think the pairs Utrecht-Djurgarden and Millwall-Ferencvaros are a bit stronger than Amica-Ventspils. Not only because of Amica but more because of Ventspils. I would not say the same thing about, lets say, Amica-Djugardens or Feyenoord-Ventspils, as examples... But Hafnarfjoerdur-Aachen is maybe even less strong. I see more probabilities on Aachen progress than in Bochum or Standard Liege and i believe the last two teams are stronger than Aachen. All theories, of course.
Regards!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Pawel18
Date: 31-08-2004, 16:27
1. Grazer AK - PFC Litex Lovech 65/35
2. S.S. Lazio - FC Metalurh Donetsk 85/15
3. FK Bod/Glimt - Besiktas JK 30/70
4. Shelbourne - FC Lille OSC 30/70
5. Heart of Midlothian FC - SC Braga 50/50
6. FK Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa 50/50
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica - SL Benfica 10/90
8. FK Partizan - FC Dinamo Bucuresti 50/50
9. Parma FC - NK Maribor 90/10
10. Real Zaragoza SK - Sigma Olomouc 70/30
11. Sporting Club de Portugal - SK Rapid Wien 70/30
12. Newcastle United - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin 85/15
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia 60/40
14. Wisla Krakw FC - Dinamo Tbilisi 90/10
15. FC Utrecht - Djurgrdens IF 40/60
16. Millwall FC - Ferencvrosi TC 45/55
17. FC Schalke 04 - FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 85/15
18. Maccabi Haifa FC - FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 50/50
19. FC Terek Grozny - FC Basel 1893 50/50
20. Odd Grenland - Feyenoord 10/90
21. Aalborg BK - AJ Auxerre 30/70
22. Sevilla FC - CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica - AEK Athens 20/80
24. R. Standard de Lige - VfL Bochum 1848 40/60
25. FK Crvena Zvezda - FC Zenit St. Peterburg 50/50
26. Trabzonspor - Athletic Club Bilbao 50/50
27. jpesti TE - VfB Stuttgart 20/80
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC - SC Heerenveen 35/65
29. Panionios NFC - Udinese Calcio 50/50
30. PFC Levski Sofia - KSK Beveren 50/50
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb - IF Elfsborg 70/30
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur - TSV Alemannia Aachen 50/50
33. Middlesbrough FC - FC Bank Ostrava 65/35
34. Club Brugge KV - LB Chteauroux 75/25
35. PAOK FC - AZ Alkmaar 50/50
36. FK Ventspils - KS Amica Wronki 30/70
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard - Stabk IF 65/35
38. Egaleo FC - Genlerbirligi SK 50/50
39. Rangers FC - CS Martimo 60/40
40. Villarreal CF - Hammarby 80/20

