Battle for important ranking positions 2024-25

[seso]

Scottish football is an awful level.

Don't be like that! I really love that Scottish fans are so passionate about their football clubs; even small clubs have thousands of people watching their matches every week!

[Hoopy]

I'd be stunned if Kilmarnock or St. Mirren progress.

I saw a stat the other day that "the rest of Scotland" teams aside from Rangers and Celtic account for 20% of the co-efficient.

I was surprised it's that high but it's likely in part due to those clubs being dragged into their position as a result of Rangers (primarily) efforts in the last 5 or 6 years (and bonus points - do you get them for EL groups? - the likes of Hearts maybe got for group stages add to it all to some degree)

Celtic won't do much in the CL, Rangers likely won't even get there ending up in the EL again and I don't see either of the two mentioned teams above getting through this round. Hearts might do something in the ECL when they inevitably drop down from the EL qualifying.

Scottish football is an awful level.

You must be fun at parties

[Hoopy]

Scottish football is an awful level.

Don't be like that! I really love that Scottish fans are so passionate about their football clubs; even small clubs have thousands of people watching their matches every week!

It's the most watched league per head of population in Europe so they must be doing something right. Anyway we are going off topic so I'll not continue this line of conversation

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skyspo ... therlandsl

[seso]

It's the most watched league per head of population in Europe so they must be doing something right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skyspo ... therlandsl

[Greyn]

We were discussing about strength of Scottish clubs apart from Rangers and Celtic, so I don't see any relation here with attendances. Poland has one of the best stadiums across Europe, so should I say that we are European powerhouse in the club football? I guess if you don't have counter-arguments you simply try to change the topic of the discussion.

I can only agree that we are going off topic here, so I am also done in this discussion.

[babaluj1]

It's the most watched league per head of population in Europe so they must be doing something right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skyspo ... therlandsl

The most watched club in Europe per capita - Hajduk Split. Split has 160,000 inhabitants, and in the stadium against HB Thorshavn from the Faroe Islands in CO-QR2, the 30,000-seat stadium was sold out.

[seso]

The most watched club in Europe per capita - Hajduk Split. Split has 160,000 inhabitants, and in the stadium against HB Thorshavn from the Faroe Islands in CO-QR2, the 30,000-seat stadium was sold out.

This did not deter Pana from earning a valuable 1-1 in Split during 1995-96 CL-QR and qualify to CL-GS!

[Laudrup1]

Scottish football is an awful level.

Don't be like that! I really love that Scottish fans are so passionate about their football clubs; even small clubs have thousands of people watching their matches every week!

There's no doubring the passion. I'm there every other week at least.

The big two attendances are fantastic. For the size of country a few other teams aren't bad.

There is, however, no denying that the standard of football is really poor and the style is years behind a lot of Europe.

It's why teams with a reasonable budget like Hearts and Aberdeen usually underperform and Kilmarnock, Motherwell and St Mirren can be embarrassed by absolute minnows.

Pleasantly surprised to see Killie in the lead against Tromso just now though...

[Laudrup1]

Scottish football is an awful level.

You must be fun at parties

Realism, really. Isn't it?

The football on show is poor and the funding for it is grim.

The likes of Clarke ar National level sums alot of it up for me. It's turgid far too often.

[Hoopy]

Scottish football is an awful level.

You must be fun at parties

Realism, really. Isn't it?

The football on show is poor and the funding for it is grim.

The likes of Clarke ar National level sums alot of it up for me. It's turgid far too often.

I feel you're being overly critical, the national team came from nowhere to qualify for 2/3 tournaments. We'll see how the season pans out and revisit it at the end of the season? Don't want to stay off topic on this part of the forum.

