Euro 2024 Group D: Poland - Netherlands - Austria - France

[matt]

I really dislike the trend of passing, passing, passing and passing the ball no matter what instead of shooting when there is a good opportunity.
One of the most annoying thing in modern football.

[Oldelpaso]

Good to see SPENGE on the far side. Its not a proper international tournament until you see the Spenge banner.

[Sagy]

I really dislike the trend of passing, passing, passing and passing the ball no matter what instead of shooting when there is a good opportunity.
One of the most annoying thing in modern football.

Total agreement. Tiki-taka worked well for some teams so “everyone” is trying to copy it without the players to do it. Worse, even when performed well, it’s annoying as a fan.

[BurningStorm]

He stands right at the keeper and distracted him while being offside. I saw it directly. Surprised that the check was so long.

@matt I agree

@Oldelpaso Yes. Same goes for Halle/S. and Goltern

[Witkop1983]

It is hard winning against 12 men... Goalkeeper could never have reached the ball and Dumfries is not moving so not influencing the game

[Lorric]

Don't know why it took so long. Keeper can't dive through the offside guy.

[Michael S Collins]

English refs gonna English ref var.

[BurningStorm]

Both teams know they are basically through with a point, as four points are always enough in this mode. Group win or 2nd place doesn't matter in this case, even the runner-up of this group gets a very good path. Only getting the 3rd place is a small risk and should be avoided on MD3.

[Witkop1983]

Poland the first team to be eliminated from the tournament...

[mavano]

BBC having a great analysis on the disallowed goal. The keeper was never getting to the ball because of his position and his form. He wasn’t prevented from playing the ball which he should be for the for the rule to be applied.

[Sagy]

It is hard winning against 12 men... Goalkeeper could never have reached the ball and Dumfries is not moving so not influencing the game

Makes no difference if the GK could or couldn’t reach the ball. Since the attacker was in an offside position when the ball was kicked, all that needs to be determined is if he interfered/distracted the GK.

[Lorric]

They did some interesting analysis about the disallowed goal after, they point out that the movements of the keeper, he can't physically dive at the point the ball is struck and would not be able to reach it by the time he can. They think the goal should stand.

In general I think they penalise when someone is in the wrong position regardless of this kind of circumstance. After all, his presence could have influenced the goalkeeper's actions. But now I think I'm in a position where I wouldn't have minded either decision.

[BurningStorm]

There is a realistic chance that the keeper can reach the ball, that's enough to cancel the goal. In the angle behind the keeper you can see that he makes a step already, so he reacts. And a jump wasn't possible because of the Dutch player next to him. Annoying for the Netherlands, no question, but for me the rules are clear.

A former Bundesliga referee said the same on German tv.

[Witkop1983]

It is hard winning against 12 men... Goalkeeper could never have reached the ball and Dumfries is not moving so not influencing the game

Makes no difference if the GK could or couldn’t reach the ball. Since the attacker was in an offside position when the ball was kicked, all that needs to be determined is if he interfered/distracted the GK.

Well, he didn't interfere as the GK could never ever reach the ball...

[Lyonnais]

The first 15 mn were interesting from both sides. Afterwards it was less interesting.

Overall I am quite satisfied with the performance of the team but we really have a problem of finishing.

At the end we missed a good chance to win the group tonight.
One can say that the 1st place doesn't matter as long as you get through but I think that the table is more open with the 1st place (Germany and Spain being on the other side of the table).