Ukrainian Premier League 2016-2017

[Metallica1989]

Dynamo Kyiv is dead and buried.

let's see what will happen with this club in the next weeks.

What so bad looms over Dynamo?

Honestly I do not know why he wrote it, I do not see any significant problems in Dynamo at this moment

[Funkmaster]

Dynamo Kyiv is dead and buried.

let's see what will happen with this club in the next weeks.

What so bad looms over Dynamo?

Honestly I do not know why he wrote it, I do not see any significant problems in Dynamo at this moment

I don't see any problems concerning Dinamo Kiew too, but in general I think the ukrainian league is in clear decline. No spectators, bad stadiums and political problems. Imo it will be very difficult for them to stay on 8th position. It will be interesting to see if Dinamo and Shakhtar are able to keep them high in the next years, but I don't think so. Dnipro and Metalist are gone and you could see that clubs like Zorya or Poltava aren't really strong. In a few years Ukraine will be in 11th - 13th position behind Belgium, Netherlands and Turkey.

[Metallica1989]

What so bad looms over Dynamo?

Honestly I do not know why he wrote it, I do not see any significant problems in Dynamo at this moment

I don't see any problems concerning Dinamo Kiew too, but in general I think the ukrainian league is in clear decline. No spectators, bad stadiums and political problems. Imo it will be very difficult for them to stay on 8th position. It will be interesting to see if Dinamo and Shakhtar are able to keep them high in the next years, but I don't think so. Dnipro and Metalist are gone and you could see that clubs like Zorya or Poltava aren't really strong. In a few years Ukraine will be in 11th - 13th position behind Belgium, Netherlands and Turkey.

Agree, I do not deny this fact, in next 3-4 years (and perhaps earlier) Ukraine will fight for 11-12 places, but if we are reforming Junior football we can return to the level of Eredivisie and Belgium, as the main item of income of clubs will sell players, so the Ukrainian clubs are now getting in the way of the sale of their own pupils football academies...this is a real revolution in Ukrainian football, finally our clubs start to live within our means, not really hoping for the oligarchs

[kleber]

Honestly I do not know why he wrote it, I do not see any significant problems in Dynamo at this moment

I don't see any problems concerning Dinamo Kiew too, but in general I think the ukrainian league is in clear decline. No spectators, bad stadiums and political problems. Imo it will be very difficult for them to stay on 8th position. It will be interesting to see if Dinamo and Shakhtar are able to keep them high in the next years, but I don't think so. Dnipro and Metalist are gone and you could see that clubs like Zorya or Poltava aren't really strong. In a few years Ukraine will be in 11th - 13th position behind Belgium, Netherlands and Turkey.

Agree, I do not deny this fact, in next 3-4 years (and perhaps earlier) Ukraine will fight for 11-12 places, but if we are reforming Junior football we can return to the level of Eredivisie and Belgium, as the main item of income of clubs will sell players, so the Ukrainian clubs are now getting in the way of the sale of their own pupils football academies...this is a real revolution in Ukrainian football, finally our clubs start to live within our means, not really hoping for the oligarchs

Ukraine economy is the second worst in europe,how can you be competitive in europe without the oilgarchs?

tv rights,ticket sales,merchandising are on albanian level....dynamo had 5000 specs yesterday,lol.

realistic ukraine inb the top 15 will be a great achievement by 2020.

[bugylibicska]

Olimpik Donetsk 2 - 1 Volyn
Shakhtar Donetsk 2 - 0 Chernomorets Odessa
Dynamo Kyiv 4 - 1 Karpaty
Zorya 2 - 1 Zirka
Vorskla 2 - 2 FC Olexandria (Vorskla - down by 2 goals - scored twice after the 90 minutes regular time)
Stal Kamianske 1 - 1 Dnipro

After 13 rounds: all 3 teams in Europe won - I expect 3-4 points from them next week.

Shakhtar 35
Zorya 29
Dynamo Kyiv 27
Oleksandria 21
Olimpik Donetsk 20
Chornomorets 18
Vorskla 16...

[bugylibicska]

Shakhtar already won their group after 4 rounds, very good. I hope they`ll have a deep run in the spring. Dynamo and Zorya have no chance practically, they`re both out - bar a miracle.

[kleber]

Shakhtar already won their group after 4 rounds, very good. I hope they`ll have a deep run in the spring. Dynamo and Zorya have no chance practically, they`re both out - bar a miracle.

it will be the worst season for ukraine in the last 10 years....

[Metallica1989]

Shakhtar already won their group after 4 rounds, very good. I hope they`ll have a deep run in the spring. Dynamo and Zorya have no chance practically, they`re both out - bar a miracle.

it will be the worst season for ukraine in the last 10 years....

not a fact, it may be no less than in the season 2009\2010 5.800

[bugylibicska]

Shakhtar already won their group after 4 rounds, very good. I hope they`ll have a deep run in the spring. Dynamo and Zorya have no chance practically, they`re both out - bar a miracle.

it will be the worst season for ukraine in the last 10 years....

not a fact, it may be no less than in the season 2009\2010 5.800

Both Dynamo and Zorya might still contribute and if Shakhtar go deep - semi-final - Ukraine could reach 7 points.

[Metallica1989]

it will be the worst season for ukraine in the last 10 years....

not a fact, it may be no less than in the season 2009\2010 5.800

Both Dynamo and Zorya might still contribute and if Shakhtar go deep - semi-final - Ukraine could reach 7 points.

this season, considering the fact that Dinamo greatly failed, probably 6.000 will be a good result ... As for Shakhtar, I think it is not worth much to focus attention on this perfomance in GS EL, unknown in what form will be team in february, but I hope for the best

[bugylibicska]

not a fact, it may be no less than in the season 2009\2010 5.800

Both Dynamo and Zorya might still contribute and if Shakhtar go deep - semi-final - Ukraine could reach 7 points.

this season, considering the fact that Dinamo greatly failed, probably 6.000 will be a good result ... As for Shakhtar, I think it is not worth much to focus attention on this perfomance in GS EL, unknown in what form will be team in february, but I hope for the best

You`re right, we don`t know how long the owner is able to keep Shakhtar together. They might also sell some important players in the winter transfer window.

Volyn 0 - 1 Stal Kamianske
Zirka 1 - 2 Olimpik Donetsk
Karpaty 1 - 0 Vorskla

[bugylibicska]

Chornomorets Odesa 0 - 0 Zorya
Dnipro 1 - 2 Dynamo Kyiv
Olexandria 1 - 2 Shakhtar Donetsk

After 14 rounds:

Shakhtar 38
Dynamo Kyiv, Zorya 30
Olimpik Donetsk 23
Oleksandria 21
Chornomorets 19
Vorskla 16...

[kleber]

Dec 11 Dynamo-Shakhtar,last game before the winter break.

[bugylibicska]

Olimpik Donetsk 1 - 0 Chornomorets Odesa
Zorya 1 - 2 FC Olexandria (surprise)
Dynamo Kyiv 2 - 1 Stal Dniprodzerzhynsk
Shakhtar Donetsk 2 - 1 Karpaty

After 15 rounds: (2 more games tomorrow)

Shakhtar 41
Dynamo Kyiv 33
Zorya 30
Olimpik Donetsk 26
Oleksandria 24
Chornomorets 19
Vorskla 16 (1)...

[bugylibicska]

Zirka 2 - 0 Volyn
Vorskla 1 - 2 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk

After 15 rounds:

Shakhtar 41
Dynamo Kyiv 33
Zorya 30
Olimpik Donetsk 26
Oleksandria 24
Chornomorets 19
Vorskla 16...