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2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:09
by Diouf
The opening ceremony is this Friday, but some of the sports have an early start.

The action kicks off tomorrow with two Men's Football matches (Argentina - Morocco & Uzbekistan - Spain).
The rest of the day will be filled with football and rugby matches.
On Thursday, handball starts as well plus some archery seeding rounds.
And then from Saturday, there will be all kinds of sports on every day.

Schedule: https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/schedule/grid

Nielsen's Gracenote has made their usual medal prediction:
1. United States - 112 medals
2. China - 86 medals
3. Great Britain - 63 medals
4. France - 60 medals
5. Australia - 54 medals
6. Japan - 47 medals
7. Italy - 46 medals
8. Germany - 35 medals
9. Netherlands - 34 medals
10. South Korea - 26 medals.

Note in their list, they rank according to number of medals, while the official table is based on most golds, then most silvers etc.
They predict France winning 27 golds, which will be enough for third place with quite a difference. And then fairly close from 4th and down with GB on 17, Netherlands on 16, Australia on 15, Japan on 13.

https://www.nielsen.com/news-center/202 ... -forecast/

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 13:04
by Diouf
For Denmark, the Danish Sports Federation has set a target of 9-11 medals. There were 11 in Tokyo, 15 in Rio, 9 in London, 7 in Beijing.
Gracenote predicts 14 medals for Denmark.

The most likely candidates for Danish medals are handball, cycling, badminton, sailing, dressage and canoe sprint.

For handball, the expectation is probably medals for both the men and women. However, the format is a bit special in that everythings depends on the quarters. It's two groups of six teams with the top four going through to the quarters. So you basically just have to get through the group, and then everything depends on the quarter final. If you win it, then there are medals for 3 of 4 teams. So it can be okay to have a quite tough group, as long as you get through and then win your quarter.
The Men's side has won the last three World Championships, Silver and Gold at the past two Olympics and Silver and Bronze at the last two European Championships. Denmark and France are around equal favourites for gold, and they are in the same group, so we won't risk them meeting in a quarter.
The Women's side is at their first Olympics since 2012, but in recent years they have returned to the world top. 4th in 2020 EC, 3rd in 2021 WC, 2nd in 2022 EC and 3rd in 2023 WC. France and Norway are gold favourites, but Denmark is the third favoured team. Denmark is in the same group as Norway with France in the other one.

For cycling, it is especially in the track that Denmark usually wins several medals. The Men's Team Pursuit side is usually up there fighting for medals, and some time for gold. And then for both men and women, there are strong options in both madison and omnium. The expectation is probably more than one medal here. In the road cycling, Denmark probably won't be near anything in the time trials. The road race is of course very open and unpredictable, particularly with these tiny bunches of only 90 riders and no radios. We already saw this in Tokyo, where we had maybe the biggest surprise in the modern history of cycling, when Austrian no-name Anna Kiesenhofer won from the early breakaway, as the much favoured Dutch stars hadn't really agreed who of the four had to work for each other, nor were they able to count the number of riders out ahead, so though they had caught the early break aways. I can't remember ever seeing such a small bunch in a Men's race. With teams of max 4 riders, it's extremely unpredictable. It is possible that we just see a group of 10-15 riders getting away early with 1-2 from the major countries, and then just those riders deciding it between them.
For the Men, Mads Pedersen is the second favourite after van der Poel. But a lot depends on how well he recovered from his crash and departure from the Tour de France. For the Women, it would take a bit surprise as Uttrup Ludwig is just returning from a long injury absence. She looked okay at the giro, but I doubt she's at a level where she can beat Kopecky, Longo Borghini or the Dutch.

For badminton, it's mostly in the Men's singles. Reigning champion Viktor Axelsen will go for his third Olympic medal while Anders Antonsen is the 4th seed. In the Men's doubles, Astrup and Skaarup Rasmussen are fourth seeds. The other categories are unlikely to yield any medal. Denmark was supposed to take part in the mix doubles, but Mathias Christiansen misdid his doping whereabouts for the third time, so will likely be suspended. I'm guessing his partner, and girlfriend, Alexandra Bøje is not too pleased :(

For sailing, the big name is Anne-Marie Rindom, who won bronze in 2016 and gold in 2021 in Laser Radial (now ILCA 6). So she will be favoured for another medal. Denmark also has a good history with the 49er boats, but the Men's and Womens team finished 11th and 10th respectively at the last World Championship, so probably aren't favoured for the top spots.

