This forum is read-only now. Please use Forum 2 for new posts
| xml | No replies possible in the archive |
| UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Marko_Bgd
Date: 22-06-2006, 03:38 Edited by: Marko_Bgd at: 22-06-2006, 03:41 | The draw will be held on Friday 12:00! Your predictions, your hopes... If there is anyone who is not sure which teams are seeded, you can take a look at: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedcl2006.html  And I hope that Red Star will not plat against Salzburg or Mlada Bolesav in second round of qualification. Any other opponent would be just fine, but those teams I've mentioned are capable of beating seeded teams and taking over their position as seeded in 3rd round. This will happen if they win on aggregate against Steaua, Dinamo Kyev or Levski. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Philipp
Date: 22-06-2006, 08:20 | i guess Salzburg is the horror draw for every seeded team  . |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: executor
Date: 22-06-2006, 08:42 | The media did it again!! They're saying the most dangerous teams for Steaua in QR2 are the champions of the Czech Republic (Mlada Boleslav) and the champions of Austria (SV Salzburg)  Speaking of the "fresh champions" of Austria  , they have Trappatoni and Matheus as their coaches, so I guess they really do mean business. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Philipp
Date: 22-06-2006, 08:47 | Salzburg is not the austrian champion, that's Austria Wien . and yes, Salzburg really want to enter the CL, i think they got around 15 millionen to spend for transfers this summer. the most prominent players that will play in Salzburg next season are croatia' captain Nico Kovac (Hertha Berlin), Johan Vonlanthen (PSV) and Karel Pitak (Slavia Prag captain). |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-06-2006, 08:56 | Boleslav is als no the champion of Czechia! Both( Bolelsav and Salszburg) are the numbers 2 of their league |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: executor
Date: 22-06-2006, 09:23 | Well, tell that to our press. I think they'll consider it "breaking news" |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: LSE
Date: 22-06-2006, 09:50 | 1st Round Siroki Brijeg - Dudelange 2nd Round Siroki Brijeg - København 3rd Round Siroki Brijeg - Arsenal London Siroki Brijeg ----> UEFA Cup 2nd Round Dinamo Zagreb - Birkirkara 3rd Round Dinamo Zagreb - Slovan Liberec Dinamo Zagreb ----> Group Stage |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: exile
Date: 22-06-2006, 10:16 | Hearts enter the Champions tournament for the 1st time since 1960. Their record is 1958-9 Standard Liege 1-5,2-1 1960-1 Benfica 1-2,0-3 (Benfica won the Cup this season) Top goalscorer Willie Bauld, 2. Bauld is the player who hit the bar for Scotland v England in 1950, the 0-1 result meaning Scotland didn't travel to the World Cup that year, owing to the Scottish FA not wishing to appear unless as British champions. Record attendance 39,000 v Standard I guess Hearts would want to avoid Salzburg, Boleslav, possibly Ruzomberok (remember Artmedia!). They "should" beat any of the others - but then again - MyPa have beaten 2 Scottish teams in the past, and FH have done this once. As usual, a few strong teams are in QR2 - Steua, Dynamo Kiev, Fenerbahce, Spartak, Levski. They should all go through - but most years produce a surprise result or two. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: neill
Date: 22-06-2006, 10:21 | exile, I'm a Hearts fan and I didn't know that fact about Willie Bauld, very interesting! I would like to echo previous posters in that Salzburg need to be avoided at all costs. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: hejazia
Date: 22-06-2006, 12:27 | Salzbourg is the horror for everyone. I am sure alot of teams in the 3rd round will have hell against this team. They have lots of money and serious ambitions. M.Boleslav come a close second, Czech teams are always difficult to play, especially in the second round preliminary round. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: maranton
Date: 22-06-2006, 13:31 | Does someone know if any tv channel will show the draw live? |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Marko_Bgd
Date: 22-06-2006, 14:00 | One more thing regarding Salzburg... They have just bought Milan Dudic from FC Red Star Belgrade and if you have seen last night's WC match CIV-SCG you have seen two amazing handball(or voleyball) moves by that player that produced two penalty kicks for CIV. And to be honest, I don't really believe that money is all you need in order to make a good team. Many new players, new coach... It may take a little time before it all starts working perfectly for them. Nevertheless, I hope that Red Star will avoid playing against Salzburg in 2nd round. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Addy_G
