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Update as of January 1, 2017


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Real Madrid: 94,0 pts (a win vs. Real Madrid is thus worth 282 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern, Barcelona
- between 70 and 80 pts: Atletico
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris SG, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica
- between 50 and 60 pts: Sevilla, Dortmund, Man. City, Arsenal, Zenit, Porto
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%


1. BARCELONA 989 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. PSG)
Liga - 2nd with 34 points in 16 games (3 points behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Athletic)

Key performances:

Athletic - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Man City 4-0
Valencia - Barcelona 2-3
Sevilla - Barcelona 1-2
Celtic - Barcelona 0-2



2. MONACO 942pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Man City)
Ligue 1 - 2nd with 42 points in 19 games (2 points behind Nice)
Coupe de la Ligue - qualified for the quarters (vs. Sochaux)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Villarreal 1-0
Monaco - Paris SG 3-1
Tottenham - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Tottenham 2-1



3. BAYERN 894 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Arsenal)
Bundesliga - Leader with 39 points in 16 games (3 point lead over Leipzig)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs. Wolfsburg)

Key performances:

Schalke - Bayern 0-2
PSV - Bayern 1-2
Bayern - Leverkusen 2-1
Bayern - Atletico 1-0
Bayern - Wolfsburg 5-0



4. DORTMUND 888 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Benfica)
Bundesliga - 6th with 27 points in 16 games (12 points behind Bayern)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the Round of 16 (versus Hertha)

Key performances:

Wolfsbourg - Dortmund 1-5
Sporting - Dortmund 1-2
Dortmund - Sporting 1-0
Dortmund - Bayern 1-0
Dortmund - Mönchengladbach 4-1



5. JUVENTUS 860 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Porto)
Serie A - Leader with 42 points in 17 games (4 point lead over Roma with one game in hand)

Key performances:

Juventus - Fiorentina 2-1
Lazio - Juventus 0-1
Lyon - Juventus 0-1
Juventus - Napoli 2-1
Sevilla - Juventus 1-3



6. ARSENAL 783 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Bayern)
Premier League - 3rd with 40 points in 19 games (9 points behind Chelsea)
League Cup - eliminated in quarters by Southampton

Key performances:

Arsenal - Chelsea 3-0
Arsenal - Basel 2-0
Arsenal - Ludogorets 6-0
Ludogorets - Arsenal 2-3
Basel - Arsenal 1-4



7. MANCHESTER CITY 769 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Monaco)
Premier League - 5th with 39 points in 19 games (10 points behind Chelsea)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Man. United

Key performances:

Steaua - Man City 0-5
Man United - Man City 1-2
Man City - Mönchengladbach 4-0
Man City - Barcelona 3-1
Man City - Arsenal 2-1



8. REAL MADRID 767 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Napoli)
Liga - Leader with 37 points in 15 games (3 point lead over Barcelona with one game in hand)
Copa del Rey - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs. Sevilla)

Key performances:

Real Madrid - Sporting 2-1
Real Madrid - Legia 5-1
Real Madrid - Athletic 2-1
Atletico - Real Madrid 0-3
Sporting - Real Madrid 1-2



9. NAPOLI 766 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Real Madrid)
Serie A - 3rd with 35 points in 18 games (7 points behind Juventus)

Key performances:

Napoli - Milan 4-2
D. Kiev - Napoli 1-2
Napoli - Benfica 4-2
Napoli - Inter 3-0
Benfica - Napoli 1-2



10. ROSTOV 751 pts

Europa League - qualified for the Round of 32 (vs. Sparta Prague)
Premier League - 7th with 25 points in 17 games (15 points behind Spartak)
Cup of Russia - eliminated at the Round of 32 by Dinamo Moscow

Key performances:

Anderlecht - Rostov 0-2
Rostov - Ajax 4-1
Rostov - Lokomotiv 1-0
Rostov - CSKA 2-0
Rostov - Bayern 3-2





11. LIVERPOOL 709 pts
12. LEVERKUSEN 706 pts
13. ATLETICO 680 pts
14. SEVILLA 670 pts
15. SHAKHTAR 654 pts
16. LEIPZIG 606 pts
17. LEICESTER 605 pts
18. PSG 602 pts
19. FRANKFURT 560 pts
20. VILLARREAL 528 pts
etc.



