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Lorric wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 22:49
rpo.castro wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 22:47 What happened to Scotland? Did their flight got delayed or did they arrived in another country? Because they weren't seen today in Germany.
There they are. They scored! :lol:

But yeah, lots of their players are at home injured.
Even their goal was scored by Rudiger :dontknow:
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Dragonite wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:51
Lorric wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 21:52 Feel sorry for Scotland. Hope this never happens to England having to go to a tournament with such a massive injury list. And really unlucky with the red card, he's judged the challenge on the ball correctly, but his other leg takes him out. Could have been a red or a yellow I think, and the ref's gone red. 3-0 down and a man down at HT. Perfect opponent for Germany to start their tournament against. Been really easy for them, Scotland no threat at all.
What massive injury list?

It's "just" Hickey and Dykes. You think that yesterday without Ralston and Adams and with Hickey and Dykes instead it would have been any different? :confused:

And the red card is obvious.

Michael S Collins wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 22:05 This is still better than no qualifying because you couldn't beat Moldova or the Faroe island for the record.
I supposing you're comparing Scotland qualifying for Euro 2024 and not for the 2022 World Cup.

Some problems with this comparison.

For starters, qualifying for the Euros is easier, so there isn't necessarily an "improvement", only more spots available.

And in the 2022 World Cup qualifiers, Scotland actually defeated Moldova twice and the Faroe Islands twice.

Lorric wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 22:31 Fullkrug with a thunderous strike into the top corner. He's come off the bench. What does the guy need to do to be considered a first 11 player? Well, hopefully Germany keep making the mistake of not trusting him for that.
He "just" scored one goal against an opponent already losing 0-3 and in numerical disadvantage. Even Ceferin could do it too if he had the chance. :grin1:
Also our talented young forward (in an area we need competence asap), the Bologna midfielder, our first choice right back and our main goalkeeper.

No, Germany would have still won but we made it a bit easy for them. And the depleted squad may be rather more crucial against the other two in the group.

Also I was thinking more of the twenty plus years we didn't qualify for any major tournaments. The Faroes was 2002 and Moldova 2004 but there were many others. Qualifying is far better than not.
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Dragonite wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:51
Lorric wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 21:52 Feel sorry for Scotland. Hope this never happens to England having to go to a tournament with such a massive injury list. And really unlucky with the red card, he's judged the challenge on the ball correctly, but his other leg takes him out. Could have been a red or a yellow I think, and the ref's gone red. 3-0 down and a man down at HT. Perfect opponent for Germany to start their tournament against. Been really easy for them, Scotland no threat at all.
What massive injury list?

It's "just" Hickey and Dykes. You think that yesterday without Ralston and Adams and with Hickey and Dykes instead it would have been any different? :confused:

And the red card is obvious.
And Ferguson and Patterson and Souttar and Doak and I think there's more.

EDIT: Oh, beaten to it. :smile1:
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BurningStorm wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 00:33 Hungary - Switzerland in Cologne: we've seen that Hungary became a "hard to beat team" in tournaments. Switzerland might be slight favorite, but I would predict a draw.

Croatia - Spain in Berlin: another possible draw. Croatia with a clear fan advantage. Spain are often dominant but not so dangerous in the box. 1-1?

Italy - Albania in Dortmund: both teams have their strengths in the defense, I expect a close Italy win, 1-0.
Lorric wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 21:34 I really like this Germany kit. Have they ever incorporated the national flag into their kit like this before?

I wish we would. Have the red cross on the white shirt.
There were a lot of jerseys with the German flag in it. The '90 one when we won the WC or '94, maybe the most popular German jersey ever: https://i.ibb.co/BVNmWD4/adidas-germany-kits-9.jpg
Been a long time then but they have done it before. Definitely prefer the current one though, really like those flags on the shoulder. Thanks. :up:
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rpo.castro wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:05
Lorric wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 22:49
rpo.castro wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 22:47 What happened to Scotland? Did their flight got delayed or did they arrived in another country? Because they weren't seen today in Germany.
There they are. They scored! :lol:

But yeah, lots of their players are at home injured.
Even their goal was scored by Rudiger :dontknow:
I know, I was having some fun with it. :smile1:
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@Michael S Collins , is that a riddle? :grin1:

The "talented young forward", Doak I suppose (correct me if I'm wrong), isn't that important, otherwise he would have been used in the qualifiers.