Date: 22-06-2006, 17:21 Edited by: Addy_G at: 22-06-2006, 17:21 | Even Sheriff Tiraspol isn`t a team that should be neglected. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Nick
Date: 22-06-2006, 18:11 | maranton: I guess the draw will be live only on uefa.com. You could follow it live also on the bulgarian radio "Gong" at http://www.radiogong.net/ but only in bulgarian and i guess they will concentrate on the 4 bulgarian teams only. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: maranton
Date: 22-06-2006, 18:22 | I heard Bulgaria is a beautiful country but I do not want to visit it in July as an Omonia supporter. Neither Romania. Does anybody else know for a tv chanel in any country showing the draw. I do not want to look in all the channels on the satellite disk. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: drvasko98
Date: 22-06-2006, 23:15 | maranton i want to avoid Omonia for bulgarian teams in 1st QR, but i feel you will travel to my country in July Omonia have played 4 time with our team in last 23 year - 1:3 final results, but we hadnt away win. I wont bet money for Loko Sf against Omonia |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: gluer
Date: 23-06-2006, 00:58 | In second qualifying round I think that Steaua can't be beaten... Don't forget that Steaua will play again after 7 months on home stadium Ghencea where is very hard for anyone to win. In last 2-3 years nobody beaten Steaua on Ghencea stadium. In QR3 there is only one team that can be equal with Steaua and that is Fiorentina. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Floridian
Date: 23-06-2006, 02:30 | That is only IF Fiorentina will be in QR3... |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: skivaz
Date: 23-06-2006, 03:21 Edited by: skivaz at: 23-06-2006, 03:33 | ...and Fiorentina will not be there....but another italian team can take the place... |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: executor
Date: 23-06-2006, 08:02 | @ gluer Except for the mighty Gloria Bistrita, Politehnica Iasi and FK Zeleznik . Actually they should be worried especially in QR2, because Steaua has more problems with small to medium teams and less with large ones. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: gluer
Date: 23-06-2006, 10:41 | @executor Maybe you are right But don't forget the determination of every little team that plays with Steaua. But now Steaua has alot of experience in Europe (30 matches in last 2 years), so it will be no difficult to reach the group stage. In the group stage we'll see the real value of Steaua. So, I can hardly wait a game Steaua-Barcelona or Steaua-Real Madrid.  |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Levski_Sofia
Date: 23-06-2006, 11:03 | Half of the the unseeded teams in the 3rd qualifying round can potentially beat Steaua so don't get too confident. And also Fiorentina are much better than you, not 50:50. About today's draw - avoid Salzburg, then get Valerenga in the 3rd round and the job is done |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: executor
Date: 23-06-2006, 11:34 Edited by: executor at: 23-06-2006, 11:34 | Norwegian opponent in QR3...hmmm... ...I know Steaua beat them a year ago, but Vaalerenga used a C-team (with 17,18 year-old players).Actually I don't fear Salzburg so much (I do want Steaua to qualify); teams with players who are together for many years and with lower budgets (they are "hungry") look more dangerous (Mlada Boleslav, Sheriff Tiraspol). Anyway Steaua shouldn't really have any troubles in QR2. Otherwise.... |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Giuseppe
Date: 23-06-2006, 11:42 Edited by: Giuseppe at: 23-06-2006, 12:22 | The only real threat is Fiorentina (if they will be in QR3). Most of the other teams are fair opponents, but if Steaua cathces a good day I think we'll go through. At this level there are no guarantees though. EDIT: second round=> Steaua - Linfield/Gorica. So far so good |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Philipp
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:22 | bad draw for FC Zürich! |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: executor
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:28 Edited by: executor at: 23-06-2006, 12:28 | Fenerbahce - Birkirkara/B36 --> Now, that's LUCK by the ton. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: bjkman1903
