Dutch Football Season 2017/18

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European Vitesse out against a 5th tier team. :shock:
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Thunder_PT wrote:European Vitesse out against a 5th tier team. :shock:
And after eliminating the Cup winner this 5th level team can now try to also eliminate the champions.

Cup round 2 draw (24-26 October)

VVV Venlo-FC Utrecht
Willem II-sc Heerenveen
Roda JC Kerkrade-FC Groningen
FC Volendam (2)-PSV
Almere City FC (2)-AZ
FC Twente-FC Eindhoven (2)
PEC Zwolle-Kozakken Boys (3)
ASV De Dijk (3)-Ajax
Heracles Almelo-winner FC Lisse (3) / HSV Hoek (5)
Feyenoord-Swift (5)
Fortuna Sittard (2)-Go Ahead Eagles (2)
FC Den Bosch (2)-SC Cambuur (2)
NEC (2)-Achilles'29 (3)
RKC Waalwijk (2)-De Treffers (3)
Katwijk (3)-VVSB (3)
GVVV (3)-Kon. HFC (3)
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Crazy weekend in the Eredivisie. Both clubs eliminated by amateur teams in the Cup, now win away to Feyenoord and Ajax. And another few weird results. PSV winning with 1-7 at Utrecht and AZ losing at home to Excelsior with 2 penalties within 8 minutes:

Eredivisie matchday 6

Saturday 23 September
1830 Willem II-sc Heerenveen 1-2 (1-1)
12.Lieftink 1-0
45.Schaars 1-1
59.Kobayashi 1-2

1945 Feyenoord-NAC Breda 0-2 (0-1)
33.Korte 0-1
87.Enevoldsen 0-2

1945 Heracles Almelo-Roda JC Kerkrade 2-1 (0-1)
5.Paulissen 0-1
51.Pröpper 1-1
93.Vermeij 2-1

2045 ADO Den Haag-Sparta Rotterdam 1-0 (0-0)
50.El Khayati 1-0
Sunday 24 September
1230 FC Utrecht-PSV 1-7 (1-2)
15.Locadia 0-1
21.Labyad 1-1 pen
40.Lozano 1-2
49.Locadia 1-3
68.Locadia 1-4
80.Van Ginkel 1-5 pen
85.Locadia 1-6 pen
89.Bergwijn 1-7
R: 84.Troupée (Utr)

1430 Ajax-Vitesse 1-2 (0-2)
21.Kashia 0-1
48.Rashica 0-2
83.Viergever 1-2

1430 FC Groningen-FC Twente 1-0 (0-0)
51.Idrissi 1-0
1430 VVV Venlo-PEC Zwolle 1-1 (0-1)
30.Ehizibue 0-1
69.Leemans 1-1

1645 AZ-Excelsior 0-2 (0-2)
2.Bruins 0-1 pen
8.Bruins 0-2 pen


Standings
Champions League, Europa League, Europa League play-offs, relegation play-offs, relegation

1.PSV 6-15 (17-6) [C]
2.sc Heerenveen 6-14 (12-7) [C]

3.Vitesse 6-13 (14-6)
4.Feyenoord 6-12 (12-6) [C] *
5.AZ 6-12 (10-7) [C]
6.PEC Zwolle 6-11 (10-8) [C]
7.Ajax 6-10 (11-6) [C]

8.VVV Venlo 6-9 (8-6) [C] *
9.FC Utrecht 6-9 (9-13) [C]
10.Heracles Almelo 6-8 (10-11) [C]
11.FC Groningen 6-8 (9-10) [C]
12.Excelsior 6-7 (7-9)
13.NAC Breda 6-7 (9-13)
14.ADO Den Haag 6-7 (5-9)
15.Sparta Rotterdam 6-5 (4-9)
16.FC Twente 6-3 (6-8) [C] **
17.Willem II 6-3 (6-14) [C]

18.Roda JC Kerkrade 6-0 (5-16) [C]

*: 4th placed team qualified for Europa League if Cup winner is in top 4, 8th placed team qualified for Europa League play-offs if Cup winner is in top 7.
**: banned from European football
[C]: still active in the Cup