The Bologna midfielder, Lewis Ferguson, played the qualifiers, but not that much and only as a used sub. He would be a starter now? Instead of who?

The first choice right back was Hickey like I said, if you mean Patterson that's the reserve right back.

The main goalkeeper, Gordon? He didn't play a single minute in the qualifiers, it was Gunn in the first six matches and Clark in the last two.

@Lorric , Souttar is like the 6th or 7th choice central defender in a team that plays with 3.

Michael S Collins wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:31Qualifying is far better than not.
Not qualifying for a Euro where there's room for nearly half of UEFA's members is a humiliation. :wink:
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babaluj1 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 09:18 Only 4 real derbies are played in the group stage, 3 of them in Group B and the one in Group D between France and the Netherlands. :D
Today is the first derby between Croatia vs Spain, two derbies await Italy only after Albania. Although Albania should not be underestimated either, they were the group winners in the qualifiers. :applause:
There is no rivalry between France and the Netherlands (at least from a French perspective).

And, from a Dutch perspective I presume that the games vs Germany or Belgium are much more spicy than vs. France. I leave it to the Dutch members to confirm it or not.
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I seriously think Uefa should go back to 16 teams but that would be bad for business, good for football. The latter they never cared about, unfo.
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Firnen wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 00:10
matt wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 23:59 Tomorrow Italy - Albania will be like an away game for Italy (Albanians will be the majority in the stadium) and will also be almost a derby, in the sense that there are deep connections between Italians and Albanians especially since the 90's. They are probably the best integrated community in Italy.
That's the opposite of a derby, since there is a friendly relationship.

A derby is Albania v Serbia.
I get what you mean, but in my interpretation it's a derby when two teams from the same city or region meet, not necessarily with a deep rivalry between them, though it is often the case.

I think Czech Republic - Slovakia would be considered a derby, though a friendly one.
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Lyonnais wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 13:07
babaluj1 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 09:18 Only 4 real derbies are played in the group stage, 3 of them in Group B and the one in Group D between France and the Netherlands. :D
Today is the first derby between Croatia vs Spain, two derbies await Italy only after Albania. Although Albania should not be underestimated either, they were the group winners in the qualifiers. :applause:
There is no rivalry between France and the Netherlands (at least from a French perspective).

And, from a Dutch perspective I presume that the games vs Germany or Belgium are much more spicy than vs. France. I leave it to the Dutch members to confirm it or not.
I'm talking about derbies as clashes of favourites. France is the first favorite, and the Netherlands is also among the favorites to win the title. :D
Nobody is interested in back-to-back derbies at the European Championship.
So the matches Croatia vs. Spain, Spain vs. Italy, Italy vs. Croatia and France vs. the Netherlands are the most interesting matches of the group stage because the favorites collide with each other. In the other groups, the winners are known in advance.
Yesterday I fell asleep watching Germany vs Scotland with the score 3:0 and Scotland with one less player. A game of cat and mouse, it takes two to tango! :dontknow:
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dandeer wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 13:08 I seriously think Uefa should go back to 16 teams but that would be bad for business, good for football. The latter they never cared about, unfo.
Why would it be "good for football" if 8 of Euro 2024 participants would be watching it on TV instead? :confused:
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@Dragonite because the gap between the top 5-10 and the 20th/24th teams is too great.
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Firnen wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 00:10
matt wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 23:59 Tomorrow Italy - Albania will be like an away game for Italy (Albanians will be the majority in the stadium) and will also be almost a derby, in the sense that there are deep connections between Italians and Albanians especially since the 90's. They are probably the best integrated community in Italy.
That's the opposite of a derby, since there is a friendly relationship.

A derby is Albania v Serbia.
Albania-Serbia sounds more like a balkan war 100+ years later lol
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Poland - Netherlands in Hamburg
The Dutch team looked decent recently, Poland have to play without Lewandowski. He is a specialist of getting injured in useless games before big events, I remember his injury against Andorra right before Bayern - PSG (Bayern went out despite high xG rates and only because of the old away game rule). It would be smarter to rest him in friendlies before a WC or EURO. 1-3.

Slovenia - Denmark in Stuttgart
Denmark looked weaker than in previous tournaments, but they should survive this group for sure. 1-2, Slovenia goal by Sesko.

Serbia - England in Gelsenkirchen
First game where some trouble among fans is possible. 0-2.
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