Italian football season 2024-25

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Oldelpaso wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 15:22 Wikipedia has a neutral point of view etc.
Sorry, I had to chuckle on that one.
Oldelpaso wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 15:22
In English Wikipedia generally speaking any footballer playing in a fully professional league can have an article.
Or any player who has been a full international for his country on multiple occasions (how many, I don't know). Tons of obscure amateur players from Aruba or Tahiti who happen to have 30 or so caps.
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mspm89 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 22:28
Oldelpaso wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 15:22 Wikipedia has a neutral point of view etc.
Sorry, I had to chuckle on that one.
Oldelpaso wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 15:22
In English Wikipedia generally speaking any footballer playing in a fully professional league can have an article.
Or any player who has been a full international for his country on multiple occasions (how many, I don't know). Tons of obscure amateur players from Aruba or Tahiti who happen to have 30 or so caps.
The sheer number of low quality articles on footballers is a bugbear among some sections of editors to the point where its almost a meme. It has been pointed out that Wikipedia has more biography articles about footballers than it does about women. The inclusionist point of view is that any of them could one day grow to be more comprehensive and worthwhile. The trouble with a lot of Tahiti player type articles is that there isn't enough published information in existence to do that. My favoured approach would be to merge content from these basic ones into articles like "List of Tahiti international footballers" which could be done without losing info, but that's a minority position. Anyway, that's enough of my off topic rambling for now.
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Oldelpaso wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 08:12 ... It has been pointed out that Wikipedia has more biography articles about footballers than it does about women. The inclusionist point of view is that any of them could one day grow to be more comprehensive and worthwhile. The trouble with a lot of Tahiti player type articles is that there isn't enough published information in existence to do that. My favoured approach would be to merge content from these basic ones into articles like "List of Tahiti international footballers" which could be done without losing info, but that's a minority position. Anyway, that's enough of my off topic rambling for now...
Yes, people also point out that there is more information about reality show players than about the classics. But I don't think it's something that should be judged in a negative way. Obviously millions of people nowadays are interested in reality shows and they write a lot of info on them. Now, if someone wants to read about the classics, there is also tons of information on them, so everybody is happy.
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Verona, Zanetti: "6-1 in the first leg? We are different, we have to show it today too"

LOL, at the moment Verona-Atalanta 0-5 (minute 63; Retegui x 3) 😂
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FT - Verona vs Atalanta 0-5, with 4 goals from Retegui.
total between first and second leg: Ver vs Ata 1-11
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On Saturday Tomori of Milan was sent off but in the action that led to the sent off there was a clear offside. I saw it live even without replay, but the linesman didn't raise the flag up and VAR couldn't intervene, so the red card stayed.

Tonight Inter scored a goal but the ball looked like it clearly went off the pitch, and again it was quite clear live. On the following corner Inter scored.

It's absurd that such things can still happen. Rules on when VAR can intervene need to be changed, because some linesmen are blinder than Bocelli.

Pathetic.
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:goodpost: the whole VAR-thing seems to be a failure as it was introduced to prevent unfair actions like Henry's handbal against the Republic of Ireland.

I saw the red card and prior offside you mentioned. The sending of should have been cancelled as it was unfair and interfering the rest of the match in a negative way.

And corners that were'nt corners or the other way. Tell it to Howard Webb. He should have awarded us a corner in the 2010 WC final just before that fatal moment.

Maybe the Swedes are right by abolishing VAR. :dontknow:
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Oldelpaso wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 15:55
How did Walker do?
Late reply, but had more games to analyze. I say this was a "great" move for Milan. Emerson Royal has been a disappointment to say the least this season and Calabria injured and probably demotivated since there was no renewal. So the RB position was extremely vulnerable in an already weak defense line. Walker came in very good, he wasn't spectacular, but with his experience was able to adapt quickly and also helped improve the stability of the whole defense. Now the defense start to look like a normal one, sure there is also a combination of factor like the new coach so can't say how to isolate just Walker contribution, but the overall feeling is much better.
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Tomori's red card was justified. The foul was violent(enough for a second yellow). It doesn't matter the game was stopped. Not to mention that his 1st yellow was also very stupid. Tomori is the only one to blame for this very easy red card.

We complain Var intervenes to much in the game. Than we complain it intervenes to little in the game. It's very easy to complain.

Var can be improved, but it's also very new to football in the grant scheme. Overall it's been a great improvement thanks to it we had many clear wrong doings not happen. Improving is one option, going back is not.
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I don't wish VAR is removed, on the contrary, it would be sensibile to change the protocol and use it also for situations like the ones i described yesterday.
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Inter 57
Napoli 56
Atalanta 54

Next week: Napoli - Inter.

I wonder if the CL elimination might be a blessing in disguise for Atalanta, now able to play just once per week (they are out of Coppa Italia too).
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12 Serie A games left.

Napoli and Atalanta will only play those games, while Inter at least 4 more (2 in Champions League and 2 Coppa Italia) and could easily be more.
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Coppa Italia 2024/25

Empoli writes history...beats Juventus on penalties and flies to the Coppa Italia semi-finals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%8 ... %5Bedit%5D

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lots of applause for the tuscan club!! :applause:
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the semifinals of Coppa Italia will be (regardless who play at home the 1st leg):
Inter vs Milan
Empoli vs Bologna

This means that one finalist will be either Empoli or Bologna, and that they will play SuperCoppa Italiana 2026 in Riad.
High probability that Milan and Juventus will be out from SuperCoppa Italiana 2026, like in 2024; the attendance will not like it;
One of the most likely scenario is that SupeerCoppa Italiana 2026 will be played by Inter, Napoli, Atalanta and Bologna
Hope for more partecipants in the next Prediction Game
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With this format, it's almost a miracle that a team like Empoli makes it this far. Double match semifinal and relegation-threatened, who knows if they'll be able to focus 100% on both fronts.
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