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Emperor
Date: 31-08-2004, 17:19
Ventspils also isn't so weak team They eliminated Brondby which went to 3rd round of UC last year eliminating Schalke.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: manecar
Date: 31-08-2004, 17:45
1. Grazer AK - PFC Litex Lovech 55/45
2. S.S. Lazio - FC Metalurh Donetsk 85/15
3. FK Bod/Glimt - Besiktas JK 30/70
4. Shelbourne - FC Lille OSC 10/90
5. Heart of Midlothian FC - SC Braga 45/55
6. FK Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa 50/50
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica - SL Benfica 10/90
8. FK Partizan - FC Dinamo Bucuresti 60/40
9. Parma FC - NK Maribor 99/1
10. Real Zaragoza SK - Sigma Olomouc 70/30
11. Sporting Club de Portugal - SK Rapid Wien 70/30
12. Newcastle United - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin 95/5
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia 60/40
14. Wisla Krakw FC - Dinamo Tbilisi 80/20
15. FC Utrecht - Djurgrdens IF 50/50
16. Millwall FC - Ferencvrosi TC 55/45
17. FC Schalke 04 - FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 85/15
18. Maccabi Haifa FC - FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 50/50
19. FC Terek Grozny - FC Basel 1893 50/50
20. Odd Grenland - Feyenoord 10/90
21. Aalborg BK - AJ Auxerre 30/70
22. Sevilla FC - CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica - AEK Athens 20/80
24. R. Standard de Lige - VfL Bochum 1848 40/60
25. FK Crvena Zvezda - FC Zenit St. Peterburg 50/50
26. Trabzonspor - Athletic Club Bilbao 50/50
27. jpesti TE - VfB Stuttgart 20/80
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC - SC Heerenveen 30/70
29. Panionios NFC - Udinese Calcio 45/55
30. PFC Levski Sofia - KSK Beveren 55/45
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb - IF Elfsborg 70/30
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur - TSV Alemannia Aachen 40/60
33. Middlesbrough FC - FC Bank Ostrava 65/35
34. Club Brugge KV - LB Chteauroux 75/25
35. PAOK FC - AZ Alkmaar 50/50
36. FK Ventspils - KS Amica Wronki 30/70
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard - Stabk IF 65/35
38. Egaleo FC - Genlerbirligi SK 45/55
39. Rangers FC - CS Martimo 60/40
40. Villarreal CF - Hammarby 80/20

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Ricardo
Date: 03-09-2004, 10:19
1. Grazer AK - PFC Litex Lovech 55/45
2. S.S. Lazio - FC Metalurh Donetsk 95/5
3. FK Bod/Glimt - Besiktas JK 10/90
4. Shelbourne - FC Lille OSC 10/90
5. Heart of Midlothian FC - SC Braga 35/65
6. FK Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa 45/55
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica - SL Benfica 10/90
8. FK Partizan - FC Dinamo Bucuresti 55/45
9. Parma FC - NK Maribor 95/5
10. Real Zaragoza SK - Sigma Olomouc 95/5
11. Sporting Club de Portugal - SK Rapid Wien 65/35
12. Newcastle United - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin 85/15
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia 45/55
14. Wisla Krakw FC - Dinamo Tbilisi 80/20
15. FC Utrecht - Djurgrdens IF 60/40
16. Millwall FC - Ferencvrosi TC 45/55
17. FC Schalke 04 - FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 90/10
18. Maccabi Haifa FC - FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 40/60
19. FC Terek Grozny - FC Basel 1893 20/80
20. Odd Grenland - Feyenoord 10/90
21. Aalborg BK - AJ Auxerre 10/90
22. Sevilla FC - CD Nacional 65/35
23. NK Gorica - AEK Athens 25/75
24. R. Standard de Lige - VfL Bochum 1848 45/55
25. FK Crvena Zvezda - FC Zenit St. Peterburg 55/45
26. Trabzonspor - Athletic Club Bilbao 35/65
27. jpesti TE - VfB Stuttgart 10/90
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC - SC Heerenveen 30/70
29. Panionios NFC - Udinese Calcio 15/85
30. PFC Levski Sofia - KSK Beveren 45/55
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb - IF Elfsborg 55/45
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur - TSV Alemannia Aachen 45/55
33. Middlesbrough FC - FC Bank Ostrava 90/10
34. Club Brugge KV - LB Chteauroux 80/20
35. PAOK FC - AZ Alkmaar 60/40
36. FK Ventspils - KS Amica Wronki 30/70
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard - Stabk IF 70/30
38. Egaleo FC - Genlerbirligi SK 25/75
39. Rangers FC - CS Martimo 55/45
40. Villarreal CF - Hammarby 90/10