Last 10 years winners
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
2013 - Bayern
2012 - Manchester City
2011 - Barcelona
2010 - Inter
2009 - Barcelona
2008 - Manchester United
2007 - Chelsea
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Points in European Cups only

ranking after GS


1689 - ENGLAND
1636 - SPAIN
1512 - GERMANY
1476 - ITALY
1475 - FRANCE
889 - RUSSIA
606 - PORTUGAL
440 - NEDERLAND
407 - UKRAINE
274 - BELGIUM


only performances of the top 10 countries as per UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners

2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
2013 - Germany
2012 - Spain
2011 - Spain
2010 - England
2009 - England
2008 - England
2007 - England
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Update as of February 2, 2017


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Real Madrid: 94,0 pts (a win vs. Real Madrid is thus worth 282 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern, Barcelona
- between 70 and 80 pts: Atletico
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris SG, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica
- between 50 and 60 pts: Sevilla, Dortmund, Man. City, Arsenal, Zenit, Porto
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%


1. BARCELONA 1202 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. PSG)
Liga - 2nd with 42 points in 20 games (4 points behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - are playing the semi-final (1st leg: 2-1 vs. Atletico)

Key performances:

Athletic - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Man City 4-0
Valencia - Barcelona 2-3
Sevilla - Barcelona 1-2
Atletico - Barcelona 1-2 (Copa del Rey)



2. MONACO 1060 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Man City)
Ligue 1 - Leader with 49 points in 22 games (same total as Nice)
Coupe de France - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs. Marseille)
Coupe de la Ligue - qualified for the final (vs. Paris)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Villarreal 1-0
Monaco - Paris SG 3-1
Tottenham - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Tottenham 2-1



3. SEVILLA 1011 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Leicester)
Liga - 3rd with 42 points in 20 games (4 points behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Real Madrid

Key performances:

Sevilla - Lyon 1-0
D.Zagreb - Sevilla 0-1
Sevilla - Atletico 1-0
Sevilla - Valencia 2-1
Sevilla - Real Madrid 2-1



4. JUVENTUS 977 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Porto)
Serie A - Leader with 51 points in 21 games (4 point lead over Roma with one game in hand)
Coppa Italia - qualified for teh semi-finals (vs. Napoli)

Key performances:

Juventus - Fiorentina 2-1
Lazio - Juventus 0-1
Juventus - Napoli 2-1
Sevilla - Juventus 1-3
Juventus - Lazio 2-0



5. REAL MADRID 924 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Napoli)
Liga - Leader with 46 points in 19 games (4 point lead over Barcelona with one game in hand)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in quarters by Celta

Key performances:

Real Madrid - Sporting 2-1
Real Madrid - Athletic 2-1
Atletico - Real Madrid 0-3
Sporting - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Sevilla 3-0 (Copa del Rey)



6. BAYERN 903 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Arsenal)
Bundesliga - Leader with 45 points in 18 games (3 point lead over Leipzig)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs. Wolfsburg)

Key performances:

Schalke - Bayern 0-2
PSV - Bayern 1-2
Bayern - Leverkusen 2-1
Bayern - Atletico 1-0
Bayern - Wolfsburg 5-0



7. DORTMUND 889 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Benfica)
Bundesliga - 4th with 31 points in 18 games (14 points behind Bayern)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the Round of 16 (versus Hertha)

Key performances:

Wolfsbourg - Dortmund 1-5
Sporting - Dortmund 1-2
Dortmund - Sporting 1-0
Dortmund - Bayern 1-0
Dortmund - Mönchengladbach 4-1



