The Champions League - a league and a cup in one

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Jarecki59
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The Champions League - a league and a cup in one

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In my opinion, the Champions League should have two parts of the competition organized in a completely different way.

• The first part (autumn) should be a league with league levels.
• The second part (spring) should be a cup with knock-out system.

Be it 32 or 36 teams, they should play at different levels of league.

In the presented proposal, two leagues are created.
The first league is made up of 18 best ranked teams from 26 teams that do not have to qualify for the group stage. The second league consists of teams from 19 to 26 and 6 teams that qualified for the group stage of the Champions League, 14 teams together.

A two-tier league solution serves two purposes:

1. Allows you to determine the order of teams to the second part of the Champions League.
2. Allows to create new games in which there will be a winner – new champion. Thanks to this it will be like a super league, but it will be part of the Champions League.

This proposal is similar to the national leagues. As in any national league, a weaker team from a lower league cannot become the national league champion. First it has to advance to the top league and then it can fight for the championship.

On the other hand, in cup competitions, any starting team, even from a lower league, can win, if it only defeat their rivals.
The same is here. A team outside the top 18 cannot win the top league for 18 teams. It must advance to that group first.

However, a team outside the top 18 teams can advance to the Champions League final through the Golden Play-offs and win.
The top 18 teams will create something like a super league. New attractive competitions will be created, it will be possible to win a new champion title. At the same time, everything will be part of the existing Champions League.

There are two proposals.

1. Proposal mini – 6 games rounds.

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1. Top 32 teams in Europe are divided into two league groups. Top 18 teams create one group of Multichampions League and last 14 teams create two groups of Pretenders League.

2. Teams in Multichampions League are divided into 3 levels of the ranking (1 ,2, 3).

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There will be 6 rounds of matches. In individual rounds, teams from each ranking level will play according to the following pattern:

1 round: 1-1, 2-3
2 round: 2-2, 1-3
3 round: 3-3, 1-2
4 round: 1-1, 2-3
5 round: 2-2, 1-3
6 round: 3-3, 1-2

The pairs of teams for the competition can be arranged in many ways. Below I present my proposal.

3. Teams in Pretenders League play one match against each opponent, 3 home and 3 away.

4. The final position of best 16 teams in the Multichampions League will determine the rival in the 1/8 finals and the rest of the Champions League, by rule 1-16, 2-15, 3-14 etc. If any of 16 best teams from Multichampions League does not advance to the 1/8 finals, the team that eliminated them gets the eliminated team position.

5. The number of points scored will determine the order of the teams in the Multichampions League. In the event that two or more teams have the same number of points, a different criterion may be used instead of the goal difference. It is recommended to use Relative points © or any other differentiating indicator (see example below). Thanks to this, points scored with better teams have more value.

6. Two best teams of Multichampions League will play one final match (in a date of Golden play-off). If the teams have already played with each other, then the final will be a rematch for the group match. The team that is better on the aggregate will become the champion. If they haven't played, the final will be on neutral ground.

7. Finalists of Multichampions League will start their Champions League games from the 1/8 finals.

8. 16 Multichampions League teams (3-18), and 12 best teams from Pretenders League will join Champions League at Golden play-off.

9. Last teams from Pretenders League will be eliminated from CL, after competition in groups will finish.

10. The six weakest teams from Pretenders League will start next season from qualifying. This will allow to replace the weakest teams from the iron schema of the 26 teams without qualifying.

11. Teams from places 17-18 of Multichampions League and from Pretender League will be divided into baskets before the Golden Play-off draw.

Relative points and other indicators:

To calculate Relative points, multiply the points scored by the team, with each opponent separately in each match, by the total points scored by the opponent in the group.
To make the game even more objective, it can be given 0.5 points for lose. In this way, the losses will also be differentiated. It is something else to lose to a team that did not lose a match in a tournament and scored many points and another thing to lose to a team that won only one match and has few points. This way, the opponents' unequal level is compensated. The third solution is the degree of difficulty. In this case, we just add up the points scored by our rivals.
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Selection of pairs of teams for the competition:

I propose to create three virtual groups of 6 teams. 5 out of 6 matches will be played by teams in their group, and one match against a team of the same ranking level but from a different group. This way, all teams playing in the group will have opponents of the same difficulty level. There will be one scoreboard for all 18 teams.

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The main advantages of the proposed solution:

1. The proposal fits 2021-24-uefa-club-competitions-scheme.

2. New very interesting competition for really the best teams (Multichampions League and Pretenders League). 32 best teams in Europe will play 98 very interesting matches against each other, playing with teams on the same level, instead of "boring" group games. 54 matches in Multichampions League and 42 matches in Pretenders League.

3. Multichampions League and Pretenders League make the Champions League a real league. UEFA will create the rules of affiliation to the league level.

4. No qualifications needed to start competitions in Multichampions League.

5. Only 15 matches (15 rounds) for the final for Multichampions League (2 more then now!).

6. A very clear tournament bracket from the Golden play-off to the final.

7. Position of 16 best teams in Multichampions League determines rivals in the Champions League from 1/8 final – no draw.