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Ricardo
Date: 03-09-2004, 10:28
And that makes, after 18 predictions, the following averages:
1	Grazer AK		PFC Litex Lovech		53.28	46.72
2 S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 76.67 22.50
3 FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 25.61 73.83
4 Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 25.06 75.50
5 Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 43.94 55.78
6 FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 53.39 47.72
7 FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 22.00 76.61
8 FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 57.44 43.94
9 Parma FC NK Maribor 80.94 19.33
10 Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 68.56 32.28
11 Sporting Club de Portugal SK Rapid Wien 61.44 38.28
12 Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 83.56 17.28
13 FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 50.56 49.44
14 Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 70.83 29.44
15 FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 56.39 43.89
16 Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 48.89 52.78
17 FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 81.61 19.22
18 Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 52.17 47.28
19 FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 35.83 63.89
20 Odd Grenland Feyenoord 20.61 78.56
21 Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 26.94 72.78
22 Sevilla FC CD Nacional 67.44 33.67
23 NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 30.06 69.11
24 R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 46.67 52.78
25 FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 53.00 48.11
26 Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 43.67 54.39
27 jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 28.89 70.00
28 Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 35.83 63.33
29 Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 31.11 68.89
30 PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 61.83 38.17
31 NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 63.28 37.56
32 FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 39.11 61.44
33 Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 61.00 39.28
34 Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 72.17 28.67
35 PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 56.89 43.67
36 FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 35.06 64.11
37 FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 68.89 31.94
38 Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 33.33 65.83
39 Rangers FC CS Martimo 60.00 39.72
40 Villarreal CF Hammarby 76.11 23.89

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Ricardo
Date: 03-09-2004, 10:37
Let's try it again:
1	Grazer AK - PFC Litex Lovech                    53.28	46.72
2 S.S. Lazio - FC Metalurh Donetsk 76.67 22.50
3 FK Bod/Glimt - Besiktas JK 25.61 73.83
4 Shelbourne FC - Lille OSC 25.06 75.50
5 Heart of Midlothian FC - SC Braga 43.94 55.78
6 FK Austria Wien - Legia Warszawa 53.39 47.72
7 FK Dukla Banks Bystrica - SL Benfica 22.00 76.61
8 FK Partizan - FC Dinamo Bucuresti 57.44 43.94
9 Parma FC - NK Maribor 80.94 19.33
10 Real Zaragoza - SK Sigma Olomouc 68.56 32.28
11 Sporting Club de Portugal - SK Rapid Wien 61.44 38.28
12 Newcastle United FC - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 83.56 17.28
13 FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia 50.56 49.44
14 Wisla Krakw - FC Dinamo Tbilisi 70.83 29.44
15 FC Utrecht - Djurgrdens IF 56.39 43.89
16 Millwall FC - Ferencvrosi TC 48.89 52.78
17 FC Schalke 04 - FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 81.61 19.22
18 Maccabi Haifa FC - FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 52.17 47.28
19 FC Terek Grozny - FC Basel 1893 35.83 63.89
20 Odd Grenland - Feyenoord 20.61 78.56
21 Aalborg BK - AJ Auxerre 26.94 72.78
22 Sevilla FC - CD Nacional 67.44 33.67
23 NK Gorica - AEK Athens FC 30.06 69.11
24 R. Standard de Lige - VfL Bochum 1848 46.67 52.78
25 FK Crvena Zvezda - FC Zenit St. Peterburg 53.00 48.11
26 Trabzonspor - Athletic Club Bilbao 43.67 54.39
27 jpesti TE - VfB Stuttgart 28.89 70.00
28 Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC - SC Heerenveen 35.83 63.33
29 Panionios NFC - Udinese Calcio 31.11 68.89
30 PFC Levski Sofia - KSK Beveren 61.83 38.17
31 NK Dinamo Zagreb - IF Elfsborg 63.28 37.56
32 FH Hafnarfjrdur - TSV Alemannia Aachen 39.11 61.44
33 Middlesbrough FC - FC Bank Ostrava 61.00 39.28
34 Club Brugge KV - LB Chteauroux 72.17 28.67
35 PAOK FC - AZ Alkmaar 56.89 43.67
36 FK Ventspils - KS Amica Wronki 35.06 64.11
37 FC Sochaux-Montbliard - Stabk IF 68.89 31.94
38 Egaleo FC - Genlerbirligi SK 33.33 65.83
39 Rangers FC - CS Martimo 60.00 39.72
40 Villarreal CF - Hammarby 76.11 23.89
I hope it is better.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: LevskiFan
Date: 03-09-2004, 10:46
haha,Ricardo,I guess that u r the only one who actually thinks that Levski has smaller chances than Beveren:D.or maybe u've made a mistake,but defenetly that's not possible in reality

