Euro 2024 Group C: Slovenia - Denmark - Serbia - England

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Kane's won so many free kicks in this game. :applause:
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Worst match of the 7 so far, Serbia was worse and deservely lost without coming close to scoring for a really long time.
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England don't look anywhere near capable of winning the tournament based on today's game, very lucky to win 1-0
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Pheeeeeew. We win. I'll be interested to see how Serbia do against the other two, they fought us to a standstill. Really unusual to see that in a game, normally someone will eventually win such a battle, or you'll get periods where someone gets on top but it was just in the balance all the way with neither side yielding an inch. Serbia will rue not starting out with that gameplan. Maybe Iceland did us a massive favour.
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Any questions of England commitment after Iceland certainly got answered here, they were up for the fight. This game reminded me of the 1-0 win over Slovenia at the 2010 World Cup. Fairly early England goal, and required this kind of battling through the rest of the game to get the win.
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Another disappointment from Serbia. First half was very poor, passing mostly backwards. They said going to follow the blueprint from Iceland and attack...They've improved in the 2nd half, but the English were already in parking the bus mode, a stronger team could easily level, but not Serbia. Mitrovic should have gotten a penalty when Trippier pushed him down with both hands from behind. England didn't look like champions in the 2nd half, Serbia missed a great opportunity to start with a bang.
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Disappointing Denmark yesterday. :upset:

Actually it's not just yesterday, they've been disappointing for a long time.

It started at the 2022 World Cup where they had their worst ever participation and couldn't win a single game.

It continued in the Euro 2024 qualifiers where they lost 8 points in a group with Slovenia, Finland, Kazakhstan, Northern Ireland and San Marino.

It's not just the final result that's disappointing, it's also the way that they play.

What's the point of having Skov Olsen, Damsgaard, Dreyer and Bruun Larsen and then don't use any of them? :confused:

Kasper Hjulmand started with a cautious plan, it looked like he was using this match to already prepare the next one or next two.

This was "just" Slovenia, there was no need for 5 defenders + 2 defensive midfielders!

Then he didn't replace anyone until Slovenia's equalizer.

And when he finally did, it was just player by player changes, 1 left back for another, 2 strikers for another 2, and 2 defensive midfielders for another 2.

Lorric wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 19:52 Ha ha. Shortest substitutions time on the field ever. Two guys come on for Slovenia then the referee blows up almost immediately when play restarts. 1-1 FT.
Yes, Matjaz Kek used two substitutions in the last seconds to "waste time". That was much smarter than Kasper Hjulmand's entire plan for the match, substitutions included.
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In practice, a very balanced group. Two matches in which each team was better for one half. Denmark-Slovenia a realistic result, and good luck to the English to victory in a tied match. The referee damaged Serbia for a clean penalty! :umnik:
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Congratulations England! :applause:
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This was the most defensive match in the tournament so far, only 11 shots (5 for England and 6 for Serbia) and only 4 shots on goal (3 for England and 1 for Serbia).

England started the Euros with a win for only the second time in its history, the other was in Euro 2020, where they also won 1-0 against Croatia.
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Hoopy wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 22:56 England don't look anywhere near capable of winning the tournament based on today's game, very lucky to win 1-0
England is much weaker than at the last European Championship 3 years ago and is not among the Top 4 favorites. The English are the first favorites only at bookmakers and that's because they bet the most. :D :D :D
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Good luck to England! Looking forward to the match against the Danes!
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A win is a win in the end. Just remember how Argentina started in the last WC. And they struggled at every game except vs Croatia anyway. And the ones who dominated some games at the beginnings fell at the first real hurdle.
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babaluj1 wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 09:26 In practice, a very balanced group. Two matches in which each team was better for one half. Denmark-Slovenia a realistic result, and good luck to the English to victory in a tied match. The referee damaged Serbia for a clean penalty! :umnik:
What penalty? You are delusional.
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Dragonite wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:26 England started the Euros with a win for only the second time in its history, the other was in Euro 2020, where they also won 1-0 against Croatia.
Opening wins in tournaments were so rare before Southgate. He's 4/4 so far.
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The criticism against Hjulmand has reached new heights in Denmark after the disappointing start, and then afterwards his insistence that Denmark did not drop in level in the second half and that it wasn't a mistake to make his substitutions unusually late.

I think the Danish formation will likely be quite similar to the opening match. With Bellingham so prominent for England, and some problems in the coordination between the Danish defence and midfield, however, there is the possibility of a change. Either going to a 4-3-3 with an outright 6er to help contain Bellingham, or continuing the 3-5-2 but with a more defined 6 and two 8s instead. If it's the latter, it could be just Hjulmand or Højbjerg taking that position. If it's a 4-3-3, it would be bigger changes. Likely Christensen in defensive midfield behind Højbjerg and Hjulmand, and then perhaps with Eriksen out left and Skov Olsen out right. But I think keeping the 3-5-2 is more likely.

In terms of the wingbacks, it is quite tight between the three. I think it will be Kristiansen on the left, and then Mæhle on the right, but Bah could as well start.
As I believe in the 3-5-2, I think the player choices will otherwise be the same. Maybe an outside chance Yussuf Poulsen could start instead of Wind as he is a better pressing player and more mobile in a game, where we probably will be playing more on the counter.
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