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:33 | Well, Fenerbahçe is a very lucky team.. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Marko_Bgd
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:33 Edited by: Marko_Bgd at: 23-06-2006, 12:34 | Cork City/Apolon Limasol vs. Red Star I believe that Red Star will play in QR3. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:33 | bottom 3 seeded meet top 3 unseeded...coincidence????( I believe so) |
| UCL first and second qualifying round draw results | |
| Author: I3illy
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:47 Edited by: I3illy at: 23-06-2006, 13:25 | UEFA Champions League: 2006/07 UEFA Champions League First qualifying round draw First leg: 11/12 July Second leg:18/19 July (yes, the date was wrong my mistake, now it's corect)1. KS Elbasani (ALB) vs FK Ekranas (LTU) 2. FC TVMK Tallinn (EST) vs FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL) 3. FHK Liepajas Metalurgs (LAT) vs FK Aktobe (KAZ) 4. Myllykosken Pallo-47 (FIN) vs The New Saints FC (WAL) 5. Cork City FC (IRL) vs Apollon Limassol FC (CYP) 6. FC Sioni Bolnisi (GEO) vs FK Baku (AZE) 7. F91 Dudelange (LUX) vs FK Rabotnicki (MKD) 8. FC Shakhtyor Soligorsk (BLS) vs NK iroki Brijeg (BIH) 9. Birkirkara FC (MLT) vs B36 Tórshavn (FAR) 10. Linfield FC (NIR) vs NK Gorica (SLO) 11. FC Pyunik (ARM) vs FC Sheriff (MOL) 2006/07 UEFA Champions League Second qualifying round draw First leg: 25/26 July Second leg: 1/2 August 1. Winner match 10 vs FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROU) 2. PFC Levski Sofia (BUL) vs Winner match 6 3. FC Zürich (SUI) vs SV Austria Salzburg (AUT) 4. Djurgårdens IF (SWE) vs MFK Ruomberok (SVK) 5. Debreceni VSC (HUN) vs Winner of match 7 6. Winner of match 5 vs FK Crvena Zvezda (SCG) 7. Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) vs Winner of match 9 8. FK Mladá Boleslav (CZE) vs Vålerenga IF (NOR) 9. Winner of match 11 vs FC Spartak Moskva (RUS) 10. Winner of match 3 vs FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) 11. Winner of match 2 vs Legia Warszawa (POL) 12. FC København (DEN) vs Winner of match 4 13. Winner of match 1 vs NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 14. Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO) vs Winner of match 8 |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: skivaz
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:49 | obviously you wrote the wrong leg dates... the second leg of first round will be what you wrote as the first leg of the second round... not a big problem we can all understand |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: hejazia
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:51 | Well i think we can safely say that there wont be any swiss teams in the CL next year. That was really the one team Zurich did not want to fall on. They are going to have a field day. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:51 | No, it just has to be July. Second leg first round is 18/19 July |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Giuseppe
Date: 23-06-2006, 12:56 | The correct dates are: 11/12 July and 18/19 July for the first qualifying round and 25/26 July and 1/2 August for the second qualifying round, according to UEFA.com |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: drvasko98
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:13 | Exellent draw for Levski and for bulgarians (Zurich-Zalzburg)- 16 th place is near |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Philipp
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:15 | i guess Valeranaga and Zürich are the big loser of this draw. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:17 Edited by: Forza-AZ at: 23-06-2006, 13:17 | On Belgian teletext is said that the draw has already been made for UEFA-cup QR1 and that Roeselare plays Makedonija. I think they just saw the list of seeded and unseeded teams on uefa.com and thought that this are already the fixtures. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:19 | As i said before. The bottom 3 seeded meet the top 3 unseeded. It sounds quite fair, though the 3 seeded teams would have wished for some more luck with the draw. The big loser will be one of the other seeded team that does not manage to get to Q3 |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:22 | Forza: typical Belgium?? |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Gabi
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:26 | Forza-AZ, I agree. But if Roselare will play Makedonija... |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:30 | They removed the news already |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: badgerboy