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Ricardo
Date: 03-09-2004, 11:55
Well, I ment to say the same as Alexx: chances are quite even, but one has to advance, probably on away goals or after extra time, maybe even penalties. Beveren plays at home the second leg, so I gave them the advantage.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: EarlofBug
Date: 03-09-2004, 18:00
1. Grazer AK PFC Litex Lovech 40/60
2. S.S. Lazio FC Metalurh Donetsk 90/10
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK 10/90
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC 10/90
5. Heart of Midlothian FC SC Braga 65/35
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa 40/60
7. FK Dukla Banks Bystrica SL Benfica 30/70
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti 55/45
9. Parma FC NK Maribor 90/10
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc 60/40
11. Sporting Club de PortugalSK Rapid Wien 60/40
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC 90/10
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia 70/30
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi 90/10
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF 55/45
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC 15/85
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs 90/10
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 65/35
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 20/80
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord 10/90
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre 10/90
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional 75/25
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC 15/85
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 60/40
25. FK Crvena Zvezda FC Zenit St. Peterburg 50/50
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao 40/60
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart 40/60
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC SC Heerenveen 30/70
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio 40/60
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren 80/20
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg 85/15
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen 75/25
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava 30/70
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux 80/20
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar 70/30
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki 20/80
37. FC Sochaux-Montbliard Stabk IF 85/15
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK 20/80
39. Rangers FC CS Martimo 70/30
40. Villarreal CF Hammarby 90/10

I predict only 4-6 unseeded teams will beat seeded ones.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: EarlofBug
Date: 03-09-2004, 18:12
After looking in Ricardo's averages list, the most interesting (balanced) game to look for is FC Steaua Bucuresti - PFC CSKA Sofia. It's logical
The most one-sided predicted game is Newcastle United FC - Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: LevskiFan
Date: 04-09-2004, 00:25
Yeah I guess so too!I really hope that CSKA will advance though!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Osirius
Date: 16-09-2004, 07:43
2 Dneprchemp and SHEV
, . , .. ( ). .
2 Kondor.I respect Serbia,serbian football and so on,but my opinion that Zenit has more chances than RED STAR wish you luck with other opponents)).
2 Alexx
As i got you are the only who thinks that chances of Terek are higher than Basel)),whould be nice if it so,Basel is good and Terek will fight it's fore sure.

Maccabi - Dnepr 45/55
Terek - Basel 45/55
Zenit - Red Star 55/45

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: 1987on
Date: 16-09-2004, 11:49
Wisa Legia Amica 100% winers

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Kronsky
Date: 16-09-2004, 12:51
Ricardo,

Thx for the coverage of predictions. Well done!

And soon we will know how good experts we all are...

Best regards
Kronsky

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Kronsky
Date: 16-09-2004, 12:54
...and mathematicly, we should then expect about 12-14 surprises...

