2024 Paris Olympics

[Chambord]

What I'd like to come, stay and go as Olympic sports, given what's already been discussed on this topic:

COME

Futsal - I can't think of any good reason why it isn't already in the program.

Swimming - 50m events for every style. We need more boom.



STAY

The 5 new sports at LA 28 (baseball/softball, cricket, flag football, lacrosse and squash). I have 0 interest in them as of now. But that might change with a proper showing in LA and most probably Brisbane.

Rhythmic gymnastics and Artistic swimming - 2 of the most spectacular sports. The Olympic movement needs the beauty and artistry they bring.

Rowing - because ROU is good at it. Enough as a valid argument

Volleyball - it's fast, strong, accurate. Has all the coordinates of a staple olympic sport. The Guardian suggestion this should be axed is a bit silly.

Beach volleybal - sports we all play in vacation are mandatory stays.

Breaking - for pure comedic value. Not only Raygun but a lot of other performances had bits under 'so bad it's good' category. Olympics do tend to take themselves way too seriously sometimes and this could provide a much needed balance.

Shooting - no, you do not want to take Yusuf Dikec and Kim Yeji from the people



GO

Men's football, golf, tennis - they're too big and self important to have Olympics as a major target. The worst is Men's football who's treatment of the Olympics because of the greedy clubs is disgusting.

Boxing - until proper cleanup

Swimming - anyting longer than 400m. This has too many events already.

Cycling track Madison - the hand and the crashes. Go hand in hand that is.

[Shing]

I'm not a baseball fan but it is the #1 sport in quite a lot of nations and especially a whole region that isn't represented a lot in the olympics as is. Baseball obviously brings the issue that mens football has, but there is some discussion that MLB will allow its players to compete. If they do, it most definitely belongs at the olympics. Baseball is a big deal in the USA, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and the Caribbean as a whole. But there is no European country in that list so we dismiss it as an irrelevant niche sport...

It's a bit of European arrogance to claim that handball belongs in the OG and baseball doesn't. Nobody outside of Europe gives a flying F about handball. You wan't to compare the worldwide viewing figures of the World Series against whatever champions league/cup Handball has? And even in Europe its popularity is regional. Why should such a niche sport exist at a worldwide event like the olympics? Go have your European championship and don't bother the rest of the world with it. And why are people using that argument against rowing, but not against handball?

Same with cricket T20. Isn't it fair that countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan finaly get to show their best athletes at the olympics? Why do we get our mostly European sports like handball, waterpolo and hockey. But cricket, which is watched by billions around the globe somehow isn't worthy...

Baseball and cricket definitely not niche sport

[Lorric]

I would get it if you guys wanted to kick stuff out to bring stuff in, but you don't seem to want to. Where's the harm in having these things on the schedule? Don't watch them if you don't like them.

[Lorric]

Also I strongly disagree hockey is a European sport. Strong teams come from Asia, Oceania and South America, and North America and Africa send competitive teams.

[rpo.castro]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... iling-golf I don't agree with everything but definitely Olympics now are too bloated. In my view for the chop should go boxing (corrupt to the core and best athletes not participating), horses, rhythmic gymnastics and artistic swimming (these are not sports at all), football (we all love it but again, best players not participating, not really an Olympic sport), golf (still a game for the rich, many other golf tournaments are more important than Olympics) and Greco-Roman wrestling (freestyle wrestling is a more entertaining version and that should be enough). I would also think about reducing the number of events in rowing, track cycling (sorry UK and Netherlands), shooting and diving, really too many similar events. May be there are too many events also in swimming but swimming is one of two most popular Olympic sports, they will never chop events in swimming.

Gulf, boxing, 3x3 basketball, horses, shooting, football, and no niche sports played only in a few countries like softball/baseball, flag football, lacrosse.

“softball/baseball, flag football, lacrosse” are all added for the 2028 Olympics. While I agree that they don’t belong, I think that they are all better than breakdancing or even boxing.

I would also be in favor of eliminating sports like Archery, Badminton, and Skateboarding. I’m not so sure about the value of so many cycling events, Greco-Roman wrestling and maybe even Table tennis.

Greco Roman has been there forever. Is kind of a connection to the original ones. I would kept that. I have no problem with Badminton also and I love cycling events. They are all diferent. Its like you say lets just do 100m and skip all the others until 10k. Or swimming. Whats the problem of having madison, omnium, keirin, pursuit? They are all different.

Breakdance was just exibithion and doesn't belong here. Its a dance, it belongs with other dances.

As for skateboarding I was skeptical and its not something that I truly enjoy but: its very physical, its envolves strengths skills and being precise.
Plus the addition of the 5 new sports in Tokyo (like climbing) had the clear goal of bringing the new generation to the Olympics, those that don't relate to tradicional sports, and I think its great because OG must unite people and try to envolve more people and not alienate them. If there are new sports that fit into sports category, are played worldwide, wth decent popularity, it's a good add.

