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In a wet qualifying Verstappen had the best time by 0,6s but he will start from 11th due to exceeding the number of power units used in a season.
So Leclerc will start from pole with Perez on his side. Hamilton will start on P3 and Norris in P4 meaning McLaren was the slowest from the top teams.
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4 different teams in the top 4, looking at recent couple of races, these 4 are in reversed order of speed/performance. This could become an interesting race. And for Max it looks good that not the fastest (race speed) are on the first row. But passing is ‚easy‘ on Spa.
For Perez it would be good if he could get passed Leclerc fast and then race away. Disappointing performance might mean it is his last race….

I think Norris will win before Piastri and Max…..
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Ricardo wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 00:58 4 different teams in the top 4, looking at recent couple of races, these 4 are in reversed order of speed/performance. This could become an interesting race. And for Max it looks good that not the fastest (race speed) are on the first row. But passing is ‚easy‘ on Spa.
For Perez it would be good if he could get passed Leclerc fast and then race away. Disappointing performance might mean it is his last race….

I think Norris will win before Piastri and Max…..
Faster car on straight doesn't mean faster car turning nor faster in a lap.

Alpines have usually the highest top speed or 2nd highest, Ferrari and McLaren usually at bottom.
McLaren are really good turning. Nuno Pinto (Lance Stroll coach, worked a lot in developmentof young drivers at Prema) said a little more than a year ago that McLaren was the best car turning, when no one could see it.

So Spa might not suit so well who did great on low speed Hungaroring (I think its 2nd slowest behind Monaco). And then there is rain factor, where fine tunning and driver skills make higher impact. Max is very good in wet same as Hamilton
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Leclerc and Perez P1 and P2, a surprising first row.

McLaren P4 and P5, Verstappen P11 and Hamilton P3, i'm looking forward to this race (3 hour-delay for me).
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Matt, don't read this


Amazing race. Russell with only 1 pit stop managed to hold Hamilton behind him and win the race. Piastri did also great race and finished on Hamilton tail. Hamilton did a good race but Russell was better. Bad race for Ferrari, Leclerc being only 4th and Sainz 7th. Perez from 2nd to 8th (and last of the front pack) while Max only recovered to 5th. Alonso the best of the others.
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George Russell, Master of Strategy and Hamilton 2nd. :mol:
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Lorric wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 18:36 George Russell, Master of Strategy and Hamilton 2nd. :mol:
Russell was DQed - his car was below the weight limit.

Hamilton wins, the amazing lately Piastri 2nd, Ferrari get a podium.

Norris with another bottlejob start.
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Firnen wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 19:13
Lorric wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 18:36 George Russell, Master of Strategy and Hamilton 2nd. :mol:
Russell was DQed - his car was below the weight limit.

Hamilton wins, the amazing lately Piastri 2nd, Ferrari get a podium.

Norris with another bottlejob start.
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I have just seen the race and now i find out that Russell was disqualified. Wow, i feel bad for him, i like when thinking outside the box is rewarded in terms of strategy. On the other hand we wouldn't have won with a regular car.

Piastri made an error at the second pit stop (he went too long at the pit) and lost more than one second, he could have won the race without that, especially after Russell disqualification, or at least have a try on Hamilton.

McLaren gain 9 points on Red Bull, Ferrari 4 on RB.
The Russell disqualification is a disaster for Mercedes, while for the drivers championship Verstappen can sleep well with this Norris and not worry too much.

With this F1 the summer break is unwanted, let's see if we will find again Perez in a RB seat in the next race.
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matt wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 19:40 I have just seen the race and now i find out that Russell was disqualified. Wow, i feel bad for him, i like when thinking outside the box is rewarded in terms of strategy. On the other hand we wouldn't have won with a regular car.

Piastri made an error at the second pit stop (he went too long at the pit) and lost more than one second, he could have won the race without that, especially after Russell disqualification, or at least have a try on Hamilton.

McLaren gain 9 points on Red Bull, Ferrari 4 on RB.
The Russell disqualification is a disaster for Mercedes, while for the drivers championship Verstappen can sleep well with this Norris and not worry too much.

With this F1 the summer break is unwanted, let's see if we will find again Perez in a RB seat in the next race.
Piastri could have a try, he was really fast, but overtaking will overheating tyres and Hamilton having DRS would be different.
Norris was on Verstappen DRS almost all the time after 2nd pit stop and couldn't overtake, Verstappen caught Leclerc in the last laps and couldn't overtake neither. But was a good race, with indecisoin till last, 4 different leaders, different strategies.

I was happy for Russell, I think most were because he risked to do 1 stop, but with a car so beneath minimum weight, there couldn't be other option.
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In Gaelic football, Armagh defeated Galway in the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final. 82,000 people followed the match in the stadium and 1 million people watched the match on TV (the population of the island of Ireland is about 7 million people).
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rpo.castro wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 09:36
matt wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 19:40 I have just seen the race and now i find out that Russell was disqualified. Wow, i feel bad for him, i like when thinking outside the box is rewarded in terms of strategy. On the other hand we wouldn't have won with a regular car.

