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If i am not mistaken in case both CL and EL winners qualify though their league then the thampions of association 11 and 12 will qualify for the cl groups. Question for betrayor: knowing that Olympiakos is the most hated team in Greece and having won 19 of the latest 21 national championships... In...

Why do you miss so much time and topics complaining about UEFA changing rules to benefit big leagues? This topic was about the importance of finishing 11th, so the national champion would get direct access to the UCL GS. And again you start discussing about the fairness of having 4 direct spots in t...

And there is still more than one good teams in countries below 15th place. So, they won't be in able to have 2 teams in group stages, so no way that country ranking can go up . I disagree. In 2002, Kazakhstan was out of European competitions. This is their progression since then: 2003: 50th 2004: 5...

Greyn wrote:A bit off-topic, but there is no sense to open a new thread.
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Sorry for the "on-topic": Summary: While the quality of the 4th Spanish team has been decaying over the last few years, it’s still much better than the quality of the 1st placed team in most countries. So, performance of the 4th Spanish team was pretty good in past years, and it's above av...

And remind that one of the failures of Portugal was Paços de Ferreira, that was a one-time phenomenon. The problem with the 4th spanish team is the fact of Real Sociedad ended with 1 point in GS LOL So, Paços is allowed to be a failure, because is a one-time phenomenon, but you think that Real Soci...

I believe the 3rd from Russia or Portugal, or the 2nd of Ukraine is no worse than the 4th of any of the top countries The 2nd team from Russia had worse performances than the 4th team from Spain. The 3rd team from Portugal didn't even qualify 2 out of 4 times. The 2nd team from Ukraine was even eli...

It has been said many times in this forum that Spanish 4th team always under-performs in the Champions League. Well, I have been looking at the performance of the teams that finished lowest in their leagues and had a spot in the UCL over the last 4 seasons and this is the result. (Chelsea finished 6...

Manchester City failed to advance from the CL groups twice recently (and almost happened a third time, already with Pellegrini, so no “dumb Mancini” excuse), while Celtic advanced thrice recently. I don't like much that type of arguments to forecast a team's performance. Real Madrid was eliminated ...

I like that Rostov are so heavy underdogs, but why longer odds to qualify than Celtic? Both have zero chances in my mind, but why Rostov`s zero is much fatter than Celtic`s? My guess: because of the calendar. Being Bayern and Atletico heavy favorites to qualify in group D, one of them may already b...

After yesterday's draw, variations in chances of winning the UCL: Tottenham +63% Leicester +51% Porto +50% Juve +30% Dortmund +24% Benfica +20% Lyon +20% Celtic +7% Atletico +6% Bayern +5% Barcelona = Real = PSG = Arsenal = Napoli = Leverkusen = Monaco = D. Kiev = Brugge = Basel = Legia = Copenhagen...

Inter - Southampton - Sparta Praha, group of death? Will they get Nice?

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https://s14.postimg.io/y1kzgccap/ucl2017odds.jpg As per odds of winning the Champions League, presented in a graph in inverse logarithmic order, there is a small chance this year of having a group of death. Teams to avoid from pot 1: the usual 3 (Barcelona, Bayern, Real) Teams to get from pot 1: Le...

kroftek wrote:Austrians can finally relax, there's no way that Salzburg gets eliminated at this stage again.

Really?