Archery and shooting are like darts or bowling or pelote basque: its about aiming. You can win a silver medal with a hand in your pocket!

@mavano a sport to be olympic must be widely practiced by men in at least 75 countries and on four continents and by women in no fewer than 40 countries and on three continents
Baseball/softball faills completely this. 2 continents are completely out of the map, women are out of the map and not even close to 75 countries.

Cricket meets the continent criteria, failing in the countries criteria. But at least I enjoy cricket. Baseball for me is one of the most boring sports ever only second to grass growing contest.

[Lyonnais]

https://youtu.be/eEvB7sT6BpA?si=kAkGvc1Rh3NQ3cxV

[mavano]

@mavano a sport to be olympic must be widely practiced by men in at least 75 countries and on four continents and by women in no fewer than 40 countries and on three continents
Baseball/softball faills completely this. 2 continents are completely out of the map, women are out of the map and not even close to 75 countries.

Cricket meets the continent criteria, failing in the countries criteria. But at least I enjoy cricket. Baseball for me is one of the most boring sports ever only second to grass growing contest.

Baseball being boring is a non-argument in the discussion of whether it deserves to be olympic compared to other team sports. Besides, while I agree with you, hundreds of millions don't.

And your first claim is just completely false. What makes you think it won't reach 75 countries? The last World Baseball Classic, which has basically become the Baseball World Cup since 2011, had 20 teams from 5 continents. In the quarter finals all 5 continents were still represented. The edition before that had 4 continents represented at the last 8. Teams from both America's, Asia and Europe have reached the semi finals at least once. When has handball ever shown that diversity at the olympics?

Baseball might not exist in your world, but is much bigger world wide then you seem to think.

[mavano]

Also I strongly disagree hockey is a European sport. Strong teams come from Asia, Oceania and South America, and North America and Africa send competitive teams.

True, I should not have lumped it together with Handball and waterpolo.

[anty1975]

Baseball being boring is a non-argument in the discussion of whether it deserves to be olympic compared to other team sports. Besides, while I agree with you, hundreds of millions don't.

And your first claim is just completely false. What makes you think it won't reach 75 countries? The last World Baseball Classic, which has basically become the Baseball World Cup since 2011, had 20 teams from 5 continents. In the quarter finals all 5 continents were still represented. The edition before that had 4 continents represented at the last 8. Teams from both America's, Asia and Europe have reached the semi finals at least once. When has handball ever shown that diversity at the olympics?

Baseball might not exist in your world, but is much bigger world wide then you seem to think.

South Korea women's handball team had won Olympics in the past, Egypt and Tunisia have strong men's teams, Angola and Brazil very competitive women's teams. So while its true that handball is mainly European sport there are strong teams in all continents except Oceania.

[anty1975]

Btw from 1984 to 2012 South Korea women's handball team always reached at least semis at Olympics. Twice they won, three times were runners up and 3 times lost in the semis. 8 Olympics in a row South Korea made semis in a "European sport", a record in handball for both sexes.

[rpo.castro]

@mavano a sport to be olympic must be widely practiced by men in at least 75 countries and on four continents and by women in no fewer than 40 countries and on three continents
Baseball/softball faills completely this. 2 continents are completely out of the map, women are out of the map and not even close to 75 countries.

Cricket meets the continent criteria, failing in the countries criteria. But at least I enjoy cricket. Baseball for me is one of the most boring sports ever only second to grass growing contest.

Baseball being boring is a non-argument in the discussion of whether it deserves to be olympic compared to other team sports. Besides, while I agree with you, hundreds of millions don't.

And your first claim is just completely false. What makes you think it won't reach 75 countries? The last World Baseball Classic, which has basically become the Baseball World Cup since 2011, had 20 teams from 5 continents. In the quarter finals all 5 continents were still represented. The edition before that had 4 continents represented at the last 8. Teams from both America's, Asia and Europe have reached the semi finals at least once. When has handball ever shown that diversity at the olympics?

Baseball might not exist in your world, but is much bigger world wide then you seem to think.

Widely practiced by men in at least 75 countries
This its not me, its IOC.
Do you understand the meaning of widely?
Tell me 75 countries and the number of players and their population ratio. Baseball is a niche competition, that exists only in a few countries.
Your comparison with handball its just ridiculous 30 million players in the world, strong teams from egypt, tunisia, brazil, south korea.
And since when lack of diversity in the winners means something? Isn't football dominated by same european nations plus brazil and Argentina? How about rugby? Basketball really? How many times china didn't won sports like table tennis? Come on. I like roller hockey but I can say its played worldwide WIDELY despite the next roller games in September having 27 mens teams and 11 womens teams (with teams such as China, India, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Egypt or Australia in both genders) and others like Israel, South Africa besides the usual european, south American, Angola and Mozambique. Baseball isn't global. Breaking would be more global than baseball