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: NWSC
Date: 16-09-2004, 12:54
Only for the 1st leg (+ home team win, = drown, - home team lose):
1. GAK PFC Litex Lovech +
2. FC Metalurh Donetsk S.S. Lazio -
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK -
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC -
5. Heart of Midlothian SC Braga +
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa +
7. FK Dukla Benfica -
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti +
9. Parma FC NK Maribor +
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc +
11. Sporting Club Rapid Wien =
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC +
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia =
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi -
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF +
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC -
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs +
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk +
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 +
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord -
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre -
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional +
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC =
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 -
25. FC Zenit FK Crvena Zvezda +
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao -
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart -
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva Heerenveen =
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio -
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren =
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg =
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen -
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava +
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux =
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar +
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki =
37. FC Sochaux-Mont Stabk IF +
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK -
39. CS Martimo Rangers FC -
40. Hammarby Villarreal -

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Lyonnais
Date: 16-09-2004, 14:50
My predictions (for qualification to the next round)

1. GAK PFC - Litex Lovech > Grazer AK
2. FC Metalurh Donetsk S.S. Lazio > Lazio Rome
3. FK Bod/Glimt Besiktas JK > Besiktas Istanbul
4. Shelbourne FC Lille OSC > Lille OSC
5. Heart of Midlothian SC Braga > Hearts of Midlothian
6. FK Austria Wien Legia Warszawa > Liega Varsovie
7. FK Dukla Benfica > Benfica Lisbonne
8. FK Partizan FC Dinamo Bucuresti > Partizan Belgrade
9. Parma FC NK Maribor > Parme AC
10. Real Zaragoza SK Sigma Olomouc > Sigma Olomouc
11. Sporting Club Rapid Wien > Sporting Lisbone
12. Newcastle United FC Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC > Newcastle United
13. FC Steaua Bucuresti PFC CSKA Sofia > Steaua Bucarest
14. Wisla Krakw FC Dinamo Tbilisi > Wisla Cracovie
15. FC Utrecht Djurgrdens IF > Djurgardens IF
16. Millwall FC Ferencvrosi TC > Ferencvaros Budapest
17. FC Schalke 04 FHK Liepajas Metalurgs > Schalke 04
18. Maccabi Haifa FC FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk > Maccabi Haifa
19. FC Terek Grozny FC Basel 1893 > FC Bale
20. Odd Grenland Feyenoord > Feyenoord Rotterdam
21. Aalborg BK AJ Auxerre > AJ Auxerre
22. Sevilla FC CD Nacional > FC Seville
23. NK Gorica AEK Athens FC > AEK Athenes
24. R. Standard de Lige VfL Bochum 1848 > Standard Liege
25. FC Zenit FK Crvena Zvezda > Etoile Rouge Belgrade
26. Trabzonspor Athletic Club Bilbao > Trabzonspor
27. jpesti TE VfB Stuttgart > VFB Stuttgart
28. Maccabi Petach-Tikva Heerenveen > SC Heerenveen
29. Panionios NFC Udinese Calcio > Udinese Calcio
30. PFC Levski Sofia KSK Beveren > Levski Sofia
31. NK Dinamo Zagreb IF Elfsborg > Dinamo Zagreb
32. FH Hafnarfjrdur TSV Alemannia Aachen > FH Hafnarfjrdur
33. Middlesbrough FC FC Bank Ostrava > Banik Ostrava
34. Club Brugge KV LB Chteauroux > FC Bruges
35. PAOK FC AZ Alkmaar > PAOK Salonique
36. FK Ventspils KS Amica Wronki > Amira Wroncki
37. FC Sochaux-Mont Stabk IF > FC Sochaux
38. Egaleo FC Genlerbirligi SK > Genlerbirligi Ankara
39. CS Martimo Rangers FC > Glasgow Rangers
40. Hammarby Villarreal > Villareal

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: mark
Date: 16-09-2004, 22:51
OK, so Sakhnin will not qualify to the next stage but they sure suprised new castle in their very agressive play in the second half (in the first they gave too much respect to the hosts). From what I saw and if I was seeking something to bet on, it would be that we will not see new castle in europe next year.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Ricardo
Date: 17-09-2004, 09:30
LevskiFan, what do you think now of the chances of Beveren?? still more chance for Levski?
There are more scores that ran against our predictions: Zenit-Red Star, PAOK-AZ. Let's see if they can be turned around in 2 weeks. It will be difficult

