UEFA Women's Euro Switzerland 2025

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The regulations have been approved: https://documents.uefa.com/search/docum ... lang=en-GB

Interestingly the UNL Final 4 will be played in different countries with host decided by a draw!
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2023 calendar

https://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/ ... -calendar/

2 May: UEFA Women's Nations League draw (league phase)
20–22 September: UEFA Women's Nations League Matchday 1
23–26 September: UEFA Women's Nations League Matchday 2
25–27 October: UEFA Women's Nations League Matchday 3
28–31 October: UEFA Women's Nations League Matchday 4
29 November–1 December: UEFA Women's Nations League Matchday 5
2–5 December: UEFA Women's Nations League Matchday 6
11 December: UEFA Women's Nations League finals draw (tbc)
11 December: UEFA Women's Nations League promotion/relegation draw (tbc)
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Great to see England on top of the mountain in the seedings! :bouncy:
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Lorric wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 13:36 Great to see England on top of the mountain in the seedings! :bouncy:
Indeed but it is precedent to see the defending title holder on top for qualifiers and final tournament draw!

What do you think of the NL final 4 format?
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 14:09
Lorric wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 13:36 Great to see England on top of the mountain in the seedings! :bouncy:
Indeed but it is precedent to see the defending title holder on top for qualifiers and final tournament draw!

What do you think of the NL final 4 format?
I suppose having a home team in all four matches (two semi-finals, third place match, final) will be better in terms of attendance. If they had used the men’s Nations League format of choosing one host country from the four semi-finalists to host all four matches, the two matches which do not involve the host country would most likely have low attendance.
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amenina wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 16:12
Jackson Harrison wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 14:09
Lorric wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 13:36 Great to see England on top of the mountain in the seedings! :bouncy:
Indeed but it is precedent to see the defending title holder on top for qualifiers and final tournament draw!

What do you think of the NL final 4 format?
I suppose having a home team in all four matches (two semi-finals, third place match, final) will be better in terms of attendance. If they had used the men’s Nations League format of choosing one host country from the four semi-finalists to host all four matches, the two matches which do not involve the host country would most likely have low attendance.
I'd turn up if England hosted. Enjoyed watching matches at Euros watched 3 non England matches as well as opening on OT and SF in Sheffield. Also saw 2 group games and a QF!
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 16:16
amenina wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 16:12
Jackson Harrison wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 14:09

Indeed but it is precedent to see the defending title holder on top for qualifiers and final tournament draw!

What do you think of the NL final 4 format?
I suppose having a home team in all four matches (two semi-finals, third place match, final) will be better in terms of attendance. If they had used the men’s Nations League format of choosing one host country from the four semi-finalists to host all four matches, the two matches which do not involve the host country would most likely have low attendance.
I'd turn up if England hosted. Enjoyed watching matches at Euros watched 3 non England matches as well as opening on OT and SF in Sheffield. Also saw 2 group games and a QF!
Yes but the reality is that not enough people will turn up, and the atmosphere would most likely not be good.

I actually checked the attendance of the men’s Nations League matches which do not involve the host country, and the attendance numbers were also somewhat disappointing.

2019 SF: Netherlands vs England: 25,711
2019 3P: Switzerland vs England: 15,742
2021 SF: Belgium vs France: 12,409
2021 F: Spain vs France: 31,511

If those matches were hosted by England and France at Wembley and Stade de France, you will get a much higher attendance number.
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amenina wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 16:34
Jackson Harrison wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 16:16
amenina wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 16:12

I suppose having a home team in all four matches (two semi-finals, third place match, final) will be better in terms of attendance. If they had used the men’s Nations League format of choosing one host country from the four semi-finalists to host all four matches, the two matches which do not involve the host country would most likely have low attendance.
I'd turn up if England hosted. Enjoyed watching matches at Euros watched 3 non England matches as well as opening on OT and SF in Sheffield. Also saw 2 group games and a QF!
Yes but the reality is that not enough people will turn up, and the atmosphere would most likely not be good.

