UEFA Nations League 2022/23

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Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23

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bugylibicska wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:36 If I think back the turning point for Germany came quite a while ago, in the 1994 WC when they lost to Bulgaria. Since then they are not the Auld Deutschland.
This is a hyperbole, they won a World Cup 20 years after that.
And reached another World Cup final with a poor roster (in 2002).
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bugylibicska wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:36 If I think back the turning point for Germany came quite a while ago, in the 1994 WC when they lost to Bulgaria. Since then they are not the Auld Deutschland.
And they won Euro '96 straight after...

They've also won a World Cup in 2014 too.

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3-3 FT. Not bad for a dead rubber! :tongue:

The three goals may well be more valuable than if we'd won this match 1-0. Bad mistakes cost us, we were the better team and should have won this match.
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babaluj1 wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:38 Well done to the Hungarians :clapping: , they dominated the Death Group. What the Final Four will be Netherlands, Croatia, Hungary, and Spain or Portugal looks like. :D
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Italy spoiled the Hungary party while the England v Germany game looks like it was entertaining. Perhaps a concern for them they couldn't win a single game in their group, but hey, Portugal won a Euro tournament with only one win in normal time.
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Polak wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:44 Italy spoiled the Hungary party while the England v Germany game looks like it was entertaining. Perhaps a concern for them they couldn't win a single game in their group, but hey, Portugal won a Euro tournament with only one win in normal time.
England game was hard to watch tbh until England scored. Was like watching paint dry till then.

I'm in a pub with a lot of England fans and I don't think they realised they were already relegated lol

Some countries haven't taken the Nation's league seriously but it's very significant now in a lot of ways. England are now pot 2 for 2 qualifying campaigns if the current system is kept.

It's important Scotland win the group tomorrow but the squad has been hit with injury and illness. Our CB area is extremely weak now.
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Semi finals

Portugal/spain-croatia
Holland-italy
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Current overall UNL ranking 2022/23 after tonight's matches, used to seed the draw on October 9th in Frankfurt for the qualification groups of EURO 2024 in Germany.
- the group standings are sorted first on ascending points lost (instead of descending points won). H2H and fair play tiebreakers are only applied in the final group standings.
- the numbers 1 to 3 in the groups in leagues B and D are sorted in the overall ranking on their group results without the matches against the group number 4.
- Russia is excluded from the tournament.

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league	Pos	team			MP	W	D	L	GF	GA	Pts	GD	pot EURO24q

