rpo.castro wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 00:05
If they create a superleague with 50 teams maybe
Are you so delusional?
If all North American professional leagues have 30 or more than 30 teams than Europe with more population surely can have a league with around 50 teams Eventually it will come to this though of course I don't know how much time it will take.
rpo.castro wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 00:05
If they create a superleague with 50 teams maybe
Are you so delusional?
If all North American professional leagues have 30 or more than 30 teams than Europe with more population surely can have a league with around 50 teams Eventually it will come to this though of course I don't know how much time it will take.
Superliga should start next season with 64 clubs in three leagues. Star and Gold leagues with 16 clubs each and Blue league with 32 clubs. A minimum of 14 matches per season would be played in groups of 8. There would certainly be room for clubs from smaller countries, but not in the Star League, which would be filled by clubs from the strongest leagues, but in the Blue League, which would be much weaker.
Personally, I don't believe in those plans for the Super League, I think they are just balloons that are released, and the real Super League will become the UEFA CL. It's CL already this season from the round of 16 onwards.
rpo.castro wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 00:05
If they create a superleague with 50 teams maybe
Are you so delusional?
If all North American professional leagues have 30 or more than 30 teams than Europe with more population surely can have a league with around 50 teams Eventually it will come to this though of course I don't know how much time it will take.
Superliga should start next season with 64 clubs in three leagues. Star and Gold leagues with 16 clubs each and Blue league with 32 clubs. A minimum of 14 matches per season would be played in groups of 8. There would certainly be room for clubs from smaller countries, but not in the Star League, which would be filled by clubs from the strongest leagues, but in the Blue League, which would be much weaker.
Personally, I don't believe in those plans for the Super League, I think they are just balloons that are released, and the real Super League will become the UEFA CL. It's CL already this season from the round of 16 onwards.
One day UEFA will change again CL to become the SuperLeague. I don't when and how many partial changes but number of clubs will be reduced around 12/14 so each club can play all the other clubs not just some, KO will be dropped to make room for league phase matches and more important to make league phase matches matter and increase their value. City, RM, Bayern losing 1 or 2 matches in this format means little to nothing. In a league competition it means a lot.
Europa Legue will become a II division and probably conference league will remain more similar to what we have now with teams qualifying from national championships
I don't think SuperLeague happens any time soon.
Germany is dead against it, and Gulf-state-owned clubs are not that interested either (they don't need extra money, just trophies).
14 (or more) games will dilute the value of each game even more. After 4 games teams ##6-16 will see no chance of winning and stop caring. And if the first 14 games are used for qualification to the next stage, then we'll see the situation like now - top teams "guaranteed" to pass to the next stage and not caring.
Essentially, you either keep the top cohort disinterested or the bottom cohort disinterested. The only way around it is knockouts from the start.
This year's CL format can serve as a "pilot" for the SuperLeague. Judging from the initial reaction, the interest is kind of tepid. CL game feels like just another domestic league game. There is no way they can overlay even a 14-game SuperLeague on top of domestic seasons (players will absolutely revolt), so SuperLeague teams will certainly be excluded from domestic leagues. This will completely break the money structure of top leagues (especially EPL). Right now people watch a competitive game of Man Utd and Brighton, they may not watch as much if Man Utd plays badly in the SuperLeague against stronger opponents.
Possession and passes were in favor of Dortmund, but occasions were almost level, Brugge even hitting the bar once. When Brugge was dominating the game and pushing for the 1-0, Joaquin Seys who had a great game, was subbed off for Kyriani Sabbe. 4 minutes later, it was 0-1 with a pinball goal coming out of nowhere. Goliath punched David who couldn't counter attack anymore.
Bad result tonight but encouraging for Brugge. If they repeat this kind of game, they can win in Graz, grab a win or 2 at home against Aston Villa, Sporting and Juventus.
rrey1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 16:28
I don't think SuperLeague happens any time soon.
Germany is dead against it, and Gulf-state-owned clubs are not that interested either (they don't need extra money, just trophies).
14 (or more) games will dilute the value of each game even more. After 4 games teams ##6-16 will see no chance of winning and stop caring. And if the first 14 games are used for qualification to the next stage, then we'll see the situation like now - top teams "guaranteed" to pass to the next stage and not caring.
