2023 U17 Euro - Hungary

[Lorric]

Unfortunate that our top seed is hosting. I'd normally think we'd still have a good chance to qualify, but this team has had bad friendly results and couldn't get top seeded out of a weak looking group. We'll just have to see.

Can hosts Turkey do a Japan on Spain and Germany?

Wow, group 2. Just on names that looks like an extraordinarily weak elite round group. Montenegro and Wales did have impressive results though, topping groups they probably wouldn't have been expected to.

[EarlofBug]

Group 1 (22-28 March): Serbia (hosts), Israel, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belarus

Also intersting group here. Serbia (the host) should qualify, but I'm hoping that we can make it.

[amenina]

Thanks to an injury time winner against Cyprus, the Republic of Ireland won Group 6 over Italy by scoring one more goal (level on points and GD) and qualified for the final tournament in Hungary.

Italy (7 pts, +4 GD, 7 GF) will await results from other groups, and will qualify as long as they are not the worst runners-up.

[Diouf]

In the first round, Denmark lost 3-1 to England, while the Netherlands got a late 2-1 win against Northern Ireland.
The second round was today with England beating NI 2-0. Denmark was down 2-0 against Netherlands, but two late goals by Brøndby's Oscar Schwartau gave Denmark one point, so they remain alive in the tournament.
However with England on 6p and Netherlands on 4p facing off in the last round, there is of course the fear that those two sides just draw each other through, if it seems that 5p +1 is enough for NL to be among the 7 best 2nd placed teams.

[amenina]

Since the runner-up in Group 7 cannot have more than 5 points and +1 GD, any team which have at least 6 points and are assured of a top two finish have qualified for the final tournament in Hungary;

Group 3: England
Group 4: Germany
Group 6: Republic of Ireland (qualified after winning group two weeks ago), Italy (assured of qualification after today’s results)
Group 8: France

(Note: Portugal in Group 5, despite having 6 points, are not yet qualified due to the possibility of finishing third in a 3-way tie)

[Lorric]

Good, so while I don't think they would anyway, there is no reason for England to collude.

[Lorric]

Netherlands beat England 1-0 to win the group. Denmark beat NI 4-1 in the other game.

[amenina]

2022/23 Under-17 EURO elite round: Finals line-up set

https://www.uefa.com/under17/news/027d- ... qualified/

The line-up for the finals in Hungary has been decided.

The UEFA European Under-17 Championship elite round has decided the 16-team finals line-up.

The eight group winners and seven runners-up with the best records join hosts Hungary in the finals, to be held from 17 May to 2 June. Bosnia and Herzegovina missed out as the eighth-best runner-up while among the qualifiers are holders France and finals debutants Wales.

The draw is on Monday.

Qualifiers
Hosts: Hungary
Group winners: Croatia, France (holders), Netherlands, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Serbia, Spain, Wales
Best seven runners-up: England, Germany, Italy, Poland, Scotland, Slovenia, Switzerland

Elite round groups

Group 1
Qualified: Serbia (hosts)
Also in group: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belarus, Israel

Group 2
Qualified: Wales (hosts), Scotland
Also in group: Iceland, Montenegro

Group 3
Qualified: Netherlands (hosts), England
Also in group: Denmark, Northern Ireland

Group 4
Qualified: Spain, Germany
Also in group: Türkiye (hosts), Finland

Group 5
Qualified: Portugal (hosts), Poland
Also in group: Czechia, Slovakia

Group 6
Qualified: Republic of Ireland, Italy
Also in group: Ukraine, Cyprus (hosts)

Group 7
Qualified: Croatia, Slovenia
Also in group: Norway (hosts), Belgium

Group 8
Qualified as group winners: France (holders), Switzerland
Also in group: Albania (hosts), Latvia

• France beat Netherlands in the 2022 final to win their third U17 title.

