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Young players in the French Ligue 1

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch


Update after MD15

26 pts - Nuno Mendes - DL - 20 - Paris SG - Portugal
26 pts - Adrien Truffert - DL - 20 - Rennes - France
24 pts - Dango Ouattara - AML - 20 - Lorient - Burkina-Faso
22 pts - Folarin Balogun - FW - 21 - Reims - England
21 pts - Arnaud Kalimuendo - FW - 20 - Rennes - France
21 pts - Malo Gusto - DR - 19 - Lyon - France
21 pts - Castello Lukeba - DC - 19 - Lyon - France
18 pts - Johann Lepenant - MC - 20 - Lyon - France
18 pts - Elye Wahi - FW - 19 - Montpellier - France
17 pts - Désiré Doué - MC - 17 - Rennes - France
etc.


Previous winners:
2022 - William Saliba (Marseille)
2021 - Sven Botman (Lille)
2020 - Boubacar Kamara (Marseille)
2019 - Kylian Mbappé (Paris SG)
2018 - Lucas Tousart (Lyon)
2017 - Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
2016 - Vincent Koziello (Nice)
2015 - Samuel Umtiti (Lyon)
2014 - Lucas (Paris SG)
2013 - Timothée Kolodziejczak (Nice)
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Young players in top European National Teams


Final ranking 2022

- U21 players (born in 2001 and later)
- time spent in official games only (WC qualifiers, NL qualifiers, WCfinals)
- only top 8 European teams as per the World-ELO ranking (FRA-NED-POR-ESP-ITA-ENG-GER-CRO)


based on time spent on the pitch (in minutes)


Jude BELLINGHAM - Winner
MC, 2003, Dortmund & England (22 caps)
Career: Birmingham - Dortmund (2020)
Title:
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2021
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Josko GVARDIOL
DC, 2002, Leipzig & Croatia (19 caps)
Career: Dinamo Zagreb - Leipzig (2021)
Titles:
- Champion of Croatia 2020 & 2021
Image


Jurriën TIMBER
DC, 2001, Ajax & Netherlands (14 caps)
Career: Ajax (2020)
Titles:
- Champion of the Netherlands 2021 & 2022
- Winner of the KNVB Beker 2021
- (youth) Winner of the U17 Euro 2018
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GAVI
MC, 2004, Barcelona & Spain (17 caps)
Career: Barcelona (2021)
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Bukayo SAKA
FWR, 2001, Arsenal & England (24 caps)
Career: Arsenal (2018)
Title:
- Winner of the FA Cup 2020
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547 mn - Jamal Musiala - MC - 2003 - Bayern - Germany
456 mn - Pedri - MC - 2002 - Barcelona Spain
404 mn - Nuno Mendes - DL - 2002 - Paris - Portugal
351 mn - William Saliba - DC - 2001 - Arsenal - France
326 mn - Wilfried Gnonto - FW - 2003 - Leeds - Italy
etc.


Previous winners
2021 - Ferran Torres (Spain)
2020 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Italy)
2019 - Matthijs de Ligt (Netherlands)
2018 - Kylian Mbappé (France)
2017 - Denis Zakaria (Switzerland)
2016 - Joshua Kimmich (Germany)
2015 - Memphis Depay (Netherlands)
2014 - Divock Origi (Belgium)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Belgium)
2012 - Jetro Willems (Netherlands)
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Young players in the Spanish Liga

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch


Update after MD15

38 pts - Gavi - MC - 18 - Barcelona - Spain
35 pts - Pedri - MC - 20 - Barcelona - Spain
31 pts - Alejandro Balde - DL - 19 - Barcelona - Spain
29 pts - Ansu Fati - FWL - 20 - Barcelona - Spain
27 pts - Nico Williams - AMR - 20 - Athletic - Spain
24 pts - Eduardo Camavinga - MC - 20 - Real Madrid - France
21 pts - Yeremi Pino - MR - 20 - Villarreal - Spain
20 pts - Alex Baena - ML - 21 - Villarreal - Spain
19 pts - Aimar Oroz - FW - 21 - Osasuna - Spain
15 pts - Yunus Musah - MC - 20 - Valencia - United States
etc