Eredivisie matchday 7

Friday 29 September
2000 FC Twente-Heracles Almelo
Saturday 30 September
1830 NAC Breda-ADO Den Haag
1945 PEC Zwolle-FC Groningen
1945 PSV-Willem II
2045 Excelsior-VVV Venlo
Sunday 1 October
1230 AZ-Feyenoord
1430 sc Heerenveen-Ajax
1430 Vitesse-FC Utrecht
1645 Sparta Rotterdam-Roda JC Kerkrade
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Forza AZ wrote:Cup round 1

1945 FC Lisse (3)-HSV Hoek (5) 2-2 (0-0, 1-1) pen 5-4 *
49.Van Eeuwijk 1-0
93.Ceesay 1-1
105.Impens 1-2
107.Van Eeuwijk 2-2
R: 116.Valk (Lis)


*: The referee decided to take the penalties in the experimental ABBA order, and switched back to the normal order after the first 10 were taken. A decision whether the result will stand or not will be taken later.
It has been decided today that the penalty-series will have to be taken again on Wednesday 11 October at 2100.
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Eerste Divisie matchday 6

Friday 22 September
2000 Almere City FC-FC Oss 2-2 (0-2)
2000 FC Eindhoven-FC Den Bosch 0-1 (0-1)
2000 FC Emmen-Go Ahead Eagles 0-0 (0-0)
2000 FC Volendam-De Graafschap 0-0 (0-0)
2000 Fortuna Sittard-AZ 2 5-1 (4-1)
2000 Helmond Sport-FC Dordrecht 1-2 (1-0)
2000 MVV Maastricht-SC Cambuur 1-1 (1-0)
2000 RKC Waalwijk-FC Utrecht 2 2-2 (2-1)
Monday 25 September
2000 Ajax 2-Telstar 1-1 (0-1)
2000 PSV 2-NEC 3-3 (1-2)

Standings
promotion, promotion play-offs, period titles, relegation

1.Ajax 2 6-14 (15-6) *
2.Fortuna Sittard 6-13 (15-7)
3.MVV Maastricht 6-12 (10-5)
4.FC Oss 6-11 (12-8)

5.AZ 2 6-10 (10-10) *
6.De Graafschap 6-9 (9-5)
7.NEC 6-9 (10-10)

8.PSV 2 6-9 (9-10) *
9.FC Emmen 6-8 (6-4)
10.Telstar 6-8 (11-10)
11.SC Cambuur 6-8 (8-8)
12.FC Dordrecht 6-8 (9-13)

13.FC Den Bosch 6-7 (8-10)
14.Almere City FC 6-6 (9-10)
15.FC Eindhoven 6-5 (6-8)
16.FC Utrecht 2 6-5 (7-13) *
17.Go Ahead Eagles 6-4 (7-10)
18.FC Volendam 6-3 (3-6)
19.RKC Waalwijk 6-3 (4-8)
20.Helmond Sport 6-2 (7-14)

*: ineligible for promotion (play-offs)

Eerste Divisie matchday 7

Friday 29 September
2000 De Graafschap-FC Emmen
2000 FC Den Bosch-PSV 2
2000 FC Dordrecht-FC Volendam
2000 FC Oss-Ajax 2
2000 Go Ahead Eagles-Almere City FC
2000 AZ 2-FC Eindhoven
2000 FC Utrecht 2-Helmond Sport
2000 NEC-MVV Maastricht
2000 SC Cambuur-RKC Waalwijk
2000 Telstar-Fortuna Sittard
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Champions League round 1 matchday 2

Tuesday 26 September
2045 SSC Napoli (Ita)-Feyenoord 3-1 (1-0)
7.Insigne 1-0
49.Mertens 2-0
70.Callejón 3-0
93.Amrabat 3-1


Europa League round 1 matchday 2

Thursday 28 September
1900 OGC Nice (Fra)-Vitesse 3-0 (2-0)
16.Pléa 1-0
45.Saint-Maximin 2-0
82.Pléa 3-0


Standings
Champions League 1/8 finals, Europa League round 2

1.Manchester City FC (Eng) 2-6 (6-0)
2.FC Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukr) 2-3 (2-3)

