Swiss System for Europa League and Conference League

[Friesland]

Everyone talking about formats and coefficients, but nobody mentioned the real problem that's happening next season: with the Europa Conference League (ECL) changing its name to just the Conference League, what acronym will we use for it when CL is already taken by Champions League? Still ECL? CoL? Are three distinct two-letter acronyms for the three competitions too much to ask for?

I'll continue to use the abbreviation L.

[babaluj1]

This new Swiss system is best suited to strong clubs with bad coefficients, let's say next season it will probably be Aston Villa, Brighton, Girona, Bilbao, Sociedad, Bologna, Stuttgart, Freiburg, Monaco, Nice, Brest, etc. These clubs have large the chances of falling into the groups of death according to the old system, while under the new system there are no more groups of death, but only one group and the coefficients are not so important. On the other hand, clubs with high coefficients from weaker leagues will have a much more difficult task to advance to the Top 24, or Top 16, because they will lose the advantage of high coefficients in GS.

[perica]

btw probably the primary reason for the bracket having pairs drawn (1/2 vs 15/16) instead of fixed (1vs16 and 2vs15) is so they can avoid politically forbidden clashes without inventing new rules. Which they'll have to do if 2 of those pairs end up in the same bracket pair, but that's very unlikely to happen.

And maybe country protection. However, immagine team 1 is from england, just like teams 15 and 16. Such clash is impossible to avoid.

[Juliusz]

btw probably the primary reason for the bracket having pairs drawn (1/2 vs 15/16) instead of fixed (1vs16 and 2vs15) is so they can avoid politically forbidden clashes without inventing new rules. Which they'll have to do if 2 of those pairs end up in the same bracket pair, but that's very unlikely to happen.

And maybe country protection. However, immagine team 1 is from england, just like teams 15 and 16. Such clash is impossible to avoid.

There will be no country protection in the knockout rounds after the league phase.

[belfootstats]

btw probably the primary reason for the bracket having pairs drawn (1/2 vs 15/16) instead of fixed (1vs16 and 2vs15) is so they can avoid politically forbidden clashes without inventing new rules. Which they'll have to do if 2 of those pairs end up in the same bracket pair, but that's very unlikely to happen.

And maybe country protection. However, immagine team 1 is from england, just like teams 15 and 16. Such clash is impossible to avoid.

There will be no country protection in the knockout rounds after the league phase.

Is there country protection during the league phase?

EDIT. Found the answer. League protection applies unless the draw is impossible otherwise. It’s also further determined that you can only draw two teams from the same association.

[Ambro]

Apologies if it was mentioned here before, but just want to know why there are only 6 league matches in Conference League as opposed to 8 in the other 2 competitions?

[Sagy]

Apologies if it was mentioned here before, but just want to know why there are only 6 league matches in Conference League as opposed to 8 in the other 2 competitions?

Best answer I have heard is so teams in ECL will collect less points than teams in the other two competitions.

[Tazmania]

It is to limit the number of games clubs have to play because - unlike in the Champions and Europa - every club has to play at least one qualifying tie in the Conference.

[Ambro]

Thank you both, my assumption was that all clubs will need to go through qualifiers which is now confirmed.

[rpo.castro]

Comparison between previous format an this: past season each matchday in GS in this forum had between 12 and 24 pages.
Now we more matches and supposedly more interesting matches we barely have any action with 7 to 9 pages in previous days, only 2 today. I think it shows how interesting these matches are.

[ngfsmg]

Comparison between previous format an this: past season each matchday in GS in this forum had between 12 and 24 pages.
Now we more matches and supposedly more interesting matches we barely have any action with 7 to 9 pages in previous days, only 2 today. I think it shows how interesting these matches are.

Real Madrid and City both lost today and we barely had any activity, I think this has to more with the loss of some usual posters in the forum

[rpo.castro]

Comparison between previous format an this: past season each matchday in GS in this forum had between 12 and 24 pages.
Now we more matches and supposedly more interesting matches we barely have any action with 7 to 9 pages in previous days, only 2 today. I think it shows how interesting these matches are.

Real Madrid and City both lost today and we barely had any activity, I think this has to more with the loss of some usual posters in the forum

I only noticed the absence of buggy but ultra2013 and Lubomir are offline since a long time.

[BurningStorm]

Comparison between previous format an this: past season each matchday in GS in this forum had between 12 and 24 pages.
Now we more matches and supposedly more interesting matches we barely have any action with 7 to 9 pages in previous days, only 2 today. I think it shows how interesting these matches are.

Real Madrid and City both lost today and we barely had any activity, I think this has to more with the loss of some usual posters in the forum

I only noticed the absence of buggy but ultra2013 and Lubomir are offline since a long time.

ultra is the GermanyFourWorldCups guy. Lubomir was also here with a new account but he's gone again, I think. At least AZ returned in the domestic cup thread.

[matt]

Comparison between previous format an this: past season each matchday in GS in this forum had between 12 and 24 pages.
Now we more matches and supposedly more interesting matches we barely have any action with 7 to 9 pages in previous days, only 2 today. I think it shows how interesting these matches are.

You prompted me to create a new poll on this matter, i'm curious to see the results

[Fotcalc]

Lowest possible finishing position for all UEL and UECL clubs.
UEL:

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 #  Club                  Lowest possible #
 1  Lazio                 25
 2  Athletic Bilbao       25
 3  Eintracht Frankfurt   25
 4  Galatasaray           32
 5  Anderlecht            32
 6  Ajax                  33
 7  Lyon                  33
 8  Rangers               33
 9  Tottenham Hotspur     33
10  FCSB                  33
11  Ferencvaros           35
12  Manchester United     35
13  Viktoria Plzen        35
14  Olympiacos            35
15  Fenerbahce            35
16  Real Sociedad         36
17  Bodo/Glimt            36
18  Braga                 36
19  AZ                    36
20  Midtjylland           36
21  Roma                  36
22  Besiktas              36
23  Porto                 36
24  Union Saint-Gilloise  36
25  TSG Hoffenheim        36
26  Slavia Prague         36
27  PAOK                  36
28  IF Elfsborg           36
29  Twente                36
30  Malmo FF              36
31  Maccabi Tel Aviv      36
32  Qarabag               36
33  Ludogorets Razgrad    36
34  RFS                   36
35  Nice                  36
36  Dynamo Kyiv           36

UECL:

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 #  Club                  Lowest possible #
 1  Chelsea               15
 2  Legia Warsaw          15
 3  Jagiellonia Bialystok 23
 4  Rapid Wien            23
 5  Vitoria de Guimaraes  23
 6  Fiorentina            26
 7  Olimpija Ljubljana    26
 8  Lugano                26
 9  1. FC Heidenheim      26
10  Shamrock Rovers       29
11  Cercle Brugge         34
12  Djurgardens IF        34
13  APOEL                 34
14  Vikingur Reykjavik    34
15  Borac Banja Luka      34
16  Pafos                 35
17  Heart of Midlothian   35
18  Gent                  35
19  Copenhagen            36
20  Celje                 36
21  TSC                   36
22  Real Betis            36
23  Astana                36
24  Panathinaikos         36
25  St. Gallen            36
26  Noah                  36
27  Molde                 36
28  Omonia                36
29  The New Saints        36
30  Mlada Boleslav        36
31  HJK                   36
32  LASK                  36
33  Istanbul Basaksehir   36
34  Petrocub Hincesti     36
35  Dinamo Minsk          36
36  Larne                 36