Previous winners:
2022 - Vinicius Junior (Real Madrid)
2021 - Pedri (Barcelona)
2020 - Federico Valverde (Real Madrid)
2019 - Oscar Melendo (Espanyol)
2018 - Gonçalo Guedes (Valencia)
2017 - Mikel Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad)
2016 - Saul Niguez (Atlético)
2015 - José Gaya (Valencia)
2014 - Aymeric Laporte (Athletic)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Atlético)
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Lyonnais wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:15
31 pts - Alejandro Balde - DL - 19 - Barcelona - Spain
Jean-Pierre Barda and Alexander Bard came to my mind! :grin1:
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Lyonnais wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 Young players in top European National Teams


Final ranking 2022

- U21 players (born in 2001 and later)
- time spent in official games only (WC qualifiers, NL qualifiers, WCfinals)
- only top 8 European teams as per the World-ELO ranking (FRA-NED-POR-ESP-ITA-ENG-GER-CRO)


based on time spent on the pitch (in minutes)


Jude BELLINGHAM - Winner
MC, 2003, Dortmund & England (22 caps)
Career: Birmingham - Dortmund (2020)
Title:
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2021
Image


Josko GVARDIOL
DC, 2002, Leipzig & Croatia (19 caps)
Career: Dinamo Zagreb - Leipzig (2021)
Titles:
- Champion of Croatia 2020 & 2021
Image


Jurriën TIMBER
DC, 2001, Ajax & Netherlands (14 caps)
Career: Ajax (2020)
Titles:
- Champion of the Netherlands 2021 & 2022
- Winner of the KNVB Beker 2021
- (youth) Winner of the U17 Euro 2018
Image


GAVI
MC, 2004, Barcelona & Spain (17 caps)
Career: Barcelona (2021)
Image


Bukayo SAKA
FWR, 2001, Arsenal & England (24 caps)
Career: Arsenal (2018)
Title:
- Winner of the FA Cup 2020
Image


547 mn - Jamal Musiala - MC - 2003 - Bayern - Germany
456 mn - Pedri - MC - 2002 - Barcelona Spain
404 mn - Nuno Mendes - DL - 2002 - Paris - Portugal
351 mn - William Saliba - DC - 2001 - Arsenal - France
326 mn - Wilfried Gnonto - FW - 2003 - Leeds - Italy
etc.


Previous winners
2021 - Ferran Torres (Spain)
2020 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Italy)
2019 - Matthijs de Ligt (Netherlands)
2018 - Kylian Mbappé (France)
2017 - Denis Zakaria (Switzerland)
2016 - Joshua Kimmich (Germany)
2015 - Memphis Depay (Netherlands)
2014 - Divock Origi (Belgium)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Belgium)
2012 - Jetro Willems (Netherlands)
It's nice to have England back in play here, and at the perfect time, the end of the year. But you have not listed the minutes for the top five.

First time an Englishman has won it! :up:
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Lorric wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:59
Lyonnais wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 Young players in top European National Teams


Final ranking 2022

- U21 players (born in 2001 and later)
- time spent in official games only (WC qualifiers, NL qualifiers, WCfinals)
- only top 8 European teams as per the World-ELO ranking (FRA-NED-POR-ESP-ITA-ENG-GER-CRO)


based on time spent on the pitch (in minutes)


Jude BELLINGHAM - Winner
MC, 2003, Dortmund & England (22 caps)
Career: Birmingham - Dortmund (2020)
Title:
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2021
Image


Josko GVARDIOL
DC, 2002, Leipzig & Croatia (19 caps)
Career: Dinamo Zagreb - Leipzig (2021)
Titles:
- Champion of Croatia 2020 & 2021
Image


Jurriën TIMBER
DC, 2001, Ajax & Netherlands (14 caps)
Career: Ajax (2020)
Titles:
- Champion of the Netherlands 2021 & 2022
- Winner of the KNVB Beker 2021
- (youth) Winner of the U17 Euro 2018
Image