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:39 | So, who is most likely to provide the early surprises of the new European season? I would say the three known matches in R2 should be fairly tight - not a major shock whoever wins. But in all seven seasons since the current qualifying format began at least one team (sometimes two) has made it from QR1 to QR3. Who is most likely to do so this year? The only team in the 1st round draw to have done so before is NK Gorica - who knocked out FC Kobenhavn in the 2004-05 season.They have drawn the highest seed in QR2 though. Taking countries as opposed to actual clubs. A Cypriot team has reached QR3 three times in the period (starting in QR2 once). Only one notable victory over obviously superior (on paper) opposition as Famagusta put Trabzonspor out last year. Red Star may remember a narrow triumph over Omonia Nicosia back in 2001 too. Other obvious shocks at this stage historically by country. A Latvian team beat a Romanian team in 1999-2000, a Bosnian team beat a Norweigien one in 2002-03, Macedonia beat Russia in 2003-04, Ireland beat Croatia in 2004-05. Without knowing too much about the relative strengths of the teams perhaps FC Kobenhavn look the most vulnerable. They have fallen at this stage before and their likely opponents Mypa did put Dundee United out of last season's UEFA Cup. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:44 Edited by: Ricardo at: 23-06-2006, 13:48 | Battle for top-10 spot already starts in Q1: Hibernian- Dinamo Boekarest edit: Sorry I forgot the smilies |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: executor
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:45 Edited by: executor at: 23-06-2006, 13:46 | No, Ricardo! Hibernian is from Malta!!! Typical UEFA  EDIT: So a double encounter Romania-Malta! Lot of beaches there....hmmm.... |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:46 Edited by: Forza-AZ at: 23-06-2006, 13:48 | They have a Scottish flag with Hibernians from Malta on uefa.com  And they in fact drew the 2 Cyprus clubs together and then moved Omonia as the away team in the next tie. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: badgerboy
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:47 | UEFA Cup draw: Southern-Med section: Tirana v Varteks Dinamo Tirana v CSKA Sofia Koper v Litex Sarajevo v Rangers Domzale v Orasje Hibernians v Dinamo Bucharest APOEL v Murata Rijeka v Omonia Loko. Sofia v Makedonija Vardar v Roeselare Rapid Bucharest v Sliema The "gods" must be smiling on Romanian teams. Two Maltese opponents. The Bulgarian teams don't have it nearly so easy. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Giuseppe
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:48 Edited by: Giuseppe at: 23-06-2006, 13:52 | How cute - 2 Maltese opponents Hibernian - Dinamo Rapid - Sliema Somebody up there loves us |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Giuseppe
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:55 | Basel goes to Kazakhstan I bet they're very happy with the draw |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: badgerboy
Date: 23-06-2006, 13:57 | Central East section Ujpest v Vaduz Zimbru v Karabakh Agdam MIKA Ashtarak v Young Boys Fehervar v Kairat Almaty Zaglebie Lubin v Dinamo Minsk Spartak Trnava v Karvan Evlakh Ameri Tbilisi v Banants Yerevan BATE Borisov v Nistru Otaci Basel v Tobol Kostanay WIT Georgia Tbilisi v Artmedia Bratislava |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: badgerboy
Date: 23-06-2006, 14:10 Edited by: badgerboy at: 23-06-2006, 14:22 | Northern Section HJK Helsinki v Drogheda Brondby v Valur Reykjavik Gefle v Llanelli Jeunesse Esch v Skonto Riga Etzella Ettelbruck v Atvidabergs Ventspils v GI Gotu Glentoran v Brann Bergen Randers v IA Akranes Portadown v FBK Kaunas Rhyl v Suduva Marijampole Levadia Tallinn v FC Haka Skala v Start Lyn Oslo v Flora Tallinn IFK Gothenburg v Derry City Apologies - I failed to read the title of this thread - just blindly followed the UEFA Cup discussion above! I3illy has also posted the full UEFA Cup draw on it's own (more appropriate) thread. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: apw
Date: 23-06-2006, 14:24 | Great Draw for Cork ! First a chance to visit Cyprus, although it will be hot a great support from holiday makers perhaps ! Then if successful a trip to play a former champion Red Star ! Red Star would be favourites but Cork are in mid season so who knows soon enough an Irish team will break through like Thun etc |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 14:31 | Biggest chance of a Q1 reaching Q3 are Hafnarfjordur and Siroki Brjeg, I would say, but I don't give them a lot of chance actualy. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: hejazia
