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FA Cup semi-finals: Coventry to face Manchester United, Manchester City to play Chelsea.
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bugylibicska wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 20:56 FA Cup semi-finals: Coventry to face Manchester United, Manchester City to play Chelsea.
ok, I predict a good Manchester derby in the Final
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angel_87 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 21:23
bugylibicska wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 20:56 FA Cup semi-finals: Coventry to face Manchester United, Manchester City to play Chelsea.
ok, I predict a good Manchester derby in the Final
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Clearly you enjoy going out on a limb 😂
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If a team from the Danish league beat Manchester United, who's to say a Championship side can't do it if things go right for them?

We might have the first lower division finalist since... Cardiff in 2008, I think?
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WS marks - Update after MD29 (3/4 of the season)


Top 10

8.18 Bukayo Saka (Arsenal, FWR, 22, ENG)
8.09 Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa, FW, 28, ENG)
8.07 Rodri (Man City, DMC, 27, ESP)
8.03 Son Heung-Min (Tottenham, FW, 31, KRS)
8.00 Pascal Gross (Brighton, DMC, 32, GER)
7.99 Phil Foden (Man City, AMR, 23, ENG)
7.87 Erding Haaland (Man City, FW, 23, NOR)
7.82 Declan Rice (Arsenal, MC, 25, ENG)
7.82 Kieran Trippier (Newcastle, DR, 33, ENG)
7.81 Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool, DC, 32, NED)
etc.


Best XI

................. A.Gordon (Newcastle) - O.Watkins (A.Villa) - B.Saka (Arsenal) ...................
............................... P.Gross (Brighton) - Rodri (M.City) - D.Rice (Arsenal) .................
A.Robinson (Fulham) - V.van Dijk (Liverpool) - C.Romero (Tottenham) - K.Trippier (Newcastle)
...................................................... A.Areola (W.Ham) .........................................


U21 Players

7.28 Alejandro Garnacho (Man United, AML, 19, ARG)
7.27 James Trafford (Burnley, GK, 21, ENG)
7.16 Destiny Udogie (Tottenham, DL, 21, ITA)
etc.


Best per club

8.18 Bukayo Saka (Arsenal, FWR, 22, ENG)
7.81 Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool, DC, 32, NED)
8.07 Rodri (Man City, DMC, 27, ESP)
8.09 Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa, FW, 28, ENG)
8.03 Son Heung-Min (Tottenham, FW, 31, KRS)
7.73 Bruno Fernandes (Man United, AMC, 29, POR)
7.72 Jarrod Bowen (West Ham, FW, 27, ENG)
8.00 Pascal Gross (Brighton, DMC, 32, GER)
7.78 Matheus Cunha (Wolves, FW, 24, BRA)
7.82 Kieran Trippier (Newcastle, DR, 33, ENG)
7.57 Cole Palmer (Chelsea, AMR, 21, ENG)
7.53 Joao Palinha (Fulham, DMC, 28, POR)
7.68 Dominic Solanke (Bournemouth, FW, 26, ENG)
7.48 Eberechi Eze (C.Palace, AMC, 25, ENG)
7.22 Ethan Pinnock (Brentford, DC, 30, JAM)
7.51 James Tarkowski (Everton, DC, 31, ENG)
7.50 Morgan Gibbs-White (N.Forest, AMC, 24, ENG)
7.71 Ross Barkley (Luton, MC, 30, ENG)
7.27 James Trafford (Burnley, GK, 21, ENG)
7.07 Vinicius Souza (Sheffield Utd, MC, 24, BRA)
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XG analysis


XPts

Current table is rather logical as per the XG analysis at least for the top positions. Arsenal leading in front of Man City, this is brilliant.
With better efficiency teams like Newcastle, Chelsea or Brighton would be in the European positions.
Man United benefit from an excellent defensive efficiency (finally Onana after a difficult start looks like doing a good season) whereas Breentford should comfortably sit in mid-table but lack of offensive and defensive efficiency

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Xpts	Pts	Difference		
60,26	64	3,74 	-	Arsenal
59,82	63	3,18 	-	Man City
55,03	64	8,97 	-	Liverpool
47,71	56	8,29 	-	Aston Villa
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44,62	40	-4,62 	-	Newcastle
44,48	39	-5,48 	-	Chelsea
43,33	42	-1,33 	-	Brighton
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42,85	53	10,15 	-	Tottenham
41,91	31	-10,91 	-	Everton
39,26	26	-13,26 	-	Brentford
38,22	35	-3,22 	-	Bournemouth
36,00	47	11,00 	-	Man United
34,99	25	-9,99 	-	Nottingham Forest
34,90	44	9,10 	-	West Ham
34,33	38	3,67 	-	Fulham
33,58	29	-4,58 	-	Crystal Palace
30,90	41	10,10 	-	Wolves
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25,51	22	-3,51 	-	Luton
25,06	17	-8,06 	-	Burnley
18,57	14	-4,57 	-	Sheffield United

Offensive efficiency (XG v goals socred)

Poor Everton ...