GAVI
MC, 2004, Barcelona & Spain (17 caps)
Career: Barcelona (2021)
Image


Bukayo SAKA
FWR, 2001, Arsenal & England (24 caps)
Career: Arsenal (2018)
Title:
- Winner of the FA Cup 2020
Image


547 mn - Jamal Musiala - MC - 2003 - Bayern - Germany
456 mn - Pedri - MC - 2002 - Barcelona Spain
404 mn - Nuno Mendes - DL - 2002 - Paris - Portugal
351 mn - William Saliba - DC - 2001 - Arsenal - France
326 mn - Wilfried Gnonto - FW - 2003 - Leeds - Italy
etc.


Previous winners
2021 - Ferran Torres (Spain)
2020 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Italy)
2019 - Matthijs de Ligt (Netherlands)
2018 - Kylian Mbappé (France)
2017 - Denis Zakaria (Switzerland)
2016 - Joshua Kimmich (Germany)
2015 - Memphis Depay (Netherlands)
2014 - Divock Origi (Belgium)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Belgium)
2012 - Jetro Willems (Netherlands)
It's nice to have England back in play here, and at the perfect time, the end of the year. But you have not listed the minutes for the top five.

First time an Englishman has won it! :up:
Who's ranking is this?
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 14:55
Lorric wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:59
Lyonnais wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 Young players in top European National Teams


Final ranking 2022

- U21 players (born in 2001 and later)
- time spent in official games only (WC qualifiers, NL qualifiers, WCfinals)
- only top 8 European teams as per the World-ELO ranking (FRA-NED-POR-ESP-ITA-ENG-GER-CRO)


based on time spent on the pitch (in minutes)


Jude BELLINGHAM - Winner
MC, 2003, Dortmund & England (22 caps)
Career: Birmingham - Dortmund (2020)
Title:
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2021
Image


Josko GVARDIOL
DC, 2002, Leipzig & Croatia (19 caps)
Career: Dinamo Zagreb - Leipzig (2021)
Titles:
- Champion of Croatia 2020 & 2021
Image


Jurriën TIMBER
DC, 2001, Ajax & Netherlands (14 caps)
Career: Ajax (2020)
Titles:
- Champion of the Netherlands 2021 & 2022
- Winner of the KNVB Beker 2021
- (youth) Winner of the U17 Euro 2018
Image


GAVI
MC, 2004, Barcelona & Spain (17 caps)
Career: Barcelona (2021)
Image


Bukayo SAKA
FWR, 2001, Arsenal & England (24 caps)
Career: Arsenal (2018)
Title:
- Winner of the FA Cup 2020
Image


547 mn - Jamal Musiala - MC - 2003 - Bayern - Germany
456 mn - Pedri - MC - 2002 - Barcelona Spain
404 mn - Nuno Mendes - DL - 2002 - Paris - Portugal
351 mn - William Saliba - DC - 2001 - Arsenal - France
326 mn - Wilfried Gnonto - FW - 2003 - Leeds - Italy
etc.


Previous winners
2021 - Ferran Torres (Spain)
2020 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Italy)
2019 - Matthijs de Ligt (Netherlands)
2018 - Kylian Mbappé (France)
2017 - Denis Zakaria (Switzerland)
2016 - Joshua Kimmich (Germany)
2015 - Memphis Depay (Netherlands)
2014 - Divock Origi (Belgium)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Belgium)
2012 - Jetro Willems (Netherlands)
It's nice to have England back in play here, and at the perfect time, the end of the year. But you have not listed the minutes for the top five.

First time an Englishman has won it! :up:
Who's ranking is this?
It's his personal one that he does. He has others in this thread.
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Lorric wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 19:42
Jackson Harrison wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 14:55
Lorric wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:59

It's nice to have England back in play here, and at the perfect time, the end of the year. But you have not listed the minutes for the top five.