For dressage the top is usually dominated by only a handful of countries, Germany, UK, US and Netherlands. Denmark has usually been quite close in the team result, but it has mostly just been enough for 4th place, not a medal. However, this time the team is said to be stronger than in decades, and particularly Cathrine Laudrup-Dufour could both challenge for individual medals, and help the team into the top three.

Finally, in canoe-sprint Emma Aastrand-Jørgensen won two bronze medals in Tokyo, and one silver in Rio, so she will again be among the top favourites in K1 500m and K2 500m. Maybe the men's K4 500m team have a chance as well.

The above are the six sports mentioned by the federation with likely medals. And then there are outside options in other sports. It could be shooting, rowing or golf. Maybe even in tennis, although it seems like Holger Rune has become injured.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:11
by Lorric
This is a punch to the gut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cjk3vkpxz1po

No more full coverage. Going down from over 3,800 hours of coverage to a paltry 250. It has the advantages of I don't have to do my usual hours and hours of schedule planning and managing three feeds that I would be continually changing, and I probably won't be squeezed as much for getting things done I need to, but it's going to be aggravating. I never normally follow the main channel, as even when they're showing something I want to see, it's better on the dedicated feed for that sport they would have, no waffling in the studio, no interviews, no pretaped segments where one of our athletes is sat in a field playing with a dog and talking about their childhood, when there's sport in progress. And I know they'll be showing sport that doesn't even involve our athletes at times or sport I have no interest in.

I'm surprised someone can just buy up the rights to the next five Olympics (summer-winter-summer-winter-summer) for the whole of Europe. It gets around our laws where if we'd been able to buy the rights for our nation, a pay channel wouldn't have been allowed to bid for it.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:17
by Greyn
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:11 This is a punch to the gut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cjk3vkpxz1po

Going down from over 3,800 hours of coverage to a paltry 250.
According to the BBC article from your link:
Since 2018, the way the BBC covers the Olympics has changed a bit.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:59
by Lorric
Greyn wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:17
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:11 This is a punch to the gut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cjk3vkpxz1po

Going down from over 3,800 hours of coverage to a paltry 250.
According to the BBC article from your link:
Since 2018, the way the BBC covers the Olympics has changed a bit.
I remember full coverage at the last Olympics. And I keep my old schedules, and I made schedules for that Olympics, so I must have been seeing it all somehow.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 15:13
by Greyn
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:59
Greyn wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:17
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:11 This is a punch to the gut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cjk3vkpxz1po

Going down from over 3,800 hours of coverage to a paltry 250.
According to the BBC article from your link:
Since 2018, the way the BBC covers the Olympics has changed a bit.
I remember full coverage at the last Olympics. And I keep my old schedules, and I made schedules for that Olympics, so I must have been seeing it all somehow.
I know Lorric, you misunderstood the point of my post.

I mean it is hilarious that BBC wrote "it has changed a bit" with reducing TV coverage from 3,800 hours to 250. :wink1:

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 15:28
by Lorric
Greyn wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 15:13
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:59
Greyn wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:17

According to the BBC article from your link:

I remember full coverage at the last Olympics. And I keep my old schedules, and I made schedules for that Olympics, so I must have been seeing it all somehow.
I know Lorric, you misunderstood the point of my post.

I mean it is hilarious that BBC wrote "it has changed a bit" with reducing TV coverage from 3,800 hours to 250. :wink1:
Aha. :grin1:

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 16:41
by anty1975
I am particularly interested in swimming, athletics and basketball. In swimming and athletics it should be the best ever Olympics, both sports have grown by leaps and bounds in the last 3 years, so many historic world records fell. From a European perspective of course these are not the most successful sports, in swimming US and Australia dominate, in Athletics US, Jamaica and African countries. But still there are some outstanding European talents like French "new Phelps" (he is coached by former Phelps coach Bob Bowman) Leon Marchand and Ukrainian high jumper Yaroslava Mahuchikh who broke recently one of the oldest WR in Athletics.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 16:48
by seso
Track and field is king in the Olympics!

I will follow Greece vs Canada [basketball] on the 27th!

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 23:06
by Firnen
I don't think France will be 3rd in the medal table, I believe it will be either Australia or Japan again.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:39
by Diouf
Firnen wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 23:06 I don't think France will be 3rd in the medal table, I believe it will be either Australia or Japan again.
Looked at odds for Bet365, and they are also sceptical of such a high figure. But they do have a much higher line to bet on for France than those other competitors. Not sure if one could calculate exactly what their expected gold medal tally is from the odds.