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XG	Goals	Difference		
61,19	70	8,81 	-	Arsenal
54,05	59	4,95 	-	Tottenham
56,24	60	3,76 	-	Aston Villa
42,49	46	3,51 	-	West Ham
40,32	42	1,68 	-	Wolves
(...)
45,47	39	-6,47 	-	Man United
47,57	41	-6,57 	-	Bournemouth
53,88	47	-6,88 	-	Chelsea
49,02	41	-8,02 	-	Brentford
48,95	29	-19,95 	-	Everton

Defensive efficiency (XGA v goals conceded)

Luton on trop, great but 71 goal chances conceded in 29 games, this is not sustainable

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XGA	GA	Difference		
71,45	60	-11,45 	-	Luton
50,15	39	-11,15 	-	Man United
35,15	26	-9,15 	-	Liverpool
53,12	44	-9,12 	-	Wolves
52,43	44	-8,43 	-	Fulham
(...)
45,20	48	2,80 	-	Crystal Palace
48,16	54	5,84 	-	Brentford
43,84	51	7,16 	-	Nottingham Forest
54,81	63	8,19 	-	Burnley
64,64	74	9,36 	-	Sheffield United

Individual efficiency


Son still very performant. Declan Rice is not only an excellent midfielder but looks like being a great scorer as well (6 goals for a defensive midfielder, not bad)
Some unexpected names at the bottom

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XG	Goals	Difference		
9,01	14	4,99 	-	Son Heung-Min (Tottenham)
1,86	6	4,14 	-	Declan Rice (Arsenal)
10,62	14	3,38 	-	Jarrod Bowen (West Ham)
4,70	8	3,30 	-	Leon Bailey (Aston Villa)
5,93	9	3,07 	-	Diogo Jota (Liverpool)
				
7,47	4	-3,47 	-	Bruno Fernandes (Man United)
22,38	18	-4,38 	-	Erling Haaland (Man City)
13,54	9	-4,54 	-	Nicolas Jackson (Chelsea)
15,66	10	-5,66 	-	Darwin Nunez (Liverpool)
9,47	3	-6,47 	-	Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton)
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Nottingham Forest points deduction: Loss of four points drops club into relegation zone.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68594865

17 Luton Town 22 pts
18 Nottingham Forest 21 pts
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City got devastated in the international break. All these guys got injured, and right before the Arsenal game:

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Big players.
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Lorric wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 13:12 City got devastated in the international break. All these guys got injured, and right before the Arsenal game:

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Big players.
Where did you get this?
First time I am reading there is a problem with Ruben Dias or Bernardo Silva. I ve searched for it and found 0 about it.
Kyle Walker should play against Arsenal.

Stones and Matheus Nunes (not a key player) are the one facing longer injuries. Akanji should return soon but probably not against Arsenal.

Some Man. City supporters trying to get some excuses if Arsenal wins the match? If there is a team that could field two really strong teams its City, but its not even the case. Its not that many players.

Edit: and I forgot Haaland who is a non problem as he stated having no problem at all!
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rpo.castro wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 14:06
Lorric wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 13:12 City got devastated in the international break. All these guys got injured, and right before the Arsenal game:

Image

Big players.
Where did you get this?
First time I am reading there is a problem with Ruben Dias or Bernardo Silva. I ve searched for it and found 0 about it.
Kyle Walker should play against Arsenal.

Stones and Matheus Nunes (not a key player) are the one facing longer injuries. Akanji should return soon but probably not against Arsenal.

Some Man. City supporters trying to get some excuses if Arsenal wins the match? If there is a team that could field two really strong teams its City, but its not even the case. Its not that many players.

Edit: and I forgot Haaland who is a non problem as he stated having no problem at all!
It was from Youtube in a post. I thought it was one of the football broadcasters, but I checked TNT and Sky and it's not in their posts so I don't know now. Guess we should disregard it. Youtube feeds me things from them now and again and it looked like the same style as what they post. Taking a closer look it's more basic and no logo.
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Lorric wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 15:05
rpo.castro wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 14:06
Lorric wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 13:12 City got devastated in the international break. All these guys got injured, and right before the Arsenal game:

Image

Big players.
Where did you get this?
First time I am reading there is a problem with Ruben Dias or Bernardo Silva. I ve searched for it and found 0 about it.
Kyle Walker should play against Arsenal.

Stones and Matheus Nunes (not a key player) are the one facing longer injuries. Akanji should return soon but probably not against Arsenal.

Some Man. City supporters trying to get some excuses if Arsenal wins the match? If there is a team that could field two really strong teams its City, but its not even the case. Its not that many players.

Edit: and I forgot Haaland who is a non problem as he stated having no problem at all!
It was from Youtube in a post. I thought it was one of the football broadcasters, but I checked TNT and Sky and it's not in their posts so I don't know now. Guess we should disregard it. Youtube feeds me things from them now and again and it looked like the same style as what they post. Taking a closer look it's more basic and no logo.
Found it:

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxidd9Zv ... xZp07CHZff

ESPN UK.
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Haaland picked up a knock but confirmed he was OK straight after the. There has been nothing to suggest Dias or Bernardo have been injured. Their international teammate Nunes got injured. Akanji missed the second Switzerland game, but is back in training. Ederson, Grealish and De Bruyne were already injured going into the internationals. It remains to be seen if they are ready. The two who are definitely out are Walker and Stones, possibly for a few games. Both will be sorely missed, and I am praying Walker is back in time for Real Madrid. His injury in the first leg of the 2021-22 semi turned the tie, after Fernandinho had to fill in at right back and predictably got roasted by Vinicius. Walker is one of the few players who can match his pace.

Not ideal going into 4 games in 9 days. Rushing someone back could be very costly
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In the Championship Leicester are bottling a great lead.

You can take Brendan Rodgers out of Leicester, but you can't take Leicester out of Brendan Rodgers.
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City 0-0 Arsenal in match with barely no chances (or no real chances at all). Liverpool leader again.
Only Walker and Elderson out.
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rpo.castro wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 19:26 City 0-0 Arsenal in match with barely no chances (or no real chances at all). Liverpool leader again.
Only Walker and Elderson out.
An extremely disappointing game, a particularly boring bore draw. Both sides afraid to lose I think. Arsenal will perhaps be happier.
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