3.SSC Napoli (Ita) 2-3 (4-3)
4.Feyenoord 2-0 (1-7)

1.OGC Nice (Fra) 2-6 (8-1)
2.SS Lazio (Ita) 2-6 (5-2)

3.Vitesse 2-0 (2-6)
4.SV Zulte Waregem (Bel) 2-0 (1-7)


Champions League round 1 matchday 3

Tuesday 17 October
2045 Feyenoord-FC Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukr)

Europa League round 1 matchday 3

Thursday 19 October
1900 SV Zulte Waregem (Bel)-Vitesse
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Eerste Divisie matchday 7

Friday 29 September
2000 De Graafschap-FC Emmen 2-2 (0-1)
2000 FC Den Bosch-PSV 2 5-0 (1-0)
2000 FC Dordrecht-FC Volendam 2-2 (0-1)
2000 FC Oss-Ajax 2 0-3 (0-3)
2000 Go Ahead Eagles-Almere City FC 2-1 (2-1)
2000 AZ 2-FC Eindhoven 1-2 (1-1)
2000 FC Utrecht 2-Helmond Sport 0-0 (0-0)
2000 NEC-MVV Maastricht 4-1 (1-0)
2000 SC Cambuur-RKC Waalwijk 1-1 (1-1)
2000 Telstar-Fortuna Sittard 0-6 (0-0)

Standings
promotion, promotion play-offs, period titles, relegation

1.Ajax 2 7-17 (18-6) *
2.Fortuna Sittard 7-16 (21-7)
3.NEC 7-12 (14-11)
4.MVV Maastricht 7-12 (11-9)
5.FC Oss 7-11 (12-11)
6.De Graafschap 7-10 (11-7)
7.FC Den Bosch 7-10 (13-10)

8.AZ 2 7-10 (11-12) *
9.FC Emmen 7-9 (8-6)
10.SC Cambuur 7-9 (9-9)
11.FC Dordrecht 7-9 (11-15)

12.PSV 2 7-9 (9-15) *
13.FC Eindhoven 7-8 (8-9)
14.Telstar 7-8 (11-16)
15.Go Ahead Eagles 7-7 (9-11)
16.Almere City FC 7-6 (10-12)
17.FC Utrecht 2 7-6 (7-13) *
18.FC Volendam 7-4 (5-8)
19.RKC Waalwijk 7-4 (5-9)
20.Helmond Sport 7-3 (7-14)

*: ineligible for promotion (play-offs)

Eerste Divisie matchday 8

Friday 6 October
2000 Almere City FC-MVV Maastricht
2000 FC Dordrecht-FC Eindhoven
2000 FC Emmen-SC Cambuur
2000 FC Oss-Go Ahead Eagles
2000 FC Volendam-Telstar
2000 Fortuna Sittard-NEC
2000 Helmond Sport-De Graafschap
2000 Ajax 2-FC Utrecht 2
2000 PSV 2-AZ 2
Sunday 8 October
1430 RKC Waalwijk-FC Den Bosch
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Eredivisie matchday 7

Friday 29 September
2000 FC Twente-Heracles Almelo 2-1 (1-0)
2.Jensen 1-0
52.Gladon 1-1
76.Holla 2-1

Saturday 30 September
1830 NAC Breda-ADO Den Haag 0-1 (0-0)
80.Beugelsdijk 0-1
1945 PEC Zwolle-FC Groningen 3-2 (1-1)
15.Doan 0-1
19.Nijland 1-1
54.Van Weert 1-2
60.Thomas 2-2
93.Mokhtar 3-2
R: 87.Van Weert (Gro)

1945 PSV-Willem II 4-0 (0-0)
49.Lozano 1-0
55.Pereiro 2-0
58.Lozano 3-0
70.Van Ginkel 4-0 pen

2045 Excelsior-VVV Venlo 0-2 (0-1)
32.Leemans 0-1
70.Seuntjens 0-2

Sunday 1 October
1230 AZ-Feyenoord 0-4 (0-3)
11.Berghuis 0-1
17.Larsson 0-2
41.Berghuis 0-3
57.Vilhena 0-4

1430 sc Heerenveen-Ajax 0-4 (0-2)
38.Neres 0-1
41.Neres 0-2
75.Schöne 0-3 pen
83.Wöber 0-4

