Smallest town in the first division of your country
Actually that's Gretna Green - which is right next door to Gretna.
Apparently (I didn't know all this - thanks Wiki) it's because Gretna Green is the first village you get to coming from England & from 1753 the Marriage Act in England stated that you had to be 21 to be married without the consent of your parents - in Scotland at that time it was 14 for boys & just 12 for girls!
Now the gap is a bit narrower but you can still marry in Scotland at age 16 or 17 without parental consent whereas in England you must wait until you're 18.
Apparently (I didn't know all this - thanks Wiki) it's because Gretna Green is the first village you get to coming from England & from 1753 the Marriage Act in England stated that you had to be 21 to be married without the consent of your parents - in Scotland at that time it was 14 for boys & just 12 for girls!
Now the gap is a bit narrower but you can still marry in Scotland at age 16 or 17 without parental consent whereas in England you must wait until you're 18.
First divisionseso wrote:Is there anyone here from Iceland? These clubs may be the record-holders!!
Grindavik (2.817) (Knattspyrnudeild UMFG, or simply Grindavik - cap. 1.500)
Akranes (6.419) (Akranes - cap. 4.850)
Keflavik (13.000) (Keflavik IF - cap. 5.200)
Hafnarfjordur (25.107) (Hafnarfjardar - cap. 2.200)
Kopavogur (29.301) (Breiðablik UBK - cap. 3.500; HK Kopavogs - cap. 3.500 <same stadium>)
Reykjavik (118.861) (Fram - cap. unknown; Fylkir - cap. 4.000; KR Reykjavik - cap. 6.000; Valur - cap. 3.000; Þróttur - cap. 2.500; Fjölnir - cap. 1.000)
Interesting, all these years I was writing Hafnarjordur, but today I discovered there's a second f in its name.
On a related theme, I was just wondering what the smallest town/city to have (or have had) two teams in their country's top division might be? I'll opening the bidding with Dundee (Dundee/Dundee United), which has a population of about 150,000. I was thinking it might be the similarly sized Castellón de la Plana, which could offer Castellón and Villarreal, but I don't think the two clubs have ever been in the Primera Liga at the same time. Any ideas?
They may have different local governments, but in reality, they're pretty much the same town. A bit like Salford and Manchester. But I take your point!AlanK wrote:Same province, yes, but Castellon plays in Castellon in Castalia; Villarreal plays in the Madrigal in Vila-Real de los Infantes. Close but no cigar.
For Greece, the only cities that have had more than one club are Athens, Thessaloniki, Heraklion (in Crete), and Volos (in Thessaly). Volos is the smallest with about 85,000 people and Niki Volou and Olympiakos Volou. Patra which is the 3rd biggest city in Greece only has Panachaiki which is in the 3rd dividion!!!mistral wrote:On a related theme, I was just wondering what the smallest town/city to have (or have had) two teams in their country's top division might be? I'll opening the bidding with Dundee (Dundee/Dundee United), which has a population of about 150,000. I was thinking it might be the similarly sized Castellón de la Plana, which could offer Castellón and Villarreal, but I don't think the two clubs have ever been in the Primera Liga at the same time. Any ideas?
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Then people can't understand why some others say "Gamo ti Panachaiki mou mesa!!"?seso wrote:Patra which is the 3rd biggest city in Greece only has Panachaiki which is in the 3rd dividion!!!
Well Ukraine's team from the smallest city in Premier League is Vorskla Poltava which has population of "just" 301,000
But there was a team two years ago Naftofyk Ahtyrka which had 49,000 and it's a record for UPL.
Not the most helpful league to search for records But I think 301,000 might be the biggest smallest city in First Divisions
But there was a team two years ago Naftofyk Ahtyrka which had 49,000 and it's a record for UPL.