8. Four levels of matches in the knock-out system make the game more attractive.

9. New challenge to win Multichampions League and Champions League in the same season

10. The Multichampions League for best 18 teams, incorporated into the Champions League, are a response to the controversial super league.


2. Proposal maxi – 10 games rounds.

This proposal is based on groups of 9 teams.
Groups of 9 teams are a very convenient solution. It allow you to play 4 matches at home and 4 away. The nine teams group can be divided into 3 levels according to the ranking. Unfortunately, groups of 9 teams also have one disadvantage. Each team in one round of games does not play the match. Let's try to use the existing advantages and at the same time turn the disadvantage into another advantage!
How can we do it?
There will be two groups of 9 teams each. Group A and Group B. In each round, one team from group A and one team from group B do not play the match. Then these teams can play against each other. However, these will not be random teams. Have teams from the same ranking level play against each other. In this way, 9 teams from group A and 9 teams from group B will play against each other in 9 match queues. The match will always be played by teams from the same level in the ranking.

This creates a situation where teams have 4 home games and 5 away games, or vice versa, 5 home games and 4 away games. To solve this problem, let's add one more match queue, in which teams from the same level in the ranking will play against each other again (it will not be a rematch).

Finally, 18 teams will play 10 matches in 10 match queues.

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4 matches with teams from the same level in the ranking and 6 matches (3+3) with teams from the other two levels in the ranking.

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Thanks to this solution, 36 matches will be played between teams in group A, 36 matches between teams in group B and 18 intergroup matches, where teams from group A and group B play against each other. Total 90 matches.

Such a link between the groups will allow to create one table of games at the end of the game.

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1. Top 32 teams in Europe are divided into two league groups. Top 18 teams create two groups of Multichampions League and last 14 teams create two groups of Pretenders League.

2. Teams in Multichampions League will play one match against each opponent in the same group, 4 home and 4 away. Additionally they will play two matches against opponent in other group. This way each team will play 5 matches home and 5 matches away, totally 10 matches in 10 rounds.

3. Teams in Pretenders League play one match against each opponent in the same group, 3 home and 3 away.

4. The final position of best 16 teams in the Multichampions League will determine the rival in the 1/8 finals and the rest of the Champions League, by rule 1-16, 2-15, 3-14 etc. If any of 16 best teams from Golden9 or Silver9 does not advance to the 1/8 finals, the team that eliminated them gets the eliminated team position.

5. The number of points scored will determine the order of the teams in the Multichampions League. In the event that two or more teams have the same number of points, a different criterion may be used instead of the goal difference.

6. Two best teams in each group of Multichampions League will play one final match (in a date of Golden play-off). If the teams have already played with each other, then the final will be a rematch for the group match. The team that is better on the aggregate will become the champion. If they haven't played, the final will be on neutral ground.

7. Finalists of Multichampions League will start their Champions League games from the 1/8 finals.

8. Teams from places 2-9 in group A and teams from places 2-9 in group B will form one table with 16 teams. The number of points will decide on the order of places from 3 to 18.

9. 16 Multichampions League teams (3-18), and 12 best teams from Pretenders League will join Champions League at Golden play-off.

10. Last teams from Pretenders League will be eliminated from CL, after competition in groups will finish.

11. The six weakest teams from Pretenders League will start next season from qualifying. This will allow to replace the weakest teams from the iron schema of the 26 teams without qualifying.

12. Teams from places 17-18 of Multichampions League and from Pretender League will be divided into baskets before the Golden Play-off draw.

The main advantages of the proposed solution:

1. The proposal fits 2021-24-uefa-club-competitions-scheme.

2. New very interesting competition for really the best teams (Multichampions League and Pretenders League). 32 best teams in Europe will play 132 very interesting matches against each other, playing with teams on the same level, instead of "boring" group games. 90 matches in Multichampions League and 42 matches in Pretenders League.

3. Multichampions League and Pretenders League make the Champions League a real league. UEFA will create the rules of affiliation to the league level.

4. No qualifications needed to start competitions in Multichampions League.

5. Pretenders League games will start 3 rounds later to finish qualifications.

6. A very clear tournament bracket from the Golden play-off to the final.

7. Position of 16 best teams in Multichampions League determines rivals in the Champions League from 1/8 final – no draw.

8. Four levels of matches in the knock-out system make the game more attractive.

9. New challenge to win Multichampions League and Champions League in the same season.

10. The Multichampions League for best 18 teams, incorporated into the Champions League, are a response to the controversial super league.

Summary:

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The ideal would be to create two identical league groups: the Multichampions League and the Pretendres League with an identical 18 teams, which would result in 36 teams competing for the Golden Play-offs. This unfortunately requires a change to the 2021-24-uefa-club-competitions-scheme.


Time for changes.
Let's make the Champions League a league and a cup in one.

JS
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