8. NAPOLI 880 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Real Madrid)
Serie A - 3rd with 45 points in 22 games (6 points behind Juventus)
Coppa Italia - qualified for the semi-finals (vs. Juventus)

Key performances:

D. Kiev - Napoli 1-2
Napoli - Benfica 4-2
Benfica - Napoli 1-2
Milan - Napoli 1-2
Milan - Fiorentina 1-0 (Coppa Italia)



9. LIVERPOOL 812 pts

Not qualified for Europe this season
Premier League - 4th with 46 points in 23 games (10 points behind Chelsea)
FA Cup - eliminated in the round of 32 by Wolverhampton
League Cup - eliminated in semi-final by Southampton

Key performances:

Arsenal - Liverpool 3-4
Chelsea - Liverpool 1-2
Liverpool - Tottenham 2-1 (league cup)
Everton - Liverpool 0-1
Liverpool - Manchester City 1-0



10. MANCHESTER CITY 810 pts

Champions League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Monaco)
Premier League - 5th with 46 points in 23 games (10 points behind Chelsea)
FA Cup - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs. Huddersfield)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Man. United

Key performances:

Steaua - Man City 0-5
Man United - Man City 1-2
Man City - Mönchengladbach 4-0
Man City - Barcelona 3-1
Man City - Arsenal 2-1





11. ARSENAL 798 pts
12. CELTA 765 pts
13. ROSTOV 751 pts
14. ATLETICO 733 pts
15. TOTTENHAM 718 pts
16. LEVERKUSEN 706 pts
17. ATHLETIC 703 pts
18. FRANKFURT 695 pts
19. SHAKHTAR 654 pts
20. PSG 641 pts
etc.




Last 10 years winners
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
2013 - Bayern
2012 - Manchester City
2011 - Barcelona
2010 - Inter
2009 - Barcelona
2008 - Manchester United
2007 - Chelsea
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Interesting to see Celta up to #12. They didn't make it beyond 0-0 at home in the semis of the Copa against Alavés in a pouring rain, but I think they still have to be (slight) favorites to qualify for the Final.

All very interesting as always, and :applause: :applause: :applause: great job, Monsieur Lyonnais :!:
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Update as of March 2, 2017


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Real Madrid: 94,0 pts (a win vs. Real Madrid is thus worth 282 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern, Barcelona
- between 70 and 80 pts: Atletico
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris SG, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica
- between 50 and 60 pts: Sevilla, Dortmund, Man. City, Arsenal, Zenit, Porto
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%


1. BARCELONA 1559 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 0-4 vs. PSG)
Liga - Leader with 57 points in 25 games (1 point lead over Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - qualified for the final (vs. Alavés)

Key performances:

Barcelona - Man City 4-0
Valencia - Barcelona 2-3
Sevilla - Barcelona 1-2
Atletico - Barcelona 1-2 (Copa del Rey)
Atletico - Barcelona 1-2



2. JUVENTUS 1255 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 2-0 vs. Porto)
Serie A - Leader with 66 points in 26 games (7 point lead over Roma)
Coppa Italia - are playing the semi-finals (1st leg: 3-1 vs. Napoli)

Key performances:

Juventus - Fiorentina 2-1
Juventus - Napoli 2-1
Sevilla - Juventus 1-3
Porto - Juventus 0-2
Juventus - Napoli 3-1 (Coppa Italia)



3. BAYERN 1230 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 5-1 vs. Arsenal)
Bundesliga - Leader with 53 points in 22 games (5 point lead over Leipzig)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the semi-finals (vs. Dortmund or Lotte)

Key performances:

Schalke - Bayern 0-2
Bayern - Leverkusen 2-1
Bayern - Atletico 1-0
Bayern - Wolfsburg 5-0
Bayern - Wolfsburg 1-0 (DFB Pokal)
Bayern - Arsenal 5-1
Bayern - Schalke 3-0 (DFB Pokal)



