Scottish football 24/25

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New thread since there isn't one already?
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League Cup starts tomorrow for the teams not involved in European competition.
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Oldelpaso wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 13:52 League Cup starts tomorrow for the teams not involved in European competition.
Already had 2 MDs.
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An interesting situation that I'd be curious to hear what people think the right course would be:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 9dk10zexeo

TLDR, Partick Thistle needed to win and were trying to bring on a striker but were blocked from doing so because of an admin error on the part of the SPFL. They want a replay.

Imo, the result should stand. Because if Thistle had won anyway, no one would be saying anything. So they essentially took a shot at it and now they want a second shot, which is unfair to Motherwell. If Partick Thistle wanted the striker on, they should have taken their team off the field and forced the issue.

Now what I think should happen, is normally a body like the SPFL would levy fines and such if a club made such an error. It should work in reverse too. A sum of money should be delivered to Thistle as compensation.
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Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 00:42 An interesting situation that I'd be curious to hear what people think the right course would be:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 9dk10zexeo

TLDR, Partick Thistle needed to win and were trying to bring on a striker but were blocked from doing so because of an admin error on the part of the SPFL. They want a replay.

Imo, the result should stand. Because if Thistle had won anyway, no one would be saying anything. So they essentially took a shot at it and now they want a second shot, which is unfair to Motherwell. If Partick Thistle wanted the striker on, they should have taken their team off the field and forced the issue.

Now what I think should happen, is normally a body like the SPFL would levy fines and such if a club made such an error. It should work in reverse too. A sum of money should be delivered to Thistle as compensation.
An alternative which isn't likely to happen now is to play the game from the minute the sub was due to come on. It's all done now but it is a bit unfair the way things worked out.
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Hoopy wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 23:30
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 00:42 An interesting situation that I'd be curious to hear what people think the right course would be:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 9dk10zexeo

TLDR, Partick Thistle needed to win and were trying to bring on a striker but were blocked from doing so because of an admin error on the part of the SPFL. They want a replay.

Imo, the result should stand. Because if Thistle had won anyway, no one would be saying anything. So they essentially took a shot at it and now they want a second shot, which is unfair to Motherwell. If Partick Thistle wanted the striker on, they should have taken their team off the field and forced the issue.

Now what I think should happen, is normally a body like the SPFL would levy fines and such if a club made such an error. It should work in reverse too. A sum of money should be delivered to Thistle as compensation.
An alternative which isn't likely to happen now is to play the game from the minute the sub was due to come on. It's all done now but it is a bit unfair the way things worked out.
That's what I would have expected the replay to be if given, but like I said, it's not fair to Motherwell that they get two goes at it as if they'd won, there'd have been no debate.
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Lorric wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 23:32
Hoopy wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 23:30
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 00:42 An interesting situation that I'd be curious to hear what people think the right course would be:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 9dk10zexeo

TLDR, Partick Thistle needed to win and were trying to bring on a striker but were blocked from doing so because of an admin error on the part of the SPFL. They want a replay.

Imo, the result should stand. Because if Thistle had won anyway, no one would be saying anything. So they essentially took a shot at it and now they want a second shot, which is unfair to Motherwell. If Partick Thistle wanted the striker on, they should have taken their team off the field and forced the issue.

Now what I think should happen, is normally a body like the SPFL would levy fines and such if a club made such an error. It should work in reverse too. A sum of money should be delivered to Thistle as compensation.
An alternative which isn't likely to happen now is to play the game from the minute the sub was due to come on. It's all done now but it is a bit unfair the way things worked out.
That's what I would have expected the replay to be if given, but like I said, it's not fair to Motherwell that they get two goes at it as if they'd won, there'd have been no debate.
Ye it's a strange situation, if Patrick had been winning they might have went for a different sub never noticed a problem and Motherwell might have got a late equaliser.
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Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 00:42 If Partick Thistle wanted the striker on, they should have taken their team off the field and forced the issue.
They would have been kicked out of the competition, with a fine. And been told that they should have finished the game and ask for a replay.
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Overgame wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 00:06
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 00:42 If Partick Thistle wanted the striker on, they should have taken their team off the field and forced the issue.
They would have been kicked out of the competition, with a fine. And been told that they should have finished the game and ask for a replay.
Well, the asking for a replay has been denied. They got an apology, I doubt that'll be much consolation.

I get that it might be a catch 22 and the best course might have been to play on and hope for the best.
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I've never seen a replay in Scottish football it's not something I think has ever happened
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I guess the 4th official will be punished for this. Probably it is not his fault that player wasn't in the list for subs but he also allowed a player that wasn't in the list to sit at the bench for the whole match and even let him warm up in the stadium during the match
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Must set some sort of record. All we've had is Rangers draw 0-0 at Hearts, probably the toughest fixture outside of Celtic, and Celtic beat Kilmarnock 4-0.
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European hangovers for Kilmarnock (0-3 home) and St Mirren (1-3 away). Apparently even thinking about Europe sends Hearts into a tailspin - overrun in the first half away to Dundee, conceding an own goal and penalty in first half injury time, and could't come back in a 3-1 defeat. Celtic wrapped up the points in the first half vs Hibernian and took their foot of the gas, 2-0 victory. They look ominously sharp.
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Lorric wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:52 Image

Must set some sort of record. All we've had is Rangers draw 0-0 at Hearts, probably the toughest fixture outside of Celtic, and Celtic beat Kilmarnock 4-0.
Sounds like cheap publicity. That screenshot looks to have 11 million views on X alone. Looking on Betfair (part of the same parent company) where they make the data public, £18,000 had been staked on Celtic to win the league. Even if PP is significantly bigger than BF, the worst case cost won't be all that high compared to the approx £5 per 1000 impressions it costs to advertise on the big social networks.
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Oldelpaso wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 16:32
Lorric wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:52 Image

Must set some sort of record. All we've had is Rangers draw 0-0 at Hearts, probably the toughest fixture outside of Celtic, and Celtic beat Kilmarnock 4-0.
Sounds like cheap publicity. That screenshot looks to have 11 million views on X alone. Looking on Betfair (part of the same parent company) where they make the data public, £18,000 had been staked on Celtic to win the league. Even if PP is significantly bigger than BF, the worst case cost won't be all that high compared to the approx £5 per 1000 impressions it costs to advertise on the big social networks.
Yeah, Paddy Power do these publicity stunts. At the time, however, you could not bet on Celtic to win the SPL. I looked now though, and you can:

https://www.paddypower.com/football/sco ... =outrights

Not even tiny odds, you can place the bet at 1/4.
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