Code: Select all

A	1	Netherlands		6	5	1	0	14	6	16	 8	1	Final Four
A	1	Croatia			6	4	1	1	8	6	13	 2	1	Final Four
A	1	Italy			6	3	2	1	8	7	11	 1	1	Final Four
A	1	Portugal		5	3	1	1	11	2	10	 9	1	
A	2	Denmark			6	4	0	2	9	5	12	 4	1	
A	2	Belgium			6	3	1	2	11	8	10	 3	1	
A	2	Hungary			6	3	1	2	8	5	10	 3	1	
A	2	Spain			5	2	2	1	7	5	8	 2	1	
A	3	Germany			6	1	4	1	11	9	7	 2	host	
A	3	Poland			6	2	1	3	6	12	7	-6	1	
A	3	Switzerland		5	2	0	3	4	8	6	-4	1	
													--------
A	3	France			6	1	2	3	5	7	5	-2	2	
A	4	Czech Republic		5	1	1	3	4	11	4	-7	2	
A	4	Austria			6	1	1	4	6	10	4	-4	2	relegated
A	4	England			6	0	3	3	4	10	3	-6	2	relegated
A	4	Wales			6	0	1	5	6	11	1	-5	2	relegated
--------------------
B	1	Israel			4	2	2	0	8	6	8	 2	2	group winner
B	1	Bosnia-Herzegovina	4	2	2	0	6	4	8	 2	2	group winner
B	1	Scotland		3	2	0	1	5	4	6	 1	2	
B	1	Serbia			3	1	1	1	6	4	4	 2	2	
B	2	Finland			4	2	1	1	7	4	7	 3	2	
													--------
B	2	Norway			3	1	1	1	2	2	4	 0	3	
B	2	Ukraine			3	1	1	1	2	4	4	-2	3	
B	2	Iceland			3	0	3	0	5	5	3	 0	3	
B	3	Slovenia		4	1	2	1	5	7	5	-2	3	
B	3	Republic of Ireland	4	1	1	2	5	4	4	 1	3	
B	3	Albania			3	0	1	2	3	5	1	-2	3	
B	3	Montenegro		4	0	1	3	1	6	1	-5	3	
B	4	Romania			6	2	1	3	6	8	7	-2	3	relegated
B	4	Sweden			5	1	0	4	6	10	3	-4	3	
B	4	Armenia			5	1	0	4	2	14	3	-12	3	
													--------
B	4	Russia			0	0	0	0	0	0	0	 0	excl.	relegated
--------------------
C	1	Georgia			6	5	1	0	16	3	16	13	4	group winner
C	1	Turkey			6	4	1	1	18	5	13	13	4	group winner
C	1	Kazakhstan		6	4	1	1	8	6	13	 2	4	group winner
C	1	Greece			5	4	0	1	7	1	12	 6	4	group winner
C	2	Luxembourg		6	3	2	1	9	7	11	 2	4	
C	2	Azerbaijan		6	3	1	2	7	4	10	 3	4	
C	2	Bulgaria		6	2	3	1	10	8	9	 2	4	
C	2	Kosovo			5	2	0	3	6	7	6	-1	4	
C	3	Faroe Islands		6	2	2	2	7	10	8	-3	4	
C	3	North Macedonia		6	2	1	3	7	7	7	 0	4	
													--------
C	3	Slovakia		6	2	1	3	5	6	7	-1	5	
C	3	Northern Ireland	5	1	2	2	6	7	5	-1	5	
C	4	Cyprus			5	1	2	2	3	7	5	-4	5	
C	4	Belarus			6	0	3	3	3	7	3	-4	5	play-out
C	4	Lithuania		6	0	1	5	2	14	1	-12	5	play-out
C	4	Gibraltar		6	0	1	5	3	18	1	-15	5	play-out
--------------------
D	1	Estonia			4	4	0	0	10	2	12	 8	5	group winner
D	1	Latvia			4	2	1	1	9	5	7	 4	5	group winner
D	2	Moldova			4	2	1	1	6	6	7	 0	5	
D	2	Malta			4	2	0	2	5	4	6	 1	5	
													--------
D	3	Andorra			4	0	2	2	2	6	2	-4	6	
D	3	San Marino		4	0	0	4	0	9	0	-9	6	
D	4	Liechtenstein		6	0	0	6	1	11	0	-10	6	
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Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23

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kleber wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:49 Semi finals

Portugal/spain-croatia
Holland-italy
Semi-finals will be drawn.
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Lubomir25 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:48
Polak wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:44 Italy spoiled the Hungary party while the England v Germany game looks like it was entertaining. Perhaps a concern for them they couldn't win a single game in their group, but hey, Portugal won a Euro tournament with only one win in normal time.
England game was hard to watch tbh until England scored. Was like watching paint dry till then.

I'm in a pub with a lot of England fans and I don't think they realised they were already relegated lol

Some countries haven't taken the Nation's league seriously but it's very significant now in a lot of ways. England are now pot 2 for 2 qualifying campaigns if the current system is kept.

It's important Scotland win the group tomorrow but the squad has been hit with injury and illness. Our CB area is extremely weak now.
It's Germany, they're gonna be fired up! :grin1:
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Is Finland guaranteed Pot 2?

I don't see a scenario where a 2nd placed team gets more points than them after subtracting the results against the 4th team - and Iceland can't reach 7 points.

Edit: There is if Ireland is 4th and Scotland 2nd.
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Firnen wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 23:04 Is Finland guaranteed Pot 2?

I don't see a scenario where a 2nd placed team gets more points than them after subtracting the results against the 4th team - and Iceland can't reach 7 points.

Edit: There is if Ireland is 4th and Scotland 2nd.
Also if Slovenia is 4th and Norway 2nd, also with Slovenia 4th and Serbia 2nd with a draw vs Norway, Serbia will have 7 with a better goal difference than Finland
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Meanwhile Bulgaria managed to beat North Macedonia and got 2nd place in the Group and Pot 4 in the Qualifiers.

The Faroe Islands will be in Pot 4 too !!

Pot 5 for Slovakia !

North Macedonia needs either Greece not to lose to Northern Ireland or Kosovo not to lose to Cyprus to be in Pot 4.
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Tazmania wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 22:39 I don't agree. They won euro96 immediately after that and were very good from 2006 to 2014.
Well, Germany are Germany and still will win even more WCs or Euros, but I'd the feeling back then they've lost the myth of invincibility. If you look back in the history of WCs they couldn't win all the time, but never lost to a team like Bulgaria, an absolute underdog. So, for me that was the watershed moment.
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Well done Italy, one of those very rare examples when I wanted Italy to win :grin1:
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