But they have.
France, over/under 25.5 golds, over 2.37, under 1.53
Great Britain, over/under 15.5 golds, over 1.57, under 2.25
Netherlands, over/under 15.5 golds, over 2.00, under 1.72
Australia, over/under 13.5 golds, over 1.72, under 2.00
Japan, over/under 12.5 golds, over 1.61, under 2.20

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:47
by Diouf
The two events that start today both have France as favourites.

For the Men's football, it's France 3.10, Spain 3.50, Argentina 4.33 as the three standout favourites.
For the Men's rugby, it's France 2.75, Argentina 4.00, New Zealand 5.00 and Fiji 5.50 as the four biggest favourites in what looks like a tight tournament.

While the football tournament won't find it's winner until the end of the Olympics, the rugby will find it's winner quite fast.
There are three groups of four teams with the two best 3rd-placed sides going through. All teams will play two matches today, then tomorrow the last group game and quarter finals, and then on Saturday semifinals and medal matches.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 16:56
by Diouf
Diouf wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:47 For the Men's rugby, it's France 2.75, Argentina 4.00, New Zealand 5.00 and Fiji 5.50 as the four biggest favourites in what looks like a tight tournament.
Disappointing start for the home side with only a draw against the US. The Americans had the ball in overtime, but opted to kick the ball out and secure a draw instead of risking going for the win.
Both Argentina and Australia had expected wins against Kenya and Samoa respectively, although both went behind early.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 21:18
by krdel
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:11 This is a punch to the gut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cjk3vkpxz1po

No more full coverage. Going down from over 3,800 hours of coverage to a paltry 250. It has the advantages of I don't have to do my usual hours and hours of schedule planning and managing three feeds that I would be continually changing, and I probably won't be squeezed as much for getting things done I need to, but it's going to be aggravating. I never normally follow the main channel, as even when they're showing something I want to see, it's better on the dedicated feed for that sport they would have, no waffling in the studio, no interviews, no pretaped segments where one of our athletes is sat in a field playing with a dog and talking about their childhood, when there's sport in progress. And I know they'll be showing sport that doesn't even involve our athletes at times or sport I have no interest in.

I'm surprised someone can just buy up the rights to the next five Olympics (summer-winter-summer-winter-summer) for the whole of Europe. It gets around our laws where if we'd been able to buy the rights for our nation, a pay channel wouldn't have been allowed to bid for it.
Apparently it is the same as last time: https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/57822560

And as far the laws are concerned, it only applies to the tv stations in your country. We also have a law that only "public" tv can broadcast some events, but then they are on private stations registered abroad.

Re: 2024 Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 22:41
by Lorric
krdel wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 21:18
Lorric wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 14:11 This is a punch to the gut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cjk3vkpxz1po

No more full coverage. Going down from over 3,800 hours of coverage to a paltry 250. It has the advantages of I don't have to do my usual hours and hours of schedule planning and managing three feeds that I would be continually changing, and I probably won't be squeezed as much for getting things done I need to, but it's going to be aggravating. I never normally follow the main channel, as even when they're showing something I want to see, it's better on the dedicated feed for that sport they would have, no waffling in the studio, no interviews, no pretaped segments where one of our athletes is sat in a field playing with a dog and talking about their childhood, when there's sport in progress. And I know they'll be showing sport that doesn't even involve our athletes at times or sport I have no interest in.

I'm surprised someone can just buy up the rights to the next five Olympics (summer-winter-summer-winter-summer) for the whole of Europe. It gets around our laws where if we'd been able to buy the rights for our nation, a pay channel wouldn't have been allowed to bid for it.
Apparently it is the same as last time: https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/57822560

And as far the laws are concerned, it only applies to the tv stations in your country. We also have a law that only "public" tv can broadcast some events, but then they are on private stations registered abroad.
Well, it says they had 350 hours. Perhaps they had continuous coverage on both BBC1 and BBC2 at the same time as well as another stream. That might have been enough for me to remember full coverage. I wonder if I managed to stream some elsewhere.

EDIT: Had a look at the previous Olympics thread. Takes until 12 pages in to get past the opening ceremony! I didn't have anything to say about the coverage as far as I could tell, unless I did it on an earlier page as I was going 2 at a time to get to the start. Just posting about things happening in the Olympics. I was doing it somehow.