First time an Englishman has won it! :up:
Who's ranking is this?
It's his personal one that he does. He has others in this thread.
@ Lorric did you recieve the latest statistical info I added to the Youth Football thread?
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Young players in the English Premier League

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch



Update after MD20

47 pts - Bukayo Saka - FWR - 21 - Arsenal - England
30 pts - Moises Caicedo - MC - 21 - Brighton - Ecuador
26 pts - Harvey Elliott - MC - 19 - Liverpool - England
22 pts - Anthony Elanga - AMR - 20 - Man United - Sweden
21 pts - Michael Olise - FWR - 20 - Crystal Palace - France
19 pts - Fabio Carvalho - ML - 20 - Liverpool - Portugal
18 pts - Amadou Onana - MC - 21 - Everton - Belgium
15 pts - Joe Gelhardt - FW - 20 - Leeds - England
15 pts - Gavin Bazunu - GK - 20 - Southampton - Ireland
13 pts - Alejandro Garnacho - AML - 18 - Man United - Argentina
etc.


Previous winners:
2022 - Bukayo Saka (Arsenal)
2021 - Phil Foden (Man City)
2020 - Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool)
2019 - Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool)
2018 - Gabriel Jesus (Man City)
2017 - Dele Alli (Tottenham)
2016 - Hector Bellerin (Arsenal)
2015 - Harry Kane (Tottenham)
2014 - Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
2013 - Oscar (Chelsea)
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Young players in the French Ligue 1

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch


Update after MD20

33 pts - Adrien Truffert - DL - 21 - Rennes - France
30 pts - Folarin Balogun - FW - 21 - Reims - England
26 pts - Nuno Mendes - DML - 20 - Paris SG - Portugal
26 pts - Fares Chaibi - FWR - 20 - Toulouse - France
25 pts - Arnaud Kalimuendo - FW - 21 - Rennes - France
25 pts - Castello Lukeba - DC - 20 - Lyon - France
24 pts - Lucas Chevalier - GK - 21 - Lille - France
22 pts - Kamory Doumbia - AMC - 19 - Reims - Mali
22 pts - Johann Lepenant - MC - 20 - Lyon - France
21 pts - Désiré Doué - MC - 17 - Rennes - France
etc.


Previous winners:
2022 - William Saliba (Marseille)
2021 - Sven Botman (Lille)
2020 - Boubacar Kamara (Marseille)
2019 - Kylian Mbappé (Paris SG)
2018 - Lucas Tousart (Lyon)
2017 - Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
2016 - Vincent Koziello (Nice)
2015 - Samuel Umtiti (Lyon)
2014 - Lucas (Paris SG)
2013 - Timothée Kolodziejczak (Nice)
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Young players in the Italian Serie A

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch


Update after MD20

29 pts - Rasmus Hojlund - FW - 19 - Atalanta - Denmark
27 pts - Giorgio Scalvini - DC - 19 - Atalanta - Italy
26 pts - Lazar Samardzic - MC - 20 - Udinese - Germany
26 pts - Destiny Udogie - DML - 20 - Udinese - Italy
24 pts - Joan Gonzalez - MC - 20 - Lecce - Spain
23 pts - Samuele Ricci - MC - 21 - Torino - Italy
21 pts - Caleb Okoli - DC - 21 - Atalanta - Nigeria
21 pts - Nicola Zalewski - DML - 21 - Roma - Poland
20 pts - Tomasso Baldanzi - AMC - 19 - Empoli - Italy
19 pts - Nicolo Rovella - MC - 21 - Monza - Italy
etc.


