Nations League

[kaerin]

Instead of adding one more, UEFA should cancel licences of San Marino, Faroe Islands and co. Let them join their parent country. They don't even have a local league, recognized by UEFA. 50 countries would do.

They all have a local league (except Liechtenstein)
a few are not independant states (Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, and one could argue over Kosovo)

They might have a local league of some mailmen playing some bakers but can they even meet UEFA EL License Requirements? If minimum club requirements can't be met why allow a rock like Gibraltar to play along with real countries? And the British situation isn't the best example of having an own league either, with Swansea in BPL.

Indeed. Leader of Faroe Islands local league? Which team was that and did that team play in UEFA Europa League? If answer is no, then no need for that country.

[HibeeJibee]

UEFA should have had 4 teams in every section in divisions A, B & C... with the remaining 7 playing single-round-robin in Division D, top 2 promoted; 4x bottom in Division C playoff for relegation.

Suspect they haven't done that so the big nations can still play glamour friendlies with South Americans and £££ friendlies with Middle Easterns - but would be simpler. At very least 16 in Division C / 15 in Division D, to avoid relegation complications.

[Forza AZ]

Instead of adding one more, UEFA should cancel licences of San Marino, Faroe Islands and co. Let them join their parent country. They don't even have a local league, recognized by UEFA. 50 countries would do.

How can San Marino join their parent country? It is the oldest independent country in Europe, already since 301.

[betrayor]

They all have a local league (except Liechtenstein)
a few are not independant states (Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, and one could argue over Kosovo)

They might have a local league of some mailmen playing some bakers but can they even meet UEFA EL License Requirements? If minimum club requirements can't be met why allow a rock like Gibraltar to play along with real countries? And the British situation isn't the best example of having an own league either, with Swansea in BPL.

Indeed. Leader of Faroe Islands local league? Which team was that and did that team play in UEFA Europa League? If answer is no, then no need for that country.

Faroe sent 4 teams in Europe this year,Champions Vikingur Geta managed to get through the first round by beating Kosovo Champions Trepca.
They were elminated in the second round by the Icelander Champions FH.
All 3 Faroe teams(KÍ Klaksvík,NSÍ Runavík and B36 Tórshavn) were elminated in the first round of europa league.

As far as I know all nations that compete in the Fifa qualifiers sent teams to both Champions League and Europa League this year.

[Forza AZ]

As far as I know all nations that compete in the Fifa qualifiers sent teams to both Champions League and Europa League this year.

Indeed, all UEFA members have teams in CL and EL (Liechtenstein only in EL because they don't have a league). And only Gibraltar clubs had problems this years with their stadium, so had to play in another country.
They have played in their own country before however, so I guess it should not be that big a problem to play at home again soon.

A fw of these small countries have a very low level, so you could argue that their national teams should play a preliminary round to avoid high scores in the main round. But excluding them alltogether would be just stupid.

[Lorric]

These teams won't improve by being walled off behind a preliminary wall. Iceland have changed everything about perceptions of what the upper limits for tiny population countries are. 340,000 in a country with sub-optimal playing conditions. If they can do what they're doing, then so can Luxembourg, so can Malta, so can Leichtenstein potentially. They don't even have to qualify for tournaments, if they're getting 4th in a group like the Faroes with 50,000, they're competing. Andorra gave me a massive scare vs England U21 yesterday. Iirc Leichtenstein have taken points off Portugal in the past. San Marino beat Wales U21 not too long ago. I think they drew with Greece U21 too.

[betrayor]

So now that rankings are final which team from League D do you see as more likely to get the Euro 2020 spot?

[kaerin]

Instead of adding one more, UEFA should cancel licences of San Marino, Faroe Islands and co. Let them join their parent country. They don't even have a local league, recognized by UEFA. 50 countries would do.

How can San Marino join their parent country? It is the oldest independent country in Europe, already since 301.

But aren't all Italians? I have been to San Marino, two years ago, completely same country within Italy, regarding language, culture etc. you name it. They should just join to parent country, in this case Italy. What they offer or add to European football? Seriously speaking?

[Falco]

So now that rankings are final which team from League D do you see as more likely to get the Euro 2020 spot?

Azerbaijan would be my bet, or possibly Luxembourg if they continue to build on their recent good form

[Falco]

Instead of adding one more, UEFA should cancel licences of San Marino, Faroe Islands and co. Let them join their parent country. They don't even have a local league, recognized by UEFA. 50 countries would do.

How can San Marino join their parent country? It is the oldest independent country in Europe, already since 301.

But aren't all Italians? I have been to San Marino, two years ago, completely same country within Italy, regarding language, culture etc. you name it. They should just join to parent country, in this case Italy. What they offer or add to European football? Seriously speaking?

If you're going to argue that the same language makes you the same country, maybe the USA players should represent England or Austrian players, Germany

[Falco]

In addition to the playoffs for Euro qualification, there is also a four team playoff between the Group A winners for the Euro League title itself. According to UEFA, this will take place in June 2019, with the four teams involved being placed into 5 team groups for the Euro Qualifiers and their two bye weeks being scheduled for that month.

[Forza AZ]

So now that rankings are final which team from League D do you see as more likely to get the Euro 2020 spot?

Azerbaijan would be my bet, or possibly Luxembourg if they continue to build on their recent good form

Macedonia also is a contender for this spot I think.

[amirbachar]

In addition to the playoffs for Euro qualification, there is also a four team playoff between the Group A winners for the Euro League title itself. According to UEFA, this will take place in June 2019, with the four teams involved being placed into 5 team groups for the Euro Qualifiers and their two bye weeks being scheduled for that month.

I've finished the Euro 2020 Qualifying simulation, including the nations league.
Here are the probabilities for the first Nation League Winner:
Team winner
Germany 0.31
Spain 0.17
Portugal 0.13
France 0.09
Belgium 0.07
Italy 0.06
England 0.06
Switzerland 0.03
Netherlands 0.03
Poland 0.02
Croatia 0.02
Iceland 0.02

[Ricardo]

How can San Marino join their parent country? It is the oldest independent country in Europe, already since 301.

But aren't all Italians? I have been to San Marino, two years ago, completely same country within Italy, regarding language, culture etc. you name it. They should just join to parent country, in this case Italy. What they offer or add to European football? Seriously speaking?

If you're going to argue that the same language makes you the same country, maybe the USA players should represent England or Austrian players, Germany

And we would have an independend catalonia!

[Ricardo]

In addition to the playoffs for Euro qualification, there is also a four team playoff between the Group A winners for the Euro League title itself. According to UEFA, this will take place in June 2019, with the four teams involved being placed into 5 team groups for the Euro Qualifiers and their two bye weeks being scheduled for that month.

I've finished the Euro 2020 Qualifying simulation, including the nations league.
Here are the probabilities for the first Nation League Winner:
Team winner
Germany 0.31
Spain 0.17
Portugal 0.13
France 0.09
Belgium 0.07
Italy 0.06
England 0.06
Switzerland 0.03
Netherlands 0.03
Poland 0.02
Croatia 0.02
Iceland 0.02

in reversal order are these the chances of the teams chances to be demoted to league B in the next cycle(fall 2020-June 2021)