As for the current Killie Score, Hearts beat Rosenberg last season and my Norwegian friend felt Killie were better than Tromso so I'm not as surprised as you are. He reckons Brann will beat st. Mirren tho which I agree with but you never know

[Michael S Collins]

It is same story every summer, every year. Scottish members of this forum (probably the only exception here is @Michael S Collins )refuse to face the reality that Scotland in Europe = Rangers and Celtic and that is it. Rest of Scottish clubs are simply of low quality in terms of the level of the European Cups. Still, every year Scottish members try to convince us that they are of decent quality and way better than they actually are in reality. Could you tell me when was the last time that a Scottish club, excluding Rangers and Celtic of course, did something remarkable in Europe? Maybe my memory doesn't serve, but I can't recall anything spectacular or memorable in this regard.

Aberdeen made the knock out rounds (post Christmas) in 2007-8, KOing FC Kobenhavn with a fine 4-0 performance, but lost 7-3 on aggregate to Bayern in the last 32.

As for Michael S Collins (whoever he is), I believe he realises the low experience and ability of the SPL teams, but always hopes for the best. Although St Mirren have already exceeded my expectations by adding a win to the Scottish coefficient! Problem is if European experience improves a team, we need a third team to consistently get into those groups. Aberdeen are not in Europe this season, and Hearts are in and out - no consistency equals no chance of improvement.

Currently "if only we could blood in a third European team" is the same as "if only Scotland had a striker"!

[Laudrup1]

You must be fun at parties

Realism, really. Isn't it?

The football on show is poor and the funding for it is grim.

The likes of Clarke ar National level sums alot of it up for me. It's turgid far too often.

I feel you're being overly critical, the national team came from nowhere to qualify for 2/3 tournaments. We'll see how the season pans out and revisit it at the end of the season? Don't want to stay off topic on this part of the forum.

As for the current Killie Score, Hearts beat Rosenberg last season and my Norwegian friend felt Killie were better than Tromso so I'm not as surprised as you are. He reckons Brann will beat st. Mirren tho which I agree with but you never know

The end of the Scottish European season in mid-October?

I hope they all do well. I just have seen far too many embarrassments to think it'll somehow be different

[Glimt1916]

We were discussing about strength of Scottish clubs apart from Rangers and Celtic, so I don't see any relation here with attendances. Poland has one of the best stadiums across Europe, so should I say that we are European powerhouse in the club football? I guess if you don't have counter-arguments you simply try to change the topic of the discussion.

I can only agree that we are going off topic here, so I am also done in this discussion.

Well Bodø/Glimt dominated Celtic. Our stadium houses about 8500, not often sold out in league games, and haven't been filled in the CL-qual either. City is 55.000, så not so strange..

Now Brann scored against St. Mirren! Wow!

[Hoopy]

We were discussing about strength of Scottish clubs apart from Rangers and Celtic, so I don't see any relation here with attendances. Poland has one of the best stadiums across Europe, so should I say that we are European powerhouse in the club football? I guess if you don't have counter-arguments you simply try to change the topic of the discussion.

I can only agree that we are going off topic here, so I am also done in this discussion.

Well Bodø/Glimt dominated Celtic. Our stadium houses about 8500, not often sold out in league games, and haven't been filled in the CL-qual either. City is 55.000, så not so strange..

Now Brann scored against St. Mirren! Wow!

You did and were very impressive in that game, I wanted your manager when Ange left. However that Celtic team were in the middle rebuild so although it wasn't expected it wasn't a surprise. Celtic actually got more points than rangers in the groups of the Europa league that year when Rangers made the final and Celtic won the league.

Also, St Mirren equalised since your post hut will probably still go out

[seso]

As for Michael S Collins (whoever he is), I believe he realises the low experience and ability of the SPL teams, but always hopes for the best. Although St Mirren have already exceeded my expectations by adding a win to the Scottish coefficient! Problem is if European experience improves a team, we need a third team to consistently get into those groups. Aberdeen are not in Europe this season, and Hearts are in and out - no consistency equals no chance of improvement.

We love Michael S Collins and his posts, whoever he is!