Teams you wanna return to highest divisions

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Post by apw »

I would like to see Farense in top division in Portugal, they have a lovely stadium and they would attract a good following from tourists and expat fans similiar to Malaga in Spain.

I would also say Malaga to la liga but this will probably happen anyway - i hope !
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Post by porto-1978 »

apw, Algarve Stadium is shared by Farense and Louletano, being located between the two municipalities of Faro and Loulé. And at the moment Louletano is closer to get to the main level. Still it´s only at 3rd level and will stay there for at least one more year.
From Algarve there´s Olhanense and Portimonense at the second level. Portimão is quite distant but Olhão is very close to Faro and Algarve Stadium. By now Olhanense have some chances to get promotion already this season. I´m not sure but i think they can get the right to play there if they manage to be promoted. At least they may try... Olhanense is the club from Algarve with better historical performances so maybe they have a point in representing the region that gives the name to the stadium, playing there, if they get in first league with no other club from Algarve being that high.

By the way, i´d like to see at main level in Portugal:

Clubs from regions with no club representing them at the moment:
Desportivo Chaves (Trás-os-Montes)
Académico Viseu, Sporting Covilhã (Beira Interior)
Lusitano Évora, O Elvas, Campomaiorense (Alentejo)
Olhanense, Portimonense, Louletano, Farense (Algarve)
Santa Clara, Lusitânia (Açores)

Clubs from regions already represented:
Rio Ave, Gil Vicente, Varzim (Entre-Douro-e-Minho)
Beira-Mar, Feirense (Beira Litoral)
Alverca, Barreirense (Vale do Tejo)
União (Madeira)

Clubs from 2 major cities (but just if the portuguese league had 20 clubs):
Salgueiros (Porto)
Atlético (Lisboa)

In other words i´d like that portuguese league was not played only in the litoral between Braga and Setúbal plus Madeira island, as ourdays. The more diversity better. And I also care about good stadiums, they must be used if they are good. So in some way I root for clubs such as Beira-Mar or Farense/Louletano so that their stadiums can be used. Algarve case it´s a shame, only with Louletano could be host games at second level but by now not even that.
But that´s not all and so some of the clubs i´ve pointed out don´t have a decent stadium for fisrt level games (Salgueiros, Atlético, Feirense, Varzim, Portimonense, Lusitânia, Elvas, Campomaiorense, Covilhã, Lusitano, Chaves, at least) but some of them are not inferior to stadiums that host first league games ate the moment (Naval, Nacional, Paços Ferreira, Estrela Amadora, Leixões).
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Post by Lubomir25 »

I would love to see Queens Park become a FOrce in scottish football again, they have won 10 scottish cups in there history! which is more than any team outside the Old Firm.

And a more interesting fact, in the early years of scottish football, if Celtic played Queens Park, Rangers fans cheered on Celtic, and Vice Versa!

This is due to the fact that Queens Park were once the Biggest team in Glasgow and overshadowed the Old Firm!!
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Post by garfield335 »

Kaiser wrote:

Kaiserslautern will play next year in the third devision :(
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Post by Kaiser »


66 - Numancia
57 - Malaga
52 - Gijon
51 - Real Sociedad
49 - Elche
47 - Castellon

Numancia is almost Primera participant

70 - West Bromwich
70 - Bristol
69 - Stoke
68 - Hull
68 - Watford
62 - Crystal Palace
61 - Ipswich
61 - Wolverhampton
60 - Charlton
59 - Plymouth
58 - Burnley
57 - Cardiff
57 - Sheffield United

72 - Chievo
70 - Bologna
68 - Albinoleffe
66 - Lecce
63 - Brescia

69 - Le Havre
63 - Nantes
54 - Troyes
52 - Grenoble

Le Havre needs one win to be sure Ligue 1 participant

52 - Mönchengladbach
50 - Hoffenheim
47 - Köln
46 - Mainz
44 - Greuther Fürth
43 - Freiburg

74 - Volendam
74 - Waalwijk
70 - Den Bosch
64 - Zwolle

69 - Hamilton
65 - Dundee

Does anyone have any data on Portuguese league?
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Post by AlanK »

Update to Kaiser's ranking in the Spanish Second Division:

Sporting---------52 Has tie-breaker vs Real Sociedad
Real Sociedad---52 Tied in Vigo with Celta
Elche-------------50 Tied in Tenerife
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Post by Kaiser »

I wanna Rio Ave and Gil Vecente to be promoted.