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: cattle_ripper
Date: 17-09-2004, 12:29
Levski - Beveren chances are now 50:50

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: vladyslavo
Date: 17-09-2004, 13:17
areksen (3rd reply),
heh, i guess Aliceag (2nd reply) was much closer on her predictions than you thought after all
=)

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: maymunata
Date: 18-09-2004, 14:27
I bet on 8 first UCR1 matches:
Austria - Legia 1
Wisla - Dinamo Tb 1
Sporting - Rapid 1
Odd - Feyenord 2
Utreht - Djurgorden 1
Partizan - Dinamo Bukuresti 1
Hafnarfjordur - Aachen X2
Levski - Beveren 1

I will never ever put my money on those blue calfs again.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Lunaris
Date: 18-09-2004, 15:27
so for all who gave Litex a better chance then GAK let's see how the game finished: 5:0 for GAK, still quite a good chance for Litex to advance ;-)

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: cattle_ripper
Date: 18-09-2004, 15:51
@ Lunaris,
beating a team 5:0 still doesn't necessarily mean that difference between the teams is that big.
Litex played 75 or 80 minutes with a player down, first goal conceded from penalty in the very 15th minute ... they just had a poor day. In fact, in this match happened the same thing as in their previous match in UC second leg of R1 when Litex crashed Zheleznicar 7:0. However, this time Litex taking the role of the Bosnian team.
Neither Litex is that much better than Zeleznicar, nor GAK is so superior compared to the bulgarian team.
Such things just happen. If they forget about the result of the first match and just try to give their best I can see them win in the second leg somewhere around 2:0. Austrians are no big deal, nothing special to be afraid of. And 2 points for the Bulgarian coef. would be nice.

@maymunata,
next time when you are in doubt whether to put some money on them, you should consider the enormous eurolet_ski "success" in european cups matches

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: areksen
Date: 18-09-2004, 16:17
to: Aliceag
&
to: vladyslavo


If any ONE of these underdogs actually advances through to the group stage, I will publicly, on this forum, apologize and give you all due respect, because i would never put money on these teams!!

regards

9. Parma FC v NK Maribor 50/50 Maribor on penalties
14. Wisla Krakw v FC Dinamo Tbilisi 40/60 Dinamo
22. Sevilla FC v CD Nacional 50/50 Nacional on away goals
39. Rangers FC v CS Martimo 50/50 Martimo on away goals

ps almost all of these teams, that you picked, have a chance to beat their "stronger" rivals... which will make it an exciting return round!!

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Emperor
Date: 18-09-2004, 19:01
I don't like making predictions about second leg. You know only the result and nothing about the game and give chences... for example Areksen says 60/40 for Dinamo but he did't watch the game and his prediction base only on a result. Losing 3-4 is quite a good result before a match at home but game of Dinamo wasn't good enough to have chances for eliminating Wisla. They scored 3 goals but 2 of them was stupid own goals of Wisla players. Despite it Wisla was playing the biggest shit in this season in 1st half. Why? They underestimated Dinamo. They were losing 0-2 to 60 minute and in 4 minutes they were able to score 3goals. I don't think they will underestimate Dinamo again.

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: areksen
Date: 20-09-2004, 22:32
no no no Emperor: Those predictions are not mine!

I was just pasting what another person posted as his/hers predictions for the 1st round and I was saying that if one of his/hers predictions will come true i would apoligize for making fun of them earlier!!!


I know that Dinamo's gaals were scored on deflections off defenders(I live in USA but get my Wisla goals from --> http://www.wisla-multi.com -->Jackes is fast on placing them on the net)

I also know that if Wisla would have not underestimated the Georgian team they would have won 4-0 !!!



regards
pozdro

Re: your predictions about 1st round UEFA CUP
Author: Aliceag
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:36
Areksen: you are already owing me one! Dinamo Tblisi went trough!