Piastri made an error at the second pit stop (he went too long at the pit) and lost more than one second, he could have won the race without that, especially after Russell disqualification, or at least have a try on Hamilton.

McLaren gain 9 points on Red Bull, Ferrari 4 on RB.
The Russell disqualification is a disaster for Mercedes, while for the drivers championship Verstappen can sleep well with this Norris and not worry too much.

With this F1 the summer break is unwanted, let's see if we will find again Perez in a RB seat in the next race.
Piastri could have a try, he was really fast, but overtaking will overheating tyres and Hamilton having DRS would be different.
Norris was on Verstappen DRS almost all the time after 2nd pit stop and couldn't overtake, Verstappen caught Leclerc in the last laps and couldn't overtake neither. But was a good race, with indecisoin till last, 4 different leaders, different strategies.

I was happy for Russell, I think most were because he risked to do 1 stop, but with a car so beneath minimum weight, there couldn't be other option.
2 big/important errors were made by the reams
1. Teams thought that passing would be easy at Spa, it was extreme hard
2. Teams thought that a 1 stop would be impossible. Such a pity Russel wasn’t rewarded for it. Even with the extra 1,5 kg the guy in front would stay ahead, due to error 1.

Another remark is that Norris has a problem with starts, again he started badly and due to the passing issue he couldn’t get back in front.. will he improve and wil we get a title race this year?
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Ricardo wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 20:55
rpo.castro wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 09:36
matt wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 19:40 I have just seen the race and now i find out that Russell was disqualified. Wow, i feel bad for him, i like when thinking outside the box is rewarded in terms of strategy. On the other hand we wouldn't have won with a regular car.

Piastri made an error at the second pit stop (he went too long at the pit) and lost more than one second, he could have won the race without that, especially after Russell disqualification, or at least have a try on Hamilton.

McLaren gain 9 points on Red Bull, Ferrari 4 on RB.
The Russell disqualification is a disaster for Mercedes, while for the drivers championship Verstappen can sleep well with this Norris and not worry too much.

With this F1 the summer break is unwanted, let's see if we will find again Perez in a RB seat in the next race.
Piastri could have a try, he was really fast, but overtaking will overheating tyres and Hamilton having DRS would be different.
Norris was on Verstappen DRS almost all the time after 2nd pit stop and couldn't overtake, Verstappen caught Leclerc in the last laps and couldn't overtake neither. But was a good race, with indecisoin till last, 4 different leaders, different strategies.

I was happy for Russell, I think most were because he risked to do 1 stop, but with a car so beneath minimum weight, there couldn't be other option.
2 big/important errors were made by the reams
1. Teams thought that passing would be easy at Spa, it was extreme hard
2. Teams thought that a 1 stop would be impossible. Such a pity Russel wasn’t rewarded for it. Even with the extra 1,5 kg the guy in front would stay ahead, due to error 1.

Another remark is that Norris has a problem with starts, again he started badly and due to the passing issue he couldn’t get back in front.. will he improve and wil we get a title race this year?
Teams are literally saving weight on painting. This 1.5kg is much more then it sounds. It could even be the key to the 1 stop strategy becoming possible.
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TommyChat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 21:20
Ricardo wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 20:55
rpo.castro wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 09:36
Piastri could have a try, he was really fast, but overtaking will overheating tyres and Hamilton having DRS would be different.
Norris was on Verstappen DRS almost all the time after 2nd pit stop and couldn't overtake, Verstappen caught Leclerc in the last laps and couldn't overtake neither. But was a good race, with indecisoin till last, 4 different leaders, different strategies.

I was happy for Russell, I think most were because he risked to do 1 stop, but with a car so beneath minimum weight, there couldn't be other option.
2 big/important errors were made by the reams
1. Teams thought that passing would be easy at Spa, it was extreme hard
2. Teams thought that a 1 stop would be impossible. Such a pity Russel wasn’t rewarded for it. Even with the extra 1,5 kg the guy in front would stay ahead, due to error 1.

Another remark is that Norris has a problem with starts, again he started badly and due to the passing issue he couldn’t get back in front.. will he improve and wil we get a title race this year?
Teams are literally saving weight on painting. This 1.5kg is much more then it sounds. It could even be the key to the 1 stop strategy becoming possible.
In Barcelona, 10 kg means 0.3s per lap so 1,5 would be 0,05s per lap, around 2s full race. But Spa is different, could be less, could be more, it's just a key value.

Russell was defending very good with perfect turn 1 which is key to overtake after Radilllon.

Teams didn't take 1 stop strategy into account. About overtaking, it was relatively easy when tyres were fresh but when they overheated even with DRS was impossible. Looks like teams have found ways to send dirty air despite the regulations changes for simple aerodynamics and cleaner air.


Moving on interesting moves on the teams. Sainz into Williams with a option to move to a bigger team.
Andreas Seidl replaced at Audi by Binotto as COO and CTO while former Red Bull Jonathan Wheatley will be team principal. Good people for Audi, bad news for Red Bull that keeps losing key personnel. Another engineer is linked to move to Ferrari.

Max stayed at RB because they had the best car despite Toto effoorts. Now Max isn't winning and Mercedes is. Certainly this changes the leverage.
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