Not the most helpful league to search for records But I think 301,000 might be the biggest smallest city in First Divisions
That's a very substantial population for the smallest city in a first division, although Hoffenheim excepted, I suspect that Germany isn't too far behind. How big is Wolfsburg?SHEV wrote:Well Ukraine's team from the smallest city in Premier League is Vorskla Poltava which has population of "just" 301,000
If we assume that the 'smallest biggest city' has e.g. an international airport, a metro/subway and a decent football team, I'd guess that we're looking at places like Bilbao, Brescia, Catania, Dnipropetrovsk, Newcastle, Nürnberg, Palma de Mallorca, Rennes, Thessaloniki or Toulouse. Of them, I think that Rennes is the smallest, with a population of just over 200,000, but it could be Brescia, which is of much the same size. There again, there's Venezia (Venice), which still feels like a 'big city', despite now only having a population of about 80,000.AlanK wrote:What a great concept. Now let's expand that, and see who can come up with the smallest biggest city.
Besides Hoffenheim with a population of 3200 there are a couple of smaller towns in the Bundesliga. Wolfsburg (120.000) and Leverkusen (160.000) are not that big. Well at least not for Germany. On the list of the biggest towns in Germany Leverkusen is 49th and Wolfsburg 63rd. The biggest towns in Germany that don't have a team in the Bundesliga are Essen and Düsseldorf (~580.000 both; No. 8 and 9 on the list).
Here the towns that have Bundesliga teams:
Berlin 3.400.000
Hamburg 1.800.000
München 1.300.000
Köln 1.000.000
Frankfurt 660.000
Stuttgart 600.000
Dortmund 590.000
Bremen 550.000
Hannover 520.000
Nürnberg 500.000
Bochum 380.000
Gelsenkirchen (Schalke) 260.000
Mönchengladbach 260.000
Freiburg 220.000
Mainz 200.000
Leverkusen 160.000
Wolfsburg 120.000
Hoffenheim 3.200
Here the towns that have Bundesliga teams:
Berlin 3.400.000
Hamburg 1.800.000
München 1.300.000
Köln 1.000.000
Frankfurt 660.000
Stuttgart 600.000
Dortmund 590.000
Bremen 550.000
Hannover 520.000
Nürnberg 500.000
Bochum 380.000
Gelsenkirchen (Schalke) 260.000
Mönchengladbach 260.000
Freiburg 220.000
Mainz 200.000
Leverkusen 160.000
Wolfsburg 120.000
Hoffenheim 3.200
agglomeration:Tirion wrote:Besides Hoffenheim with a population of 3200 there are a couple of smaller towns in the Bundesliga. Wolfsburg (120.000) and Leverkusen (160.000) are not that big. Well at least not for Germany. On the list of the biggest towns in Germany Leverkusen is 49th and Wolfsburg 63rd. The biggest towns in Germany that don't have a team in the Bundesliga are Essen and Düsseldorf (~580.000 both; No. 8 and 9 on the list).
Here the towns that have Bundesliga teams:
Berlin 3.400.000
Hamburg 1.800.000
München 1.300.000
Köln 1.000.000
Frankfurt 660.000
Stuttgart 600.000
Dortmund 590.000
Bremen 550.000
Hannover 520.000
Nürnberg 500.000
Bochum 380.000
Gelsenkirchen (Schalke) 260.000
Mönchengladbach 260.000
Freiburg 220.000
Mainz 200.000
Leverkusen 160.000
Wolfsburg 120.000
Hoffenheim 3.200
Schalke, Dortmund, Bochum (Ruhr, ~ 5.7 mio)
Berlin (~4.2 mio)
Stuttgart (~2.6 mio)
Hamburg (~2.6 mio)
München (~1.9 mio)
Frankfurt (~1.9 mio)
Köln, Leverkusen (Köln, ~1.8 mio)
Hoffenheim (Mannheim, ~1.6 mio)
Nürnberg (~1 mio)
Hannover (~1 mio)
Bremen (~900k)
Mainz (Wiesbaden, ~800k)
Mönchengladbach (~480k)
Freiburg (~390k)
Wolfsburg (~130k)
largest without BuLi clubs: Düsseldorf (~1.3 mio), Saarbrücken (~900k), Bonn (~900k), Wuppertal (~800k), Dresden (~700k)
source: http://www.citypopulation.de/Deutschland-Agglo_d.html