• Other former U17 champions (since 2001/02) into the finals are Netherlands (4 titles), Spain (3), England (2), Portugal (2), Germany (1) and Switzerland (1).

• England, Netherlands and Spain have qualified for a record 15th time since the switch to U17 classification.

• Wales have earned a U17 finals debut, which will make them the 41st different UEFA nation to take part.

[amenina]

2023 U17 EURO finals draw: Monday

https://www.uefa.com/under17/news/0278- ... aw-monday/

In the draw at 17:00 CET on 3 April in Budapest, four groups will be formed for the finals in Hungary from 17 May to 2 June.

The UEFA European Under-17 Championship finals draw, from 17:00 CET on Monday 3 April at Hotel Ensana Thermal Margitsziget, Budapest, will split the 16 contenders including hosts Hungary into four groups of four teams. The top two in each group will advance to the knockout phase.

Hungary will be joined by the 15 teams progressing through the elite round in the finals from 17 May to 2 June, which will also act as UEFA's qualifier for the 2023 FIFA U-17 World Cup in Peru. The five spots will be filled by the four semi-finalists, plus the winners of a play-off between the two beaten quarter-finalists with the best group stage record.

Seeding pots
Hosts: Hungary
Pot 1 (Best seven elite round group winners): France (holders), Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Spain, Netherlands, Croatia, Serbia
Pot 2 (Remaining group winners and best seven runners-up): Wales, Italy, Germany, Poland, England, Switzerland, Slovenia, Scotland

How the draw works

The hosts – Hungary – will be seeded as the first team in Group A (A1). The other 15 participating teams will be split into two pots and drawn into four groups of four teams (Groups A to D).

• Pot 1: the seven best elite round group winners (7 teams).

• Pot 2: the remaining elite round group winner and the seven best runners-up (8 teams).

• The draw starts with Pot 2 from where the teams are drawn to fill position four in each group.

• The order of the draw is as follows:

- One ball is drawn from Pot 2 and the team assigned to position four in Group A; a second ball is drawn and the team assigned to position four in Group B; and so on until Group D.

- The same procedure will apply for position three in each group with the four remaining balls in Pot 2, starting with Group A and ending with Group D.

- Once Pot 2 is empty, the draw continues with Pot 1, using the same procedure as with Pot 2 to fill position two in each group, then position one in Groups B, C and D to complete the draw.

Knockout system
Quarter-finals
QF1: Winner Group A vs Runner-up Group B
QF2: Winner Group B vs Runner-up Group A
QF3: Winner Group C vs Runner-up Group D
QF4: Winner Group D vs Runner-up Group C

Semi-finals
SF1: Winner QF1 vs Winner QF3
SF2: Winner QF2 vs Winner QF4

Final
Winner SF1 vs Winner SF2

[Jackson Harrison]

My usual mock draw:



Feel sorry for Bosnia and Herzegovina

[amenina]

https://www.uefa.com/under17/news/0278- ... nals-draw/

U17 EURO finals draw

Group A: Hungary (hosts), Republic of Ireland, Poland, Wales

Group B: Serbia, Spain, Italy, Slovenia

Group C: Portugal, France (holders), Scotland, Germany

Group D: Croatia, Netherlands, Switzerland, England

[amenina]

2023 Under-17 EURO final tournament: All the fixtures

https://www.uefa.com/under17/news/0280- ... -fixtures/

All kick-off times CET.

U17 EURO group stage fixtures
Matchday 1
Wednesday 17 May

Group A
Poland vs Republic of Ireland (16:30, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)
Hungary vs Wales (20:00, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)

Group C
Scotland vs France (16:30, Nagyerdei Stadium, Debrecen)
Portugal vs Germany (20:00, Nagyerdei Stadium, Debrecen)

Thursday 18 May

Group B
Serbia vs Slovenia (17:00, Telki Training Centre, Telki)
Italy vs Spain (20:00, BSC Stadium, Budaörs)