I actually checked the attendance of the men’s Nations League matches which do not involve the host country, and the attendance numbers were also somewhat disappointing.

2019 SF: Netherlands vs England: 25,711
2019 3P: Switzerland vs England: 15,742
2021 SF: Belgium vs France: 12,409
2021 F: Spain vs France: 31,511

If those matches were hosted by England and France at Wembley and Stade de France, you will get a much higher attendance number.
The 2021 figures aren't comparable because attendance was limited at 50% because of Coronavirus!

If England hosted, you could use a large stadium like OT or Wembley for England matches and a smaller stadium like Brentford or Rotherham for non England Matches. Saying that the NED/FRA QF wasn't that full it was a 'sell out' but not full there was loads of empty seats as they gave loads to sponsors apparently.
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So let's take a look at our Leagues:

Assumptions:
-Russia is still suspended by FIFA.
-All 51 remaining ranked teams participate.

League A:
Pot 1: England, Germany, France, Sweden (ironically the final four at Euro 2022)
Pot 2: Spain, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark
Pot 3: Italy, Belgium, Austria, Iceland
Pot 4: Switzerland, Wales, Portugal, Scotland

League B:
Pot 1: Republic of Ireland, Poland, Czechia, Finland
Pot 2: Serbia, Slovenia, Northern Ireland, Romania
Pot 3: Ukraine, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovakia, Hungary
Pot 4: Greece, Croatia, Belarus, Albania

League C:
Pot 1: Malta, Israel, Azerbaijan, Türkiye, North Macedonia
Pot 2: Kosovo, Montenegro, Luxembourg, Estonia, Moldova
Pot 3: Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Bulgaria, Cyprus
Pot 4: Faroe Islands, Georgia, Armenia, Andorra

Have heard roumers San Marino are launching a women's team so IDK if they'll be taking part, will have to wait and see.

Draw is on May 2nd in Lausanne. It's at lunchtime on a Tuesday when the workers are working and children are at school. They would never do that for a men's draw they do it on a Sunday morning or on an evening.
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 19:54 Have heard roumers San Marino are launching a women's team so IDK if they'll be taking part, will have to wait and see.
Both Gibraltar and Liechtenstein have a team playing in the U19 Women Euro qualifiers (but not San Marino), so it is possible that they enter the senior women’s tournament some time in the future.

If there are more than 52 teams entering, then they have to add another group in League B or League C.
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amenina wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 21:23
Jackson Harrison wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 19:54 Have heard roumers San Marino are launching a women's team so IDK if they'll be taking part, will have to wait and see.
Both Gibraltar and Liechtenstein have a team playing in the U19 Women Euro qualifiers (but not San Marino), so it is possible that they enter the senior women’s tournament some time in the future.

If there are more than 52 teams entering, then they have to add another group in League B or League C.
If they enter then League 6 will have 3 groups of 4 and 3 groups of 3. If San Marino also enter it'll be 4*4 2*3. That would mess up PO for promotion and eventually Euro wouldn't it!
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 22:33
amenina wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 21:23
Jackson Harrison wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 19:54 Have heard roumers San Marino are launching a women's team so IDK if they'll be taking part, will have to wait and see.
Both Gibraltar and Liechtenstein have a team playing in the U19 Women Euro qualifiers (but not San Marino), so it is possible that they enter the senior women’s tournament some time in the future.

If there are more than 52 teams entering, then they have to add another group in League B or League C.
If they enter then League 6 will have 3 groups of 4 and 3 groups of 3. If San Marino also enter it'll be 4*4 2*3. That would mess up PO for promotion and eventually Euro wouldn't it!
If there are more than 52 teams entering, then most likely UEFA will add another group in League C, so there will be six groups.

So for promotion/relegation, the six group winners of League C will be promoted, while the four fourth-placed teams and two worst third-placed teams of League B will be relegated.

