2024/25 Europa League: 1st and 2nd qualifying rounds

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emortal wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 15:14
og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 14:25 Finally a friendly draw for Panathinaikos.

In 2022 Slavia Praha was the strongest seeded and we got them.
In 2023 Dnipro wass the strongest seeded and we got them, then Marseille was stongest seeded and we got them, then Braga was the strongest seeded and we got them.
Fifth time was the lucky one.
In what universe is the 8th of Ligue1 considered stronger than the Dutch champion?
Not to mention OM was the lowest-ranked seeded team in Q3!

And in the PO it was 50-50 between Braga and Rangers (with the Scots higher ranked btw.).
Either way you'd claim Panathinaikos got the "strongest".
Not to mention that Dnipro-1 got triple eliminated.
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Decent draw for Kilmarnock but Brugge will be favourites.
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TommyChat wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 15:23 Not to mention that Dnipro-1 got triple eliminated.
Claiming that Dnipro-1 was the "strongest seeded" is evidently absurd, no comment needed.
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MFK Ružomberok (SVK) / FC Tobol (KAZ) vs Trabzonspor A.Ş. (TUR)
KF Llapi 1932 (KOS) / Wisła Kraków (POL) vs SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
Kilmarnock FC (SCO) vs Cercle Brugge KSV (BEL)
Molde FK (NOR) vs Silkeborg IF (DEN)

Paksi FC (HUN) / FC Corvinul Hunedoara (ROU) vs HNK Rijeka (CRO)
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Panathinaikos FC (GRE) vs PFC Botev Plovdiv (BUL) / NK Maribor (SVN)
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bugylibicska wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 02:18 I'd like to see Rijeka and Trabzonspor in the next round from the seeded and Tobol from the unseeded.
Trabzonspor are stronger than Tobol, they're heavy favourites. Rijeka got Paks and they're slight favourites. Cannot pick a tie of the round, most ties have a clear favourite.
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bugylibicska wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 16:50
bugylibicska wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 02:18 I'd like to see Rijeka and Trabzonspor in the next round from the seeded and Tobol from the unseeded.
Trabzonspor are stronger than Tobol, they're heavy favourites. Rijeka got Paks and they're slight favourites. Cannot pick a tie of the round, most ties have a clear favourite.
If Zira knocks off Sheriff, that's the clear tie of the round from a coefficient standpoint. Otherwise, I'd go Molde against Silkeborg
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TommyChat wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 15:23 Not to mention that Dnipro-1 got triple eliminated.
The other option was Genk who was eliminated against a ten-players team.

Panathinaikos played Dnipro-1 while having Dovbyk. After CL games he left.
We all know this player I guess.
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og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:12
TommyChat wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 15:23 Not to mention that Dnipro-1 got triple eliminated.
The other option was Genk who was eliminated against a ten-players team.

Panathinaikos played Dnipro-1 while having Dovbyk. After CL games he left.
We all know this player I guess.
Dnipro-1, from ukraine, when then were playing in poland? How in the world is that considered a though draw by any mean?
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Read my comment above.
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og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:12
TommyChat wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 15:23 Not to mention that Dnipro-1 got triple eliminated.
The other option was Genk who was eliminated against a ten-players team.

Panathinaikos played Dnipro-1 while having Dovbyk. After CL games he left.
We all know this player I guess.
Still you claim Marseille was the worst draw, which was believed before the draw but proved otherwise latter on. And for Dnipro-1 you claim it was the worst draw which was NOT believed before the draw but proved to be latter on.
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Panathinaikos eliminated both, so all this discussion is just assumptions.

Dnipro-1 WITH Dovbyk proved to be a strong opponent, while the other option (Genk) lost against a ten-men Servette (!!!!).

Marseille failed against Panathinaikos, but after that they reached Semi-finals.
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og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:33 Panathinaikos eliminated both, so all this discussion is just assumptions.

Dnipro-1 WITH Dovbyk proved to be a strong opponent, while the other option (Genk) lost against a ten-men Servette (!!!!).

Marseille failed against Panathinaikos, but after that they reached Semi-finals.
Genk and Servette had a better European performance in the end then Dnipro-1 and Panathinaikos respectively. Servette finished 3rd in their EL Group and advanced a round in ECL and lost to penalties in Ro16
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TommyChat wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:38
og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:33 Panathinaikos eliminated both, so all this discussion is just assumptions.

Dnipro-1 WITH Dovbyk proved to be a strong opponent, while the other option (Genk) lost against a ten-men Servette (!!!!).

Marseille failed against Panathinaikos, but after that they reached Semi-finals.
Genk and Servette had a better European performance in the end then Dnipro-1 and Panathinaikos respectively. Servette finished 3rd in their EL Group and advanced a round in ECL and lost to penalties in Ro16
True but irrelevant.

Even Marseille had a better run than Panathinaikos in EL, still we eliminated them in CL. :wink:
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og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:41
TommyChat wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:38
og2002gr wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 20:33 Panathinaikos eliminated both, so all this discussion is just assumptions.

Dnipro-1 WITH Dovbyk proved to be a strong opponent, while the other option (Genk) lost against a ten-men Servette (!!!!).

Marseille failed against Panathinaikos, but after that they reached Semi-finals.
Genk and Servette had a better European performance in the end then Dnipro-1 and Panathinaikos respectively. Servette finished 3rd in their EL Group and advanced a round in ECL and lost to penalties in Ro16
True but irrelevant.

Even Marseille had a better run than Panathinaikos in EL, still we eliminated them in CL. :wink:
I just disagree with underestimating Servette, who finished 2nd and 3rd the past two seasons in a top 12 league.
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It is not about Servette. They did great.
It is about not accepting an opinion rating Dnipro higher than you do.

We don't have to agree, we don't have to persuade each other.
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