1430 Vitesse-FC Utrecht 1-1 (0-0)
69.Dessers 0-1
76.Mount 1-1

1645 Sparta Rotterdam-Roda JC Kerkrade 1-2 (0-2)
29.Ndenge 0-1
35.Schahin 0-2
78.Mühren 1-2


Standings
Champions League, Europa League, Europa League play-offs, relegation play-offs, relegation

1.PSV 7-18 (21-6) [C]
2.Feyenoord 7-15 (16-6) [C]

3.Vitesse 7-14 (15-7)
4.PEC Zwolle 7-14 (13-10) [C] *
5.sc Heerenveen 7-14 (12-11) [C]
6.Ajax 7-13 (15-6) [C]
7.VVV Venlo 7-12 (10-6) [C]

8.AZ 7-12 (10-11) [C] *
9.ADO Den Haag 7-10 (6-9)
10.FC Utrecht 7-10 (10-14) [C]
11.FC Groningen 7-8 (11-13) [C]
11.Heracles Almelo 7-8 (11-13) [C]
13.Excelsior 7-7 (7-11)
14.NAC Breda 7-7 (9-14)
15.FC Twente 7-6 (8-9) [C] **
16.Sparta Rotterdam 7-5 (5-11)
17.Roda JC Kerkrade 7-3 (7-17) [C]

18.Willem II 7-3 (6-18) [C]

*: 4th placed team qualified for Europa League if Cup winner is in top 4, 8th placed team qualified for Europa League play-offs if Cup winner is in top 7.
**: banned from European football
[C]: still active in the Cup

Eredivisie matchday 8

Saturday 14 October
1830 Ajax-Sparta Rotterdam
1830 Roda JC Kerkrade-NAC Breda
2045 FC Utrecht-sc Heerenveen
2045 Feyenoord-PEC Zwolle
Sunday 15 October
1230 Heracles Almelo-Vitesse
1430 FC Groningen-AZ
1430 VVV Venlo-PSV
1430 Willem II-FC Twente
1645 ADO Den Haag-Excelsior
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The Dutch FA decided today to change the relegation regulations, and so no team will be relegated from the Eerste Divisie to the 3rd level this season.
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They changed the rules mid-season?
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yes, mainly due to 3rd level clubs being afraid of the implication (investment and costs due to license requirements) of promoting.

Before, we had 2 locked professional leagues without relegation to amateur football and a separate league for 2nd professional teams. Recently, KNVB connected professional and amateur football via promotion/relegation while dividing 2nd professional teams over 2nd, 3rd and national divisions. But some professional teams, like Feyenoord, didn't like this and they still play in some mini-league on monday evenings.

So pending those fixes, promotion/relegation is postponed.
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you have now a top-player in the dutch League 2. Gerson playing at telstar. Next year he will play in a first division club
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Malko wrote:you have now a top-player in the dutch League 2. Gerson playing at telstar. Next year he will play in a first division club
I watched him play a few weeks ago when Telstar played against AZ 2. He is a very good player, and indeed I can't imagine he will stay at Telstar for long. He will be at a higher level team soon I guess.
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Malko wrote:you have now a top-player in the dutch League 2. Gerson playing at telstar. Next year he will play in a first division club
Good choice. Maybe he can follow the footstep of others who made it to subtop leagues thanks to Dutch 2nd League:
Dries Mertens, Kevin Strootman, Timo Letschert, and Keisuke Honda to name a few.

Others even made it to top leagues:
Klaas Jan Huntelaar, Nacer Chadli and Vincent Janssen.
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Gerson was the one that "nearly" shot the 0-1 for Luxembourg in Toulouse and one time went alone towards lloris, called offside when he was not. ask kozsniency what he thinks about him. I have known this guy as a youngster in Metz. His character didn't allow him to stay in the club and beeing professional earlier....he went to Luxembourg, playing in racing Luxembourg and Fola Esch . I think Fola Esch is in a level as high as the second dutch league, but in telstar he has more chances to pass into a first professional league. ...well, who knows, maybe tomorrow he can push Holland into the WC qualification...by beating sweden.
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