4. REAL MADRID 1163 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 3-1 vs. Napoli)
Liga - 2nd with 56 points in 24 games (1 point behind Barcelona with one game in hand)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in quarters by Celta

Key performances:

Real Madrid - Athletic 2-1
Atletico - Real Madrid 0-3
Real Madrid - Sevilla 3-0 (Copa del Rey)
Real Madrid - Napoli 3-1
Villarreal - Real Madrid 2-3



5. SEVILLA 1160 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 2-1 vs. Leicester)
Liga - 3rd with 55 points in 25 games (2 points behind Barcelona)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Real Madrid

Key performances:

Sevilla - Lyon 1-0
Sevilla - Atletico 1-0
Sevilla - Valencia 2-1
Sevilla - Real Madrid 2-1
Sevilla - Athletic 1-0



6. MONACO 1116 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 3-5 vs. Man City)
Ligue 1 - Leader with 62 points in 27 games (3 point lead over Paris)
Coupe de France - qualified for quarters (vs. Lille)
Coupe de la Ligue - qualified for the final (vs. Paris)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Villarreal 1-0
Monaco - Paris SG 3-1
Tottenham - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Tottenham 2-1



7. DORTMUND 1009 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 0-1 vs. Benfica)
Bundesliga - 3rd with 40 points in 22 games (13 points behind Bayern)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the quarters (vs. Lotte)

Key performances:

Wolfsbourg - Dortmund 1-5
Sporting - Dortmund 1-2
Dortmund - Sporting 1-0
Dortmund - Bayern 1-0
Dortmund - Wolfsburg 3-0



8. PARIS 993 pts

Champions League - are playing the round of 16 (1st leg: 4-0 vs. Barcelona)
Ligue 1 - 2nd with 59 points in 27 games (3 points behind Monaco)
Coupe de France - qualified for quarters (vs. Avranches)
Coupe de la Ligue - qualified for the final (vs. Monaco)

Key performances:

Paris - Basel 3-0
Basel - Paris 1-2
Lyon - Paris 1-2
Paris - Barcelona 4-0
Marseille - Paris 1-5



9. CELTA 926 pts

Europa League - qualified for the round of 16 (vs. Krasnodar)
Liga - 10th with 35 points in 25 games (24 points behind Barcelona)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in semi-final by Alavés

Key performances:

Celta - Barcelona 4-3
Celta - Valencia 2-1
Valencia - Celta 1-4 (Copa del Rey)
Celta - Valencia 2- (Copa del Rey)
Real Madrid - Celta 1-2 (Copa del Rey)
Shakhtar - Celta 0-2



10. LIVERPOOL 920 pts

Not qualified for Europe this season
Premier League - 5th with 49 points in 26 games (14 points behind Chelsea)
FA Cup - eliminated in the round of 32 by Wolverhampton
League Cup - eliminated in semi-final by Southampton

Key performances:

Arsenal - Liverpool 3-4
Chelsea - Liverpool 1-2
Liverpool - Tottenham 2-1 (league cup)
Liverpool - Manchester City 1-0
Liverpool - Tottenham 2-0





11. ATLETICO 909 pts
12. MANCHESTER CITY 888 pts
13. NAPOLI 880 pts
14. ROSTOV 857 pts
15. ROMA 827 pts
16. ARSENAL 802 pts
17. VILLARREAL 765 pts
18. BENFICA 756 pts
19. LEVERKUSEN 748 pts
20. ATHLETIC 741 pts
etc.