For the UEFA Nations League phase, the two best second-placed teams of League C will play against the two best third-placed teams of League B in the promotion/relegation play-offs.

For the European qualifiers phase, the six group winners and two best third-placed teams of League C will play against the four third-placed teams and four fourth-placed teams of League A in the round 1 play-offs.
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amenina wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 15:02
Jackson Harrison wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 22:33
amenina wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 21:23

Both Gibraltar and Liechtenstein have a team playing in the U19 Women Euro qualifiers (but not San Marino), so it is possible that they enter the senior women’s tournament some time in the future.

If there are more than 52 teams entering, then they have to add another group in League B or League C.
If they enter then League 6 will have 3 groups of 4 and 3 groups of 3. If San Marino also enter it'll be 4*4 2*3. That would mess up PO for promotion and eventually Euro wouldn't it!
If there are more than 52 teams entering, then most likely UEFA will add another group in League C, so there will be six groups.

So for promotion/relegation, the six group winners of League C will be promoted, while the four fourth-placed teams and two worst third-placed teams of League B will be relegated.

For the UEFA Nations League phase, the two best second-placed teams of League C will play against the two best third-placed teams of League B in the promotion/relegation play-offs.

For the European qualifiers phase, the six group winners and two best third-placed teams of League C will play against the four third-placed teams and four fourth-placed teams of League A in the round 1 play-offs.
That's what I thought! UEFA do like to keep us on our toes lol.

So FT seeding is based on QGS ranking, looks like Coefficient will only be used for NL draw at the start of cycle! So they next coefficient ranking list will be out in 2025 for 25-27 WC cycle!
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 15:11
amenina wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 15:02
Jackson Harrison wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 22:33

If they enter then League 6 will have 3 groups of 4 and 3 groups of 3. If San Marino also enter it'll be 4*4 2*3. That would mess up PO for promotion and eventually Euro wouldn't it!
If there are more than 52 teams entering, then most likely UEFA will add another group in League C, so there will be six groups.

So for promotion/relegation, the six group winners of League C will be promoted, while the four fourth-placed teams and two worst third-placed teams of League B will be relegated.

For the UEFA Nations League phase, the two best second-placed teams of League C will play against the two best third-placed teams of League B in the promotion/relegation play-offs.

For the European qualifiers phase, the six group winners and two best third-placed teams of League C will play against the four third-placed teams and four fourth-placed teams of League A in the round 1 play-offs.
That's what I thought! UEFA do like to keep us on our toes lol.

So FT seeding is based on QGS ranking, looks like Coefficient will only be used for NL draw at the start of cycle! So they next coefficient ranking list will be out in 2025 for 25-27 WC cycle!
Or they will abandon coefficients like in men's NT and use the European Qualifiers ranking to seed the Nations League in the WC cycle.
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TommyChat wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 14:04
Jackson Harrison wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 15:11
amenina wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 15:02

If there are more than 52 teams entering, then most likely UEFA will add another group in League C, so there will be six groups.

So for promotion/relegation, the six group winners of League C will be promoted, while the four fourth-placed teams and two worst third-placed teams of League B will be relegated.

For the UEFA Nations League phase, the two best second-placed teams of League C will play against the two best third-placed teams of League B in the promotion/relegation play-offs.

For the European qualifiers phase, the six group winners and two best third-placed teams of League C will play against the four third-placed teams and four fourth-placed teams of League A in the round 1 play-offs.
That's what I thought! UEFA do like to keep us on our toes lol.

So FT seeding is based on QGS ranking, looks like Coefficient will only be used for NL draw at the start of cycle! So they next coefficient ranking list will be out in 2025 for 25-27 WC cycle!
Or they will abandon coefficients like in men's NT and use the European Qualifiers ranking to seed the Nations League in the WC cycle.
No please!

I hate how UEFA have seeded Euro Qualifiers on just one NL, it should be an average of previous 4 years.
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