Previous winners:
2022 - Destiny Udogie (Udinese)
2021 - Dejan Kulusevski (Juvbentus)
2020 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan)
2019 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan)
2018 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan)
2017 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan)
2016 - Alessio Romagnoli (Milan)
2015 - Mateo Kovacic (Inter)
2014 - Paul Pogba (Juventus)
2013 - Stephan El Shaarawy (Milan)
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Young players in the Spanish Liga

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch


Update after MD20

53 pts - Gavi - MC - 18 - Barcelona - Spain
50 pts - Pedri - MC - 20 - Barcelona - Spain
40 pts - Alejandro Balde - DL - 19 - Barcelona - Spain
38 pts - Ansu Fati - FWL - 20 - Barcelona - Spain
32 pts - Nico Williams - AMR - 20 - Athletic - Spain
31 pts - Eduardo Camavinga - MC - 20 - Real Madrid - France
26 pts - Alex Baena - MC - 21 - Villarreal - Spain
25 pts - Yeremi Pino - MR - 20 - Villarreal - Spain
22 pts - Aimar Oroz - MC - 21 - Osasuna - Spain
20 pts - Miguel Gutierez - DL - 21 - Girona - Spain
etc


Previous winners:
2022 - Vinicius Junior (Real Madrid)
2021 - Pedri (Barcelona)
2020 - Federico Valverde (Real Madrid)
2019 - Oscar Melendo (Espanyol)
2018 - Gonçalo Guedes (Valencia)
2017 - Mikel Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad)
2016 - Saul Niguez (Atlético)
2015 - José Gaya (Valencia)
2014 - Aymeric Laporte (Athletic)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Atlético)
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Lyonnais wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:06 Young players in the Spanish Liga

- born after 30/06/01 (U21 at the start of the season)
- based on points won by their teams when they are on the pitch


Update after MD20

53 pts - Gavi - MC - 18 - Barcelona - Spain
50 pts - Pedri - MC - 20 - Barcelona - Spain
40 pts - Alejandro Balde - DL - 19 - Barcelona - Spain
38 pts - Ansu Fati - FWL - 20 - Barcelona - Spain
32 pts - Nico Williams - AMR - 20 - Athletic - Spain
31 pts - Eduardo Camavinga - MC - 20 - Real Madrid - France
26 pts - Alex Baena - MC - 21 - Villarreal - Spain
25 pts - Yeremi Pino - MR - 20 - Villarreal - Spain
22 pts - Aimar Oroz - MC - 21 - Osasuna - Spain
20 pts - Miguel Gutierez - DL - 21 - Girona - Spain
etc


Previous winners:
2022 - Vinicius Junior (Real Madrid)
2021 - Pedri (Barcelona)
2020 - Federico Valverde (Real Madrid)
2019 - Oscar Melendo (Espanyol)
2018 - Gonçalo Guedes (Valencia)
2017 - Mikel Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad)
2016 - Saul Niguez (Atlético)
2015 - José Gaya (Valencia)
2014 - Aymeric Laporte (Athletic)
2013 - Thibaut Courtois (Atlético)
Luvvit, Lyonnais :!: Surprised to find Gavi ahead of Pedri. Answer me a question if you please--is the player "Baldé" or "Balde" :?: Have seen it both ways, and there is another player who is definitely "Balde."
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AlanK wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 14:21 Luvvit, Lyonnais :!: Surprised to find Gavi ahead of Pedri. Answer me a question if you please--is the player "Baldé" or "Balde" :?: Have seen it both ways, and there is another player who is definitely "Balde."
Hi Alan,

Gavi/Pedri, it is purely statistical (as far as as I am concerned, although Gavi looks like very interesting, I believe that Pedri has much more impact)

Baldé or Balde: I have to admit that i wrote it in the French way (with the accent). Very quick research on the net, it seems that most spanish media write it without the accent, so I'll do it accordingly.
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Lyonnais wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:09
AlanK wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 14:21 Luvvit, Lyonnais :!: Surprised to find Gavi ahead of Pedri. Answer me a question if you please--is the player "Baldé" or "Balde" :?: Have seen it both ways, and there is another player who is definitely "Balde."
Hi Alan,

Gavi/Pedri, it is purely statistical (as far as as I am concerned, although Gavi looks like very interesting, I believe that Pedri has much more impact)

Baldé or Balde: I have to admit that i wrote it in the French way (with the accent). Very quick research on the net, it seems that most spanish media write it without the accent, so I'll do it accordingly.
Thanx and a tip o' the hat :!:
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