In general terms I want Penafiel to be promoted but their current place doesn't allow me to say this :)
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Eskisehirspor of course. And they will return next season :P
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Post by apw »

It may not be the top division but Aldershot are on the verge of returning to the Football league after a 16 year absence.

Give a few years and the real Wimbledon now known as AFC Wimbledon may follow :lol:
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Post by Kaiser »


England: Stoke and West Bromwich are promoted, Hull, Crystal Palace, Bristol, Watford/Wolverhampton/Ipswich/Sheffield United will play playoffs for promotion.

Spain: almost all teams have chance to be promoted. Numania is a leader so far, chased by Malaga and Gijon.

Italy: 1. Chievo, 2. Albinoleffe, 3. Lecce, 4. Bologna.

France: Le Havre and Nantes are promoted, Grenoble, Troyes, Clermont, Brest, Bastia, Sedan, Ajaccio are fighting for promotion.

Germany: 1. Mönchengladbach, 2. Köln, 3. Hoffenheim, 4. Mainz, 5. Greuther Fürth, 6. Freiburg.

Portugal: 1. Rio Ave, 2. Trofense, 3. Gil Vicente, 4. Vizela, 5. Olhanense.

Netherlands: Volendam is promoted.

Scotland: Hamilton is promoted.

Belgium: Kortrijk is promoted, Tubize will play playoffs.
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Celta and Real Sociedad in Spain.

Kaiserslautern, Köln and Borussia Mönchengladbach in Germany.

Chievo, Bologna and Lecce in Italy.

Dundee United in Scotland.

Norwich and Wolverhampton in England.

And Mechelen in Belgium.
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Post by gukfvaEU »

ENGLAND: Stoke 78, West Bromwich 77, Hull 72, Crystal Palace 71, Bristol 71, Watford 69, Wolverhampton 67, Ipswich 66
SPAIN: Numancia 68, Malaga 64, Sporting 55, R. Sociedad 53, Castellon 50, Elche 50, Sevilla II 49, Hercules 47
ITALY: Chievo 77, Albinoleffe 74, Lecce 73, Bologna 72, Brescia 67, Pisa 65, Rimini 54, Mantova 52
FRANCE: Le Havre 74, Nantes 68, Grenoble 58, Troyes 57, Clermont 53, Brestois 50, Bastia 49, Sedan 49
GERMANY: Borussia 56, Koln 51, Hoffenheim 50, Mainz 49, Greuter 47, Freiburg 46, Alemannia 42, Koblenz 40
PORTUGAL: Rio Ave 47, Trofense 47, Gil Vicente 43, Vizela 41, Olhanense 41, Beira Mar 39, Estoril 38, Freamunde 35
RUSSIA: Sibir 15, Ural 15, Rostov 13, Alanya 13, Anzhi 13, Kuban 12, Energiya 11, NoSta 10
NETHERLANDS: Volendam 77, Waalwijk 77, Den Bosch 70, Zwolle 67, Maastricht 60, ADO 58, Helmond 58, Oss 55
SCOTLAND: Hamilton 76, Dundee 69, St Johnstone 58, Queen of the S. 52, Dunfermline 51, P. Thistle 45, Livingston 39, Greenock 37
TURKEY: Antalyaspor 57, Sakarya 55, Kocaelispor 55, Eskisehirspor 53, Erciyesspor 49, Orduspor 49, Diyarbakirspor 48, Karsiyaka 45
UKRAINE: Illychyvets 60, Obolon 52, Desna 50, Lviv 48, Dynamo II 45Volyn 45, Simferopol 43, Aleksandriya 41
BELGIUM: Kortrijk 70, Tubize 65, Oud Heverlee 57, KVSK United 57, Royal Antwerp 52, Lierse 50
GREECE: Panserraikos 48, Giannica 46, T. Fylus 46, Kallithea 44, Ionikos 44, Panthrakikos 42, Ethnikos 41
CZECH: Bohemians 44, Hradec Kralove 44, Fulnek 39, Slovacko 38, Opava 38, Pribram 35, HFK Olom. 34, Banik 33
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