Euro 2024 Group C: Slovenia - Denmark - Serbia - England

[Lorric]

Maybe two and a half weeks from now, Portugal 2016 won‘t be any longer in the history books for most undeserving winner ever.

Oh come on. If we win, we already surpassed Portugal by beating someone in the group stage!

Should have a harder road on paper to the trophy too.

[greenbay]

… the dream I had last night … Kane scored two early goals,

You know, there are doctors for that. Or was it two penalties?

[Lorric]

… the dream I had last night … Kane scored two early goals,

You know, there are doctors for that. Or was it two penalties?

I already described one. The other wasn't a penalty.

[Dragonite]

Worse than not winning is not even trying to win!!

Serbia had ONE SHOT ON GOAL in 90'!!!


In the first 45' they had ZERO SHOTS ON GOAL!!


What was Dragan Stojkovic's plan for this match?

"Let's defend for 45' and then in the last 45' we'll try to win the match"?!


I would have more respect for Serbia if they actually tried to win the match and ended up losing heavily.

[Dragonite]

@Dragonite it's just most people don't care about Serbia whereas England is in the spotlight because of their players that are worth chillions of pounds.

That's part of the problem, isn't it?

They don't know the opponents

They make the assumption that everything that they don't know is worthless

And they conclude that the "heroes" that they know will prevail against the "zeros" that they don't


And when that doesn't happen they don't even consider the possibility that their premises were wrong, of course not!

It must be the manager's fault, that can't make their wishes become true!



The way I see it, England isn't significantly more "talented" than Denmark or Serbia. They won the group because Southgate was better managing the players at his disposal than Hjulmand or Stojkovic.


Of course that he made mistakes too, but it's shocking to see how he's attacked while I can't find a single negative comment about Hjulmand or Stojkovic!!!

[Lorric]

@Dragonite it's just most people don't care about Serbia whereas England is in the spotlight because of their players that are worth chillions of pounds.

That's part of the problem, isn't it?

They don't know the opponents

They make the assumption that everything that they don't know is worthless

And they conclude that the "heroes" that they know will prevail against the "zeros" that they don't


And when that doesn't happen they don't even consider the possibility that their premises were wrong, of course not!

It must be the manager's fault, that can't make their wishes become true!



The way I see it, England isn't significantly more "talented" than Denmark or Serbia. They won the group because Southgate was better managing the players at his disposal than Hjulmand or Stojkovic.


Of course that he made mistakes too, but it's shocking to see how he's attacked while I can't find a single negative comment about Hjulmand or Stojkovic!!!

I do find it hard to pinpoint anything specific to attack Southgate with. And I do think the opposition have made things difficult for us. We won the first game and deserved to. Southgate didn't tell England to go out and have an error strewn performance against Denmark. We attacked Slovenia throughout and fed attacking substitutions in with plenty of time to effect the game. Denmark is the only game I had a real issue with England's performance. Though I know we can play better, it's not easy for a team to hit it's peak. Slovenia was an improvement. Here's hoping for another one.

[sinskras]

Maybe Serbia's plan was following: England will surely win Slovenia 2:0 or something, so a draw will be enough to take 3rd place, Georgia and Czechia will surely lose their last games, so 2 points and —1 goal difference will enough to qualify. Let's defend 0:0! When they realized England is not going to win, it was too late.

[seso]

It was very interesting how Denmark and Slovenia managed 3 draws, scored 2 goals and qualified to the L16!

[Lorric]

It was very interesting how Denmark and Slovenia managed 3 draws, scored 2 goals and qualified to the L16!

In both this group and the qualifying group, these two finished with the same points, but Denmark had the tie break.

[seso]

It was very interesting how Denmark and Slovenia managed 3 draws, scored 2 goals and qualified to the L16!

In both this group and the qualifying group, these two finished with the same points, but Denmark had the tie break.

Also, in both Group D and Qualifying Group B, France beat the Netherlands on points.

[rpo.castro]

Maybe two and a half weeks from now, Portugal 2016 won‘t be any longer in the history books for most undeserving winner ever.

Italy in 2021 already achieved that.

[Oldelpaso]

England P3 W1 D2 L0 F2 A1
Ireland P3 W0 D3 L0 F2 A2
Netherlands P3 W0 D3 L0 F2 A2
Egypt P3 W0 D2 L1 F1 A2

Look familiar? The dullest group in the dullest World Cup, 1990. England won the group having faced a lot of criticism for the tactics used, then took advantage of a kind draw to reach the semis. There, England played by far their best football of the tournament but were ultimately eliminated by West Germany on penalties. Thanks to that performance the team is fondly remembered despite what came before. The old adage that a team is as good as its last game. Does this England have a Gascoigne who can be a breakout star?

[Lorric]

England P3 W1 D2 L0 F2 A1
Ireland P3 W0 D3 L0 F2 A2
Netherlands P3 W0 D3 L0 F2 A2
Egypt P3 W0 D2 L1 F1 A2

Look familiar? The dullest group in the dullest World Cup, 1990. England won the group having faced a lot of criticism for the tactics used, then took advantage of a kind draw to reach the semis. There, England played by far their best football of the tournament but were ultimately eliminated by West Germany on penalties. Thanks to that performance the team is fondly remembered despite what came before. The old adage that a team is as good as its last game. Does this England have a Gascoigne who can be a breakout star?

It was actually reminding me more of the World Cup 2010 group. Supposed easy group again, Slovenia as final opponent again, 5pts again. If we'd finished 2nd it would even have been Germany in the last 16 again!

Just lighting up these tournaments in the group stage, aren't we! Like the glorious 1-0, 0-0, 1-0 at the last Euro on the way to the final!

[offside]

England P3 W1 D2 L0 F2 A1
Ireland P3 W0 D3 L0 F2 A2
Netherlands P3 W0 D3 L0 F2 A2
Egypt P3 W0 D2 L1 F1 A2

Look familiar? The dullest group in the dullest World Cup, 1990. England won the group having faced a lot of criticism for the tactics used, then took advantage of a kind draw to reach the semis. There, England played by far their best football of the tournament but were ultimately eliminated by West Germany on penalties. Thanks to that performance the team is fondly remembered despite what came before. The old adage that a team is as good as its last game. Does this England have a Gascoigne who can be a breakout star?

On paper, with Foden - Bellingham - Saka behind Kane, in the offensive phase this England is superior.
Likely Bellingham has the potential to be the breakout star.

[mspm89]

Maybe two and a half weeks from now, Portugal 2016 won‘t be any longer in the history books for most undeserving winner ever.

Italy in 2021 already achieved that.

Not even close.