Date: 23-06-2006, 14:32 | Poor basel a 8 hours flight to Kzakhstan all this becuase of a last minute goal. They must really been hating life, but then again so must be Zurich. They really really really got screwed, there was a one chance in 14 to get it Salzbourg and they got it. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: panda
Date: 23-06-2006, 14:39 | I presume Hearts (SCO) will be happy to play the winners of match 8. FC Shakhtyor Soligorsk (BLS) vs NK iroki Brijeg (BIH) |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: modano
Date: 23-06-2006, 14:59 Edited by: modano at: 23-06-2006, 15:00 | Roeselare against (Vardar) Skopje... What was that about typical Belgium? At least they got the country AND city right. More than we can say about the Dutch when they try to translate French into Dutch . |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-06-2006, 15:08 | At least we are not talking about an 'ijzerbaan' (iron road (== chemin de fer)) |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Tomo1s4
Date: 23-06-2006, 15:09 | dont underestimate norwegian teams, their league is pretty even and not as bad as many might think. overall quality of league is better then swedish and danish. last year galatasaray got knocked out by the relegation battlers. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: neill
Date: 23-06-2006, 15:27 | panda, as a Hearts fan I am pleased to avoid Salzburg and Mlade Boleslav, I would have been happy with anyone else really. I expect it to be a difficult game whoever we play though. Artmedia Bratislava are fresh in the minds of Scottish football supporters. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: modano
Date: 23-06-2006, 15:31 | No, but i still remember NOS-text made a beautiful mix-up of the cities of Saint-Nicolas and St-Niklaas, which are exactly 150 km apart (and yes, we are a very small country) . On-topic: i don't think Roeselare stands a chance against Skopje. I was so glad Belgium slipped away from the first place of the UEFA-fairplay ranking, but still we were unlucky. And with this draw, we'll stay that way. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: panda
Date: 23-06-2006, 16:20 | @neill I can't say either of those oopponents of hearts mean anything to me, but I'm pretty sure they won't be as good as Art Bratislava.. Yes, poor Zurich - an epic Alpine derby though - the two cities can't be more than 3-4 hrs DRIVING distance apart. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: Gabi
Date: 23-06-2006, 17:57 Edited by: Gabi at: 23-06-2006, 18:02 | The draws for UCL and UC were also live audio on uefa.com. They explained before the draw what will happen if two teams from the same country would be paired together (there were only 4 possible cases from which two happened). The comentator also specified that there is an error with Hibernians' flag. EDIT: You can hear the recording of the draw on uefa.com. |
| Re: UCL first and second qualifying round draw | |
| Author: seso
Date: 15-07-2006, 23:41 | I was reading this about FC Sheriff Tiraspol in wikipedia (Tiraspol is the name of the city and Sheriff the company that owns it): "Sheriff is a company based in Tiraspol, Transnistria, a break-away republic in the Republic of Moldova. It owns a chain of petrol stations, a chain of supermarkets, a TV channel, a publishing house, a construction company, a Mercedes-Benz dealer, an advertising agency, a spirits factory, a few bread factories, a casino, a mobile phone network, the football club FC Sheriff Tiraspol and its newly built stadium and sport complex, at an estimated cost of $200 million including a five-star hotel. The name came from the two founders of the company, who were previously Soviet police officers. According to BBC, Sheriff enjoys advantages from the Transnistrian government, including tax breaks and the right to use hard currency (instead of Transnistrian roubles like the other companies). The owner is believed to be the son of president Igor Smirnov, Vladimir Smirnov, who Washington Times names "the major silent partner" in Sheriff. Both Vladimir Smirnov and Igor Smirnov vehemently deny this. According to Moldova's Jurnal de Chiºinãu, it is claimed that the Sheriff company might be a money laundering scheme, used by Vladimir Smirnov (who is also the head of the Transnistrian customs) to cover the money obtained from trafficking of cigarettes, arms, drugs and alcohol. Sheriff has denied this, calling it a fabrication and Moldovan "black propaganda"." It also says that Transnistria is the poorest region of Europe. |