2024 Paris Olympics

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Boxing btw already is excluded from LA2028 :applause:
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anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 17:46 Boxing btw already is excluded from LA2028 :applause:
So is breakdancing :applause:
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anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 13:54 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... iling-golf I don't agree with everything but definitely Olympics now are too bloated. In my view for the chop should go boxing (corrupt to the core and best athletes not participating), horses, rhythmic gymnastics and artistic swimming (these are not sports at all), football (we all love it but again, best players not participating, not really an Olympic sport), golf (still a game for the rich, many other golf tournaments are more important than Olympics) and Greco-Roman wrestling (freestyle wrestling is a more entertaining version and that should be enough).
Yes to all of this but keep women's football.
anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 13:54 I would also think about reducing the number of events in rowing, track cycling (sorry UK and Netherlands), shooting and diving, really too many similar events. May be there are too many events also in swimming but swimming is one of two most popular Olympic sports, they will never chop events in swimming.
I agree about track cycling, it's such a niche sport to have 8-10 events. Rowing is getting reduced, the lighweight sculls are discontinued.

Diving is just solo and synchronized, 3m and 10m, men and women. 8 events, and no athelete can be in more than 2, I don't think it's too much.

Swimming like Athletics is super popular and enjoyable for TV audience indeed.
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anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 17:46 Boxing btw already is excluded from LA2028 :applause:
Personally I think Olympic boxing should go back to how it used to be, with points being scored for landing punches and a running count being maintained and the winner being the one who landed the most punches if it wasn't a KO.
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Lorric wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 20:07
anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 17:46 Boxing btw already is excluded from LA2028 :applause:
Personally I think Olympic boxing should go back to how it used to be, with points being scored for landing punches and a running count being maintained and the winner being the one who landed the most punches if it wasn't a KO.
It should not be in the Olympics until the Federation is purged of Russians.
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Swimming can lose some (switch) like track cycle can lose the Keirin, but what I find most ridiculous is that currently there is a EC beachvolleybal. Come on. No continental or world cups in an Olympic season……

Athletics - running could also lose 1 or 2 distances..

Tennis was not interesting, a few topplayers but lots of unknown who don’t play singles anymore
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anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 13:54 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... iling-golf I don't agree with everything but definitely Olympics now are too bloated. In my view for the chop should go boxing (corrupt to the core and best athletes not participating), horses, rhythmic gymnastics and artistic swimming (these are not sports at all), football (we all love it but again, best players not participating, not really an Olympic sport), golf (still a game for the rich, many other golf tournaments are more important than Olympics) and Greco-Roman wrestling (freestyle wrestling is a more entertaining version and that should be enough). I would also think about reducing the number of events in rowing, track cycling (sorry UK and Netherlands), shooting and diving, really too many similar events. May be there are too many events also in swimming but swimming is one of two most popular Olympic sports, they will never chop events in swimming.
Gulf, boxing, 3x3 basketball, horses, shooting, football, and no niche sports played only in a few countries like softball/baseball, flag football, lacrosse.
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men football could be chopped, but women football could stay and expand to 16 teams
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rpo.castro wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 01:45
anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 13:54 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... iling-golf I don't agree with everything but definitely Olympics now are too bloated. In my view for the chop should go boxing (corrupt to the core and best athletes not participating), horses, rhythmic gymnastics and artistic swimming (these are not sports at all), football (we all love it but again, best players not participating, not really an Olympic sport), golf (still a game for the rich, many other golf tournaments are more important than Olympics) and Greco-Roman wrestling (freestyle wrestling is a more entertaining version and that should be enough). I would also think about reducing the number of events in rowing, track cycling (sorry UK and Netherlands), shooting and diving, really too many similar events. May be there are too many events also in swimming but swimming is one of two most popular Olympic sports, they will never chop events in swimming.
Gulf, boxing, 3x3 basketball, horses, shooting, football, and no niche sports played only in a few countries like softball/baseball, flag football, lacrosse.
“softball/baseball, flag football, lacrosse” are all added for the 2028 Olympics. While I agree that they don’t belong, I think that they are all better than breakdancing or even boxing.

I would also be in favor of eliminating sports like Archery, Badminton, and Skateboarding. I’m not so sure about the value of so many cycling events, Greco-Roman wrestling and maybe even Table tennis.
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Sagy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 06:07 ...Greco-Roman wrestling and maybe even Table tennis.
I think Greco-Roman wrestling will never be excluded from the Olympics. It has been on the schedule for 2,800 years!
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Lorric wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 13:55 Same thing happened with the Commonwealth Games, Birmingham has a real shithole city reputation, but the Games made it look like a magnificent, beautiful, culture-rich city.
I went there a couple of times in the early 2000s on business. Even then it felt already like the English version of Gelsenkirchen. :p
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Sagy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 18:25
anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 17:46 Boxing btw already is excluded from LA2028 :applause:
So is breakdancing :applause:
Breakdancing was never included. Every host city can add an extra competiton or two. I‘m not eben sure if it‘s part of the medal count. LA 2028 will have baseball and softball.

And yes, they should remove all competitions in which not only the best compete, like men‘s football, golf, boxing.

And yes, there are some debatable sports like archery, shooting. How on Earth does anyone consider aiming at a bullseye Sports? What‘s next? Darts at the Olympics? Don‘t get me wrong, you need tons of practise to be a good shooter or a darts pro. But so does Chess. Still it‘s nothing that you need to bring your whole body to physical perfection like in track and field, swimming, rowing, gymnastics, wrestling, cycling etc.

And yes, some sports do really have an inflated number of events. Like (exaggerated) men‘s diving from the 3m Platform. Mens 5m. Mens 10m. Women 3m, 5m, 10m. Two men 3, 5, 10m. Two women, 3, 5, 10. Mixed 3, 5, 10.
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anty1975 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 17:46 Boxing btw already is excluded from LA2028 :applause:
No it isn’t. Yet.
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I'm not a baseball fan but it is the #1 sport in quite a lot of nations and especially a whole region that isn't represented a lot in the olympics as is. Baseball obviously brings the issue that mens football has, but there is some discussion that MLB will allow its players to compete. If they do, it most definitely belongs at the olympics. Baseball is a big deal in the USA, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and the Caribbean as a whole. But there is no European country in that list so we dismiss it as an irrelevant niche sport...

It's a bit of European arrogance to claim that handball belongs in the OG and baseball doesn't. Nobody outside of Europe gives a flying F about handball. You wan't to compare the worldwide viewing figures of the World Series against whatever champions league/cup Handball has? And even in Europe its popularity is regional. Why should such a niche sport exist at a worldwide event like the olympics? Go have your European championship and don't bother the rest of the world with it. And why are people using that argument against rowing, but not against handball?

Same with cricket T20. Isn't it fair that countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan finaly get to show their best athletes at the olympics? Why do we get our mostly European sports like handball, waterpolo and hockey. But cricket, which is watched by billions around the globe somehow isn't worthy... :down:
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never mind...
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