Group D
Switzerland vs Netherlands (15:00, DEAC Stadium, Debrecen)
Croatia vs England (20:00, Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros)

Matchday 2
Saturday 20 May

Group A
Republic of Ireland vs Wales (16:30, Pancho Arena, Felcsút)
Hungary vs Poland (20:00, Pancho Arena, Felcsút)

Group C
Portugal vs Scotland (15:00, DEAC Stadium, Debrecen
France vs Germany (20:00, Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros)

Sunday 21 May

Group B
Spain vs Slovenia (16:30, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)
Serbia vs Italy (20:00, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)

Group D
Croatia vs Switzerland (16:30, Nagyerdei Stadium, Debrecen)
Netherlands vs England (20:00, Nagyerdei Stadium, Debrecen)

Matchday 3
Tuesday 23 May

Group A
Republic of Ireland vs Hungary (20:00, Pancho Arena, Felcsút)
Wales vs Poland (20:00, BSC Stadium, Budaörs)

Group C
France vs Portugal (15:00, Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros)
Germany vs Scotland (15:00, DEAC Stadium, Debrecen)

Wednesday 24 May

Group B
Spain vs Serbia (17:00, BSC Stadium, Budaörs)
Slovenia vs Italy (17:00, Telki Training Centre, Telki)

Group D
Netherlands vs Croatia (15:00, Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros)
England vs Switzerland (15:00, DEAC Stadium, Debrecen)

U17 EURO knockout fixtures
Quarter-finals
Saturday 27 May

Winner Group A vs Runner-up Group B (15:00, Telki Training Centre, Telki or 20:00, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)
Winner Group B vs Runner-up Group A (15:00, Telki Training Centre, Telki or 20:00, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)
Winner Group C vs Runner-up Group D (15:00, DEAC Stadium, Debecen or 20:00, Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros)
Winner Group D vs Runner-up Group C (15:00, DEAC Stadium, Debecen or 20:00, Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros)

Allocation of kick-off times and stadiums for quarter-finals will be done upon completion of group stage on 24 May .

FIFA U-17 World Cup play-off
Wednesday 30 May

15:00, BSC Stadium, Budaörs or Pancho Arena, Felcsút

The two beaten quarter-finalists with the best group stage record will play off for Europe's fifth place at the 2023 FIFA U-17 World Cup from 10 November to 2 December, joining the four semi-finalists.

Semi-finals
Wednesday 30 May

16:30, BSC Stadium, Budaörs or Pancho Arena, Felcsút
20:00, Pancho Arena, Felcsút

Allocation of kick-off times and stadiums for semi-finals and World Cup play-off will be done upon completion of quarter-finals on 27 May.

Final
Saturday 2 June

Winner SF1 vs Winner SF2 (20:00, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest)

Venues
Hidegkuti Nándor Stadium, Budapest (4 group games. 1 quarter-final, final)
Pancho Arena, Felcsút (3 group games, 2 semi-finals or 1 semi-final & World Cup play-off)
BSC Stadium, Budaörs (3 group games, 1 semi-final or World Cup play-off)
Telki Training Centre, Telki (2 group games, 1 quarter-final)
Nagyerdei Stadium, Debrecen (4 group games)
Balmazújváros City Stadium, Balmazújváros (4 group games, 1 quarter-final)
DEAC Stadium, Debrecen (4 group games, 1 quarter-final)

[Lorric]

I missed your post about the draw. Our group seems fair, two winners, two runners up. A rematch with the team that beat us, but this time they won't be on home ground...

C looks nasty, and I presume that's the group our group is paired up with. Bad news having to go through one of them to qualify for the World Cup. But it is another two winners, two runners up group.

I would have expected one of the groups between B-D to contain three group winners just by looking at them, but surprisingly not. The weak looking group A has the group winner from the second pot, which is Wales.

[wannabeontop]

So Wales are probably favourites to win the group I presume.

[wannabeontop]

Anyone know when the squads will be made available?