Essentially, you either keep the top cohort disinterested or the bottom cohort disinterested. The only way around it is knockouts from the start.
This year's CL format can serve as a "pilot" for the SuperLeague. Judging from the initial reaction, the interest is kind of tepid. CL game feels like just another domestic league game. There is no way they can overlay even a 14-game SuperLeague on top of domestic seasons (players will absolutely revolt), so SuperLeague teams will certainly be excluded from domestic leagues. This will completely break the money structure of top leagues (especially EPL). Right now people watch a competitive game of Man Utd and Brighton, they may not watch as much if Man Utd plays badly in the SuperLeague against stronger opponents.
The European Super League starts in 2027/28 under UEFA. The EL becomes the second league from which the Super League will be entered, and the EL will be entered from the Conference League, which will be the third league. That third league will be of an open type and the best teams from the domestic championships will enter through qualifications.
Almost exclusively the best clubs of the Top 5 countries will play in the European Super League. The top 5 leagues will be richer, they will probably increase their quota of clubs and it will be more and more difficult for Portuguese, Dutch and other clubs to enter the Superliga because the gap will be bigger and bigger.
In a way, it is better because there will no longer be these cat-and-mouse matches, giant clubs with annual budgets of around one billion euros against midgets with budgets of around ten million euros.
BurningStorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 19:37
Leverkusen taking no prisoners, 4-0 at HT in Rotterdam, Wirtz so far with a brace in his first ever CL game.
Everyone plays for the highest possible goal difference, because in the case of the same points, the goal difference will decide. This Feyenoord-Leverkusen at halftime 0:4 can eventually surpass Bayern's +7.
BurningStorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 19:37
Leverkusen taking no prisoners, 4-0 at HT in Rotterdam, Wirtz so far with a brace in his first ever CL game.
Everyone plays for the highest possible goal difference, because in the case of the same points, the goal difference will decide. This Feyenoord-Leverkusen at halftime 0:4 can eventually surpass Bayern's +7.
I also think even though the importance of home advantage has decreased over the years already, it will play even less of a role in this new format. With only one game against each opponent, the away side has no reason anymore to be cautious and study the opponent for the return leg, but rather both teams can treat it as if it were a "final" on neutral ground.
BurningStorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 19:37
Leverkusen taking no prisoners, 4-0 at HT in Rotterdam, Wirtz so far with a brace in his first ever CL game.
Everyone plays for the highest possible goal difference, because in the case of the same points, the goal difference will decide. This Feyenoord-Leverkusen at halftime 0:4 can eventually surpass Bayern's +7.
It's important how the goals are at the end, not at the start (even if it looks nice to be 1st), so Leverkusen concentrated on keeping this score in the 2nd half with maybe a few promising counter attacks. Good first, but small step for a possible top 8 place. Lets see how Bayern's result look like when they travel to Rotterdam on MD 7.
Greyn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 20:20
So what is the biggest shock and upset of this CL edition after 14 matches were played? Manchester City unable to beat Inter at home?
All expected results so far, no big surprises. Draws Manchester City vs Inter and Bologna vs Shakhtar are the biggest surprises.
Greyn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 20:20
So what is the biggest shock and upset of this CL edition after 14 matches were played? Manchester City unable to beat Inter at home?
All expected results so far, no big surprises. Draws Manchester City vs Inter and Bologna vs Shakhtar are the biggest surprises.
I thought that we love football because not everything goes according to expectations and underdogs beat favourites from time to time. If so, it is really hard to love this competition.
At least in these 4 remaining matches I see potential for upsets.
Greyn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 20:20
So what is the biggest shock and upset of this CL edition after 14 matches were played? Manchester City unable to beat Inter at home?
All expected results so far, no big surprises. Draws Manchester City vs Inter and Bologna vs Shakhtar are the biggest surprises.
I thought that we love football because not everything goes according to expectations and underdogs beat favourites from time to time. If so, it is really hard to love this competition.
At least in these 4 remaining matches I see potential for upsets.
But you can make a lot of money with betting if it's so predictable. Dortmund had a 1.95, Leverkusen a 1.70..
Eventually it will come to this though of course I don't know how much time it will take.
Dortmund had a 1.95, Leverkusen a 1.70..