Last 10 years winners
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
2013 - Bayern
2012 - Manchester City
2011 - Barcelona
2010 - Inter
2009 - Barcelona
2008 - Manchester United
2007 - Chelsea
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Points in European Cups only



2181 - SPAIN
1854 - ENGLAND
1841 - GERMANY
1823 - FRANCE
1784 - ITALY
1160 - RUSSIA
780 - PORTUGAL
590 - BELGIUM
497 - NEDERLAND
407 - UKRAINE



only performances of the top 10 countries as per UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners

2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
2013 - Germany
2012 - Spain
2011 - Spain
2010 - England
2009 - England
2008 - England
2007 - England
Don't forget to post your predictions for the new season
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http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2017.html

according to Bert's ranking, 14 out of 16 top-16 ranked teams reached round of 16 in 2017

exceptions are: Leicester and Monaco instead of Chelsea and Schalke

mmmmmmmm...year after year, the most important club's tournament in the world is more and more predictable
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Which sport is less predictable ?

Table tennis gold medal at the olympiques ?
A grand slam final in tennis ?
A biathlon finish ?
100m sprints ?
Handball world chamipon ?
Ice hockey ?
Maybe WSOP :D

Whatever you take, in 95% a favourite will win any serious sports event. Otherwise, he wouldn't be favourite.

So I'm glad we have 9 different CL-champions in this century and several team in the quarters who could make it 10.
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Arges Pitesti wrote:http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2017.html

according to Bert's ranking, 14 out of 16 top-16 ranked teams reached round of 16 in 2017

exceptions are: Leicester and Monaco instead of Chelsea and Schalke

mmmmmmmm...year after year, the most important club's tournament in the world is more and more predictable
Well, OK, I won't argue with you here, but when I was a lad :wink: , I saw Ajax win the European Cup three years running, and then Bayern do the same thing over the very next three-year period. The pendulum swings, the wheel of fortune turns . . . And we have yet to have a CL winner repeat :!: :shock:
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SirHenri wrote:Which sport is less predictable ?

Table tennis gold medal at the olympiques ?
A grand slam final in tennis ?
A biathlon finish ?
100m sprints ?
Handball world chamipon ?
Ice hockey ?
Maybe WSOP :D

Whatever you take, in 95% a favourite will win any serious sports event. Otherwise, he wouldn't be favourite.

So I'm glad we have 9 different CL-champions in this century and several team in the quarters who could make it 10.

US pro sports based on salary cap and draft, like NFL, are a good example of unpredictable challenge: from 2002 to 2011 (10 years), 10 different teams reached the final from one of the two conferences.

9 different CL winners in almost 20 years is just a marginal issue: I'm more oriented to analyse the recent trend (this decade, so from 2011): in last 6 CL editions, this was the spot distribution of the semi-finalists:

- REAL 6 times
- BARCA 4
- ATLETICO 2

- BAYERN 5
- BORUSSIA 1
- SCHALKE 1

- CHELSEA 2
- UNITED 1
- CITY 1

- JUVENTUS


Just 10 teams overall.

23 out of 24 came from the 3 top countries.

Real, Barca and Bayern almost every year.

And so on...

P.S. what is WSOP?!?! :?
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AlanK wrote:
Arges Pitesti wrote:http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2017.html

according to Bert's ranking, 14 out of 16 top-16 ranked teams reached round of 16 in 2017

exceptions are: Leicester and Monaco instead of Chelsea and Schalke

mmmmmmmm...year after year, the most important club's tournament in the world is more and more predictable
Well, OK, I won't argue with you here, but when I was a lad :wink: , I saw Ajax win the European Cup three years running, and then Bayern do the same thing over the very next three-year period. The pendulum swings, the wheel of fortune turns . . . And we have yet to have a CL winner repeat :!: :shock:

The fact that no team has won CL twice in a row is simply due to the fact that there are 4 or 5 contenters (almost the same ones :roll:) every year, so it's difficult to predict who will win it from semi-finals. But it's so easy to predict which teams will reach that semi-finals. :)

Once we had Bayern dinasty, Ajax dinasty and so on...but we saw S.Etienne, Malmoe, Bruges, Amburgo, Leeds, Steaua, Panathinaikos, Forest, Rome, PSV in final (or even winners) as well! Who could ever predict a double Nott. Forest triumph?! Or a sweedish team in final? Or Amