2025 FIFA Club World Cup, USA (first 32-team edition)

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krdel wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 23:04
rpo.castro wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 20:38
krdel wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 19:36
I do not understand what you are trying to say.

They won the domestic league in 2024. I suppose that was the criteria to qualify or?
No they didn't. They were first in regular season. The MLS is decided in knockout playoffs, kind of Champions League now
I am not following their football and I do not know who counts as the champion. So you are saying it was not declared in advance that the reagular season winner will take the place? Then who was intended to take that place? Cup winner?
The champion is who win the playoffs final. Winner of regular season is the winner of regular season. You can find it innone of the 2 articles I shared above.

And it wasn't set the rules for the host. FIFA didn't set "it will be the winner, or it will be the regular season".
If they had set up beforehand that the spot was for the regular season winner you could say "I don't agree but its clear for all, all teams know what to do to qualify"

That's not what FIFA did. They didn't set any rule so they could gamble as they wanted
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Any speculations on group draw seeding? They have FIFA club ranking but it is only within but not across confederations.

I guess they may do something like this?
Pot 1: 2 hosts + 6 UEFA
Pot 2: 6 UEFA + 2 CONMEBOL
Pot 3: 4 CONMEBOL + 1 AFC + 1 CAF + 1 Concacaf + 1 AFC/CAF/Concacaf
Pot 4: 7 AFC/CAF/Concacaf + 1 OFC
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Shing wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:37 Any speculations on group draw seeding? They have FIFA club ranking but it is only within but not across confederations.

I guess they may do something like this?
Pot 1: 2 hosts + 6 UEFA
Pot 2: 6 UEFA + 2 CONMEBOL
Pot 3: 4 CONMEBOL + 1 AFC + 1 CAF + 1 Concacaf + 1 AFC/CAF/Concacaf
Pot 4: 7 AFC/CAF/Concacaf + 1 OFC
I guess, without any inside knowledge:

Pot 1
2 USA teams (Miami, Seattle)
3 UCL champions (Chelsea, Man City, Real Madrid)
1 team from AFC, CAF, CONMEBOL based on ranking (Al Hilal, Al Ahly, Flamengo)

Pot 2
Next 5 UEFA teams based on ranking
The other 3 Copa Libertadores champions

Pot 3
Last 4 UEFA teams based on ranking
Next team from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL based on ranking

Pot 4
Last 2 teams from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF
Last team from CONMEBOL
OFC
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Innovative FIFA Club World Cup Trophy unveiled ahead of new tournament in 2025
Published
14 Nov 2024

The new trophy, designed by FIFA, has been crafted in collaboration with global luxury jeweller Tiffany & Co.

Bold prize that will reward the one and only FIFA club world champions fuses state-of-the-art production with innovative design

Conceived by FIFA and crafted in collaboration with Tiffany & Co., the trophy features intricate details that portray football’s rich history

Prestigious golden trophy can transform from a shield into a multifaceted and orbital structure

FIFA has unveiled the official FIFA Club World Cup Trophy that will be lifted for the first time at next year’s tournament, set to be staged at 12 world-class venues across 11 Host Cities in the United States from Sunday, 15 June to Sunday, 13 July 2025.

The new trophy, designed by FIFA and crafted in collaboration with global luxury jeweller Tiffany & Co., will be presented to the inaugural FIFA Club World Cup™ winners, who will be crowned after the final at the MetLife Stadium in New York New Jersey.

FIFA President Gianni Infantino said: “Innovative, inclusive, groundbreaking and truly global, the new 32-team FIFA Club World Cup deserves a trophy that represents all of this. It is both prestigious and timeless – a golden trophy that is a symbol of the future and inspired by the past.”

“The team who lift this trophy will hold the world of club football in their hands. To the players who win it, history belongs to you! Let’s take it to the world and celebrate it as we look forward to the start of a new era for football when the one and only FIFA club world champions lift the FIFA Club World Cup Trophy in New York New Jersey on 13 July 2025.”

The President and Chief Executive Officer of Tiffany & Co., Anthony Ledru, added: “With a legacy dating back 160 years, Tiffany & Co. has crafted some of the most iconic championship trophies in history, setting the standard for craft and design. The FIFA Club World Cup Trophy is the next chapter in our long history of creating the world’s most revered symbols of athletic achievement.”

A symbol of the future, inspired by the past

Boasting a 24-carat gold-plated finish, the FIFA Club World Cup Trophyfeatures intricate laser-engraved inscriptions on both sides, showcasing text and imagery that portray football’s rich history. The inscriptions include a world map and the names of all 211 FIFA Member Associations and the six confederations, representing the geographical and cultural diversity of the beautiful game.

The trophy’s central disc displays an array of icons that capture football’s traditions, including symbols of stadiums and equipment and a world map.

The trophy also features engravings in 13 languages and Braille, further highlighting the inclusive spirit of the global game and ensuring that the tournament’s legacy is accessible to diverse audiences around the world. Space is available to laser-engrave the emblems of the winning clubs for 24 editions of the tournament. Furthermore, the trophy can transform from a shield into a multifaceted and orbital structure – an adaptable design that establishes a powerful visual structure.

The famous Voyager Golden Records carried on NASA’s Voyager deep-space missions in the 1970s, the periodic table, maps of pioneering journeys and astronomy each played a role in the trophy’s conceptualisation. Celebrating both the past and the future of the sport, the trophy features celestial symbols representing the approximate positions of planets at the time of FIFA’s foundation on Saturday, 21 May 1904 in Paris, France, and of the tournament’s opening match on 15 June 2025 in Miami, USA.

An inspiring message to the champions is engraved on the trophy, including the following: “To those who hold this trophy, history belongs to you! You are witness to a moment in time that represents the pinnacle of club football, bestowed upon few but celebrated by many.” These words reflect the trophy’s status as a symbol of greatness, honouring the legends of the past while inspiring clubs globally.

A trophy for champions

The champions at each edition will receive a replica of the FIFA Club World Cup Trophy featuring engravings that mark their triumph after the final. This official FIFA Club World Cup Winner’s Trophy mirrors the perpetual trophy in its craft, construction and scale – complete with official nameplates emblazoned with club emblems, along with dates relating to their victory.

The FIFA Club World Cup Trophy will be presented to the world in its physical form on Thursday, 5 December 2024, when FIFA hosts the tournament’s draw in Miami, USA. Additional information regarding the FIFA Club World Cup can be accessed on FIFA.com. Fans can register for tournament ticket and hospitality information at FIFA.com/tickets.

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amenina wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 02:07 Mascherano named Inter Miami coach

https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/men ... iami-coach
Mascherano, Alba, Messi, Suarez, Busquets... the Barcelona of old times is back
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amenina wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:59
Shing wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:37 Any speculations on group draw seeding? They have FIFA club ranking but it is only within but not across confederations.

I guess they may do something like this?
Pot 1: 2 hosts + 6 UEFA
Pot 2: 6 UEFA + 2 CONMEBOL
Pot 3: 4 CONMEBOL + 1 AFC + 1 CAF + 1 Concacaf + 1 AFC/CAF/Concacaf
Pot 4: 7 AFC/CAF/Concacaf + 1 OFC
I guess, without any inside knowledge:

Pot 1
2 USA teams (Miami, Seattle)
3 UCL champions (Chelsea, Man City, Real Madrid)
1 team from AFC, CAF, CONMEBOL based on ranking (Al Hilal, Al Ahly, Flamengo)

Pot 2
Next 5 UEFA teams based on ranking
The other 3 Copa Libertadores champions

Pot 3
Last 4 UEFA teams based on ranking
Next team from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL based on ranking

Pot 4
Last 2 teams from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF
Last team from CONMEBOL
OFC
https://cwcdrawprocedure.tiiny.site/

Here we have answer to mystery about seeding.
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Botafogo claim stunning Libertadores victory
Published
1 Dec 2024

Dramatic triumph over Atletico Mineiro in Buenos Aires means Artur Jorge's side have qualified for the FIFA Club World Cup 2025 and the FIFA Intercontinental Cup 2024.

Botafogo played almost the entire match with 10 men
Rio-based side have booked their place at the FIFA Club World Cup 2025
Artur Jorge's side will also compete in the FIFA Intercontinental Cup 2024
Luiz Henrique, Alex Telles and Junior Santos guided 10-man Botafogo to an astonishing CONMEBOL Copa Libertadores 2024 victory following a dramatic and action-packed 3-1 triumph over Atletico Mineiro at Estadio Monumental in Argentina.

Victory in the South American showpiece in Buenos Aires means that Artur Jorge's side have become the 32nd and final team to qualify for the FIFA Club World Cup 2025™, which takes place in the United States from 15 June to 13 July.

The new FIFA Club World Cup, which brings together the leading teams from all six global confederations, will have four representatives from Brazil and two from Argentina, with the Rio-based outfit joining Palmeiras, Flamengo and Fluminense as Copa Libertadores winners, while River Plate and Boca Juniors qualified via the confederation rankings.

Those clubs will discover who they face in the group phase of the 63-game tournament when the draw takes place in Miami on Thursday, 5 December from 1900 CET.

Botafogo are now also assured of a place at the FIFA Intercontinental Cup 2024™, where they will meet Pachuca in the FIFA Derby of the Americas at Stadium 974 in Qatar on 11 December. The winners of that match will face Al Ahly in the FIFA Challenger Cup, with Real Madrid then awaiting the victors.

The 2024 Libertadores final exploded into life in the very first minute as Botafogo’s Gregore caught Fausto Vera in the head with a high boot, with referee Facundo Tello brandishing an immediate red card and the Galo man only able to continue after several minutes of treatment.

Inevitably, Botafogo were initially pushed onto the back foot but defended resolutely, with goalkeeper John largely untroubled aside from a couple of long-range efforts from veteran forward Hulk which stung his palms.

And the 10 men then stunned Atletico Mineiro by taking the lead in the 35th minute as Luiz Henrique seized on a loose ball following a shot from the edge of the area by Marlon Freitas to drill a left-foot strike under Everson at his near post from the corner of the six-yard box.

That unexpected advantage was doubled soon after with Everson flattening Luiz Henrique as he chased the ball into the area, with a penalty awarded following a VAR review. Alex Telles stepped up and smashed home into the bottom corner, sending the keeper the wrong way.

Gabriel Milito made three changes at the interval, and one of his new faces made an immediate impact as Eduardo Vargas was inexplicably left unmarked near the penalty spot to head home Hulk’s corner from the left in the 47th minute.

Galo continued to press but could not find a way through Botafogo’s defensive ranks again, with O Glorioso sealing their first-ever Libertadores crown deep into added time through Junior Santos, earning the right to test themselves against the world’s leading teams at the FIFA Club World Cup 2025.
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FIFA Club World Cup 2025: Everything you need to know

Find out all the information on the new club tournament with details of qualified teams, dates, competition format, hosts, tickets and more.

New tournament will be played for the first time in 2025
Clubs from AFC, CAF, Concacaf, CONMEBOL, OFC and UEFA will feature
32 teams will take part with the USA confirmed as hosts
FIFA's new prime club competition - the FIFA Club World Cup 2025™ - will grace the world stage in June and July 2025, when 32 of the globe's leading teams gather in the USA for the inaugural edition.

This truly global event will bring together the most successful club sides from each of the six international confederations: AFC, CAF, Concacaf, CONMEBOL, OFC and UEFA.

Here, FIFA brings you everything you need to know on the tournament, with details of the teams who have already booked their tickets to the USA, and an explanation of how the remaining sides can qualify.

Who is hosting the FIFA Club World Cup 2025?

The first edition of FIFA's new prime club competition will be played in the USA.

When will the FIFA Club World Cup 2025 be played?

The tournament will take place from 15 June to 13 July 2025.

When is the draw for the FIFA Club World Cup 2025?

The world’s best clubs will discover their group stage opponents on Thursday 5 December 2024 when the eyes of the footballing world focus on Miami in the United States for the tournament draw.

The draw, to be conducted as a live studio event, will kick off at 13:00 local time (19:00 CET) and be beamed around the globe via FIFA.com, FIFA+ and supporting channels.

Which teams have qualified for the FIFA Club World Cup 2025?

Of the 32 places available at the FIFA Club World Cup 2025, all 32 have now been filled.

Al Ahly (EGY) – 2020/21, 2022/23 and 2023/24 CAF Champions League
Wydad (MAR) – 2021/22 CAF Champions League
ES Tunis (TUN) - CAF ranking pathway
Mamelodi Sundowns (RSA) - CAF ranking pathway
Al Hilal (KSA) – 2021 AFC Champions League
Urawa Red Diamonds (JPN) – 2022 AFC Champions League
Al Ain (UAE) - 2023/24 AFC Champions League
Ulsan HD FC (KOR) - AFC ranking pathway
Chelsea (ENG) – 2020/21 UEFA Champions League
Real Madrid (ESP) – 2021/22 and 2023/24 UEFA Champions League
Manchester City (ENG) – 2022/23 UEFA Champions League
Bayern Munich (GER) – UEFA ranking pathway
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) – UEFA ranking pathway
Inter Milan (ITA) – UEFA ranking pathway
Porto (POR) - UEFA ranking pathway
Benfica (POR) – UEFA ranking pathway
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - UEFA ranking pathway
Juventus (ITA) - UEFA ranking pathway
Atletico Madrid (ESP) - UEFA ranking pathway
FC Salzburg (AUT) - UEFA ranking pathway
Monterrey (MEX) – 2021 Concacaf Champions Cup
Seattle Sounders (USA) – 2022 Concacaf Champions Cup
Club Leon (MEX) – 2023 Concacaf Champions Cup
Pachuca (MEX) - 2024 Concacaf Champions Cup
Auckland City (NZL) – OFC ranking pathway
Palmeiras (BRA) – 2021 CONMEBOL Libertadores
Flamengo (BRA) – 2022 CONMEBOL Libertadores
Fluminense (BRA) – 2023 CONMEBOL Libertadores
Botafogo (BRA) - 2024 CONMEBOL Libertadores
River Plate (ARG) - CONMEBOL ranking pathway
Boca Juniors (ARG) - CONMEBOL ranking pathway
Inter Miami (USA) - Host nation slot

Find out how the ranking pathways are determined.

https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-rankings/f ... -world-cup

Which stadiums will host the FIFA Club World Cup 2025?

A total of 12 venues will be used to host the 63 matches which will be played across the United States, with the final to be played at MetLife Stadium in New York New Jersey and the opening match at Miami's Hard Rock Stadium.

Mercedes-Benz Stadium – Atlanta, GA
TQL Stadium – Cincinnati, OH
Bank of America Stadium – Charlotte, NC
Rose Bowl Stadium – Los Angeles, CA
Hard Rock Stadium – Miami, FL
GEODIS Park – Nashville, TN
MetLife Stadium – New York New Jersey
Camping World Stadium – Orlando, FL
Inter&Co Stadium – Orlando, FL
Lincoln Financial Field – Philadelphia, PA
Lumen Field – Seattle, WA
Audi Field – Washington, D.C.

FIFA Club World Cup Trophy

The official FIFA Club World Cup Trophy, that will be lifted for the first time in 2025, was unveiled by FIFA in November 2024.

The new trophy, designed by FIFA and crafted in collaboration with global luxury jeweller Tiffany & Co., will be presented to the inaugural FIFA Club World Cup winners, who will be crowned after the final at the MetLife Stadium in New York New Jersey.

How many teams will take part in the FIFA Club World Cup 2025, and how do they qualify?
A total of 32 teams will compete in the tournament, with places distributed as follows between the international football confederations.

Africa - 4 CAF teams. Three via champions pathway (CAF Champions League) and one via ranking pathway.
Asia - 4 AFC teams. Three via champions pathway (AFC Champions League) and one via ranking pathway.
Europe - 12 UEFA teams. Four via champions pathway (UEFA Champions League) and eight via ranking pathway.
North and Central America, Caribbean - 4 Concacaf teams. All via champions pathway (Concacaf Champions Cup).
Oceania - 1 OFC team. Via ranking pathway.
South America - 6 CONMEBOL teams. Four via champions pathway (CONMEBOL Libertadores) and two via ranking pathway.
Host country - 1 team.

The following criteria also apply:

In the event of a club winning two or more editions of the confederation’s premier club competition during the 2021-2024 period, the ranking pathway will be used to grant access.
A cap of two clubs per country will be applied to the access list with an exception in cases where more than two clubs from the same country win the confederation’s premier club competition over the four-year period.

Find out how the ranking pathways are determined.

What is the FIFA Club World Cup 2025 format?

A group stage composed of eight groups of four teams per group playing in a single-game round-robin format.
The top two teams per group progress to the round of 16.
A direct single-match knockout stage from the round of 16 to the final.
No third-place play-off.

How can I buy FIFA Club World Cup 2025 tickets?

Ticket details are still to be announced. You can register interest in tickets and hospitality for other upcoming FIFA tournaments.

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https://x.com/FIFACWC/status/1863176221191983422

A not very correct geographical map of the participating clubs posted by FIFA. Didn't know that RB Salzburg is in Germany (maybe they are confusing them with another RB team?), Inter is located in the Balkans, and Borussia Dortmund is right in the middle of the Baltic Sea....

Anyway, Rio de Janeiro with the most clubs with 3 (Flamengo, Fluminense, Botafogo), followed by Buenos Aires and Madrid with 2.

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RuudFeijernoord wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 17:45
https://cwcdrawprocedure.tiiny.site/

Here we have answer to mystery about seeding.
There is no way that's the actual draw procedure. There are so many errors/inconsistencies, clearly a fake created by some over-enthusiastic fan.
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shemi wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 14:16
RuudFeijernoord wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 17:45
https://cwcdrawprocedure.tiiny.site/

Here we have answer to mystery about seeding.
There is no way that's the actual draw procedure. There are so many errors/inconsistencies, clearly a fake created by some over-enthusiastic fan.
No, it isn't. The pots are incorrect.

Here are real ones:
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Source: https://x.com/footrankings/status/18636 ... 91352?s=46
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Renard207 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:07 No, it isn't. The pots are incorrect.

Here are real ones:
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Source: https://x.com/footrankings/status/18636 ... 91352?s=46
What were the rule for pots allocation? Can't find a consistent rule besides:
Pot A: 4 UEFA, 4 CONMEBOL
Pot B: remaining UEFA
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rpo.castro wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:07
Renard207 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:07 No, it isn't. The pots are incorrect.

Here are real ones:
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Source: https://x.com/footrankings/status/18636 ... 91352?s=46
What were the rule for pots allocation? Can't find a consistent rule besides:
Pot A: 4 UEFA, 4 CONMEBOL
Pot B: remaining UEFA
The teams in each conference are ranked according to the criteria which are used to qualify teams to the tournament. So Pot 1 contains the top 4 UEFA teams and the top 4 CONMEBOL teams, Pot 2 contains the remaining 8 UEFA teams. Pot 3 contains the top 2 AFC teams, top 2 CAF teams, top 2 CONCACAF teams, and the remaining 2 CONMEBOL teams. Pot 4 contains the remaining teams.

https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-rankings/f ... -world-cup
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Obviously there will be 2 European teams in exactly half of the groups, but will the draw procedure allow for 2 teams of any other continent to participate in the same group :question:
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