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Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 16:34
SOON is very important game for the 15th place!!!
Controversary ONE,many opinions about it.So is it possible for the only left georgian team to beat polish DISASTER.ALL georgian teams are out cause of polish.Does anybody waits for a suprise???

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:47
Osirius. See my answer on the 15th palce battle topic

Best regards

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:48
ok

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:49
It doesnt look as i expected. But I am still confident Wisla will go through quite easly. Lets wait for the second half.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:52
Last away match, few days ago, ended 7-1 to Wisla against middle team Zaglebie Lubin. Dinamo might be better but not THAT much better. But then agian, its another nerv and there is 40.000 georgians together with the president to watch the game.

I must admit that it make me nervouse...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:54
Wojtek,

Do You know where to follow the match live on internet? I tried with onet and wisla sites but it does not working. And I cant see the game on tv. How is outr team performing?

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:55
www.soccerstand.com

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:58
Kronsky I asked you a question on your topic 15,if you have ytime will you plz answer me HERE on this topic.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 17:58
Im on livescore. I know standings but I dont know what happend in the match. Who is getting closer to the goal...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:01
ok i already read it from your topic

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:01
Osirius,

I dont have access to tv, thats why I asket Wojtek to tell. Im wondering the same as You do...and Im getting slightly nervouse...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:02
We should stay on Your topic As i said...its getting spooky!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:02
So, so, man. I dont think we pass if we dont score. And we really havent good any oportunity to score yet! Hopefully, Wisla looks a little bit frasher at this stage and this might be crucial factor. But Dont expect sth better than close win for Wisla.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:06
Which team is closer to score? Definitely Dinamo. But I think it is still being controled by us.. I will send sth if things happen.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:07
If Dinamo scores first goal in 80th minute, then I think that we are out...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:09
good shoot by Zurawski. It is looking better after the braek.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:10
ok

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:14
great pass by Frankowski and Zienczuk could make it. It is looking like Wisla is on its way to score. Or I get heat.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:16
ok. my head is cooking!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:17
fuck, penalty for Dinamo and Baszczynski red card. !-0 for Dinamo

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:18
I mean 1-0 for dinamo and we are ten. Fuck it looks like we are in serious trouble.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:19
Guys I don't know even your feeling right now,your best team is on it's way to be out.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:21
Wisla is pressing on.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:21
Wisla is pressing on.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:23
It is not being effective what they do. They havent created any opportunity to score so far.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:24
Ok, guys. It looks like thats it. 2-0 for Dinamo.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:24
Wojtek,

We usually dont use those words "fuck" on this forum.

But I found a place on internet LIVE that I can follow the match.

I would say that a draw should be quite ok by now
Wisla plays good with 10 and with Kuzba soon on the playground, we shall see some goals for Wisla too. Dont worry.

Be happy

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:25
no words,I thought that it could happan like this,but certainly Wisla was faivorit.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:27
was penelty doubtless or like in Real -Roma ?

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:27
2-0?

Now it start to be little tricky. But then...Wisla can score 4-5 goals in 15 minuts...so we will see. I would still go for a draw...

Can You belive what will happend if Wisla does not qualify? It will be a revolution in Poland and maybee the end of Wisla...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:31
Its still 20 minuts left, and Kuzba is in...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:34
frankowski scores on 2-1. ten minutes to go

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:36
10 minutes to live for!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:36
YES!!!

10 minuts PLUS 2 or 3 on overtime...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:37
or 15th place is very hard to stay!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:38
Amica has started to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:42
Osirius,

Thats another topic!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:44
ok

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:44
post by zurawski. two minutes to go

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:46
one minutes to go and free kick for dinamo.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: slawo
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:47
dramat!!!!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:47
free kick and post. If wisla win it it will be luck of the year

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:48
4 minute is added.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:54
so that's it.Wisla is out

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: mark
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:56
Wow. Can anyone explain this result?

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: arti
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:57
That's it. I quit...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: blancjb15
Date: 30-09-2004, 18:58
To now, two upsets:
Aigaleo vs Genšlerbirligi and
Dinamo Tbilisi vs Wisla Krakow

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: maymunata
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:00
Re: which unseeded club will beat seeded club R1 ?
Author: maymunata
Date: 04-09-2004, 10:27 For sure one of them:
1. Austria - Legia
2. Sigma - Zaragoza
3. Dinamo Tb - Wisla
4. Dnipro - Macabi Haifa
5. Terek - Basel
6. Standart - Bochum
7. Zenit - Crvena zvezda
8. Trabzonspor - Bilbao
9. Hafnarf÷rdur - Aachen
10. PAOK - AZ

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:03
Well, it happend the best. Wisla is scoring a lot of goals in the league, but they dont play to well for the moment.

But still, Wisla team was build for CL and by loosing here, they will have this bad coefficient for next 5 years. I wonder what will happend to the team now...

Its a sad day for polish fotball

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: anita
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:03
I have read all the post and replies on this topic. What a thriller LIVE on berts forum!!

What a punch in the nose for Wisla! Hmmmm.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:07
I dont panic, it can happen. I liked Frankowskis goal.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:09
Anita,

that was a punch on the nose to polish fotball. Janas is wondering of inviting 9 Wisla players to the next squad...

