You either don't know what F1 is and are just repeating what you read somewhere else, which I know isn't true or you are so blindsided that you refuse to accept the facts.Ricardo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 01:40Moving under breaking? He was not punished for that, he moves first and breakes then - no problemrpo.castro wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 00:01 @Ricardo Yes, I am one sided, right.
Max didn't 1 thing wrong, nor 2 things but 3: Moving under breaking, keeping position offtrack, forcing a driver offtrack causing a collision.
Lando Norris was divebomb? And so what? Its a legiti move. Its hard, risky but legal and legit contrasting with your fellow countryman.
If you take your Dutch gogles, you might learn something:
https://youtu.be/ER4_6N86M_U
Keeping position off track? He was not punished for that (and why, because Lando pushed him wide and he was so wise to go off track and avoid the collision
Causing a collision - yes he did
But Lando made more errors
Divebombs, oké, they are legal and wer not punished, it just set the way they battled - no problem
Pushing Max off/causing a collision. not punished, as Max went off track to avoid the collision and took his rightful place(as otherwise Lando would have been punished for it)
Going off track, Lando did that a couple of times and was eventually punished for it
So they both made mistakes, both fought harsh and did not control the car enough to give the other enough space. Open your eyes and see that Lando is a bit like Max who likes this harsh battles. It leads to collisions.
This wasn’t a one man cause incident, both took too much risk and wouldn’t give way to the other.
The video I shared I Jolyon Palmer's analysis for F1 tv released yesterday with several footage, from different angles including both onboards for each situation of the battle and its clear that
1) Max changes direction under breaking under time which should triggered a warning (moving under breaking is not a penalty right so) but could be penalized after 3 moves, if he was warned before which he should. And he explains hy moving under breaking is dangerous.
The onboard video of Max Verstappen is very clear that he was not pushed off track because he hit the gas way before Norris arrived. He knew that Norris would overtake him, and if follow the normal line he would be overtaken, and not pushed wide-like in previous situation he stayed on track while Norris went wide, so Norris had to give him back the position. No he knew this time he would definitely be overtaken for good, and Norris would leave because McLaren was quick with quicker tyres (mediums vs hards) so he just hit the gas and went wide on purpose without any reason besides cheating.
Not being penalized means he did nothing illegal? Maulybe I ll have to check your 2021 posts about Hamilton. I bet you said "Hamilton didn't get penalized so he didn't anything wrong". I bet I would do.
And we know that all drivers get same treatment like the 20s seconds for Ocon (by the same Johnny Herbert if I m not wrong).
I defended Verstappen a lot on the past when I thought he was right and he will keep doing the same. Same for Hamilton or any other driver. This time Verstappen screwed big time, there is no way from neutral point of view to deny it. Doesn't making lesser driver or human being (btw he is an amazing guy off track). Its just about his actions on this GP. He was wrong. Norris only he can be accused of is to be to anxious. He did nothing wrong in the overtakes attempts, when he failed he gave position back. His dive bombs overtake are just equals to the ones Max did 2019-2021, especially in Abu Dhabi 2021. Did you criticize those divebombs? If its good for the goose...
Just accept and quit behanving like a fanboy because its fun to discuss F1 with you but not when you behave like this and can get enough distance. I know how important he is in Netherlands but he is no God.