Very sad, becouse Wisla could do very good in this edition later on. And they will now stay with lousy coefficient for next 5 years. And also, this will shock and shake hole nation, and maby also the coach...Budget might get lower, and so on, rolling on

That was MUCH more painfull than Valerenga...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: anita
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:10
Just outside of seeded place in CLQR3, and now being eliminated by ..ehh..what? Difference between success and tragedy sometimes marginal. You have my sympathy, Krakowians. Seems like the elimination of Slavia Praha in UCQR2 wasn't a flop after all.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:15
Tbilisi was always very strong on their own grown,for last 10 years they now have pretty good squad so this could end like it ended and it ended.As i predicted after first match 55/45 for Wisla.Now we can say that 45 was enough for georgian.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:15
I dont want to hear voices that Kasperczak should go. I still believe in that team. No player should go. Personally, I think we were cought in bad period by not that bad team as they had thrown out Slavia previously.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:19
Thx Anita,

If there will be raining in Norway tomorrow, that will be our tears from Krakow

Well, well...that was those 10%. But they should win more comfortable in Krakow. Down by 02- in 60 minutes, then scoring 4 goals and in the end loosing the one that in the end was THE decider...

Good luck to norwegian teams! You have now great chance of taking care of 15th place. But watch out for Russia!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:20
Yeh Yeh watch out

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: blancjb15
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:21
And it seems to be a bad day also for Israeli football.
Maccabi Petach-Tikvah 99 % out. And Maccabi Haifa is not sure to qualify...

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:21
There is a song on russian Sport channel
𡽽ŕŔň Ŕńˇ˛ - Russians are coming

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:23
anyway it was an interesting subject!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:26
Wojtek,

I dont see the improvement in Wisla team. There is no better players in Poland and the budget was increased this by more than 50% this year. The team was stronger than ever. They win 5-0, 7-1 in polish league. So what can they do more when they dont qualify to CL and now are out of UC and out of important money. And what will sponsors say about this!!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Aliceag
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:32
Like I predicted dinamo tblisi went trough.
I remember someone on another topic saying "If any of those teams go forward then I don't know nothing about football". Ok, someone doesn't know nothing about football

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:37
Alice in wonderland,

When I predicted 90-10, it made Wisla huge favorite, and as Anita wrote, there are not so many games that You predict a team to be such a favorit. BUT...were is still those 10%...and it happend tonight! Bu timing for Wisla, but fantastic for Dinamo T. Great evening for georgian fotball!!!

Best regards

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:53
Kronksy,
Wisla have no other option than putting its pieces together and go forward. If any good player goes another with similar abilities has to come. It just doesn`t make sense to me to sell Zurawski or Frankowski. If we have bad luck this time around why wont we have good luck next season? It always goes like that.
Wisla is stiil very good team from my point of view. It comes to my mind right now that maybe they couldnt focus on a third geaorgian team if they had beaten 8:2 the first one. And that is the reason. Even in the second leg thay had in the mind the 16 minutes 4:0 period of their first leg game.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 19:59
I wouldnt care that much of Wisla`s finances. I think it will be stable in spite of this great disappointment. I didnt hear anything like it could mean a dissaster for Wisla`s finances if they were thrown out in Geaorgia.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Sanibel
Date: 30-09-2004, 20:08
OK Polish guys. I read so many confident articles about easy Wisla┤s promotion. But unfortunately it didn┤t happen. Slavia had bad luck one round ago. Well Amica will go through and Legia? Who knows....

optimistic guy
Author: wojtek
Date: 30-09-2004, 20:14
I hope this loss can be cause of chages but for the better not for the worse. I just think so knowing wislas owners style. He will not give up. And our coefficient will be the same naxt season as this one. So we still have some chances to be seeded in QCL3.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: TimJohnson
Date: 30-09-2004, 22:28
After seeing WIT - Wisla and Dinamo-BATE in the earlier CL and UEFA Cup I must admit to being surprised at todays result.

Wisla were excellant against WIT while the Dinamo -BATE game was poor in comparison. Good luck to Dinamo in the Group stage

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osiris
Date: 01-10-2004, 09:07
Hi, guys.
As i predicted before the result of Dinamo Tbilisi -Wisla was unpredictable.
But let me say a few words. Georgia has a rather low raiting but...
In the soviet past it was a strong team in 1981 they won European Cup of Cups. After the break of the USSR Dinamo and Georgia were in crisis. Now there are some evidence of recovery.
In qualifying group for World Chempionship 2006 Georgia now is on the 1st place with 4 points together with Ukraine (behind them Greece, Turkey, Dunmark, Albania,Kazakhstan). They held a draw in Turkey which is not so simple. Georgian players are very good technickally but they lach phisikal strenth and organization (like Turkey was 10 years ago). Improuving these drawbacks they can be very competitive.
And Dinamo Tbilisi was allways a leader of Georgian football.
I think Dinamo will get some more points on the group stage.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Kronsky
Date: 01-10-2004, 09:15
Osiris,

Hopefully, Dinamo will get some points in GS, getting those from austrian and russian teams

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osiris
Date: 01-10-2004, 09:46
Hi, Kronsky,

Do you live in Krakiw or Warsaw or some other place in Poland?

Regards.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: vakho
Date: 01-10-2004, 09:55
Wow, what a live report! I would better check the forum instead of listening comment for the game on radio.

Indeed, really big success for Georgia on club level. Slavia Praha and Wisla are not easy at to walk through.
Especially after fiasko of WIT this summer 2:8 this sounds at rocket move forward.
This is unique situation since 96/97 when Georgian club
passed 2 rounds of any cup beating clubs from top 20.
(it was M÷lde and Torpedo M in 96/97 and get in last 32). In any case this year is one of the best in 11 years history.

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: Osirius
Date: 01-10-2004, 11:51
to Kronsky
Dinamo will nor play with russian teams.may be in the Final.Than i don't mind!!

Re: Tbilisi - Wisla
Author: wojtek
Date: 01-10-2004, 12:50
Tibilisi is definitely good team. If Amica (4th spot) will be pared up with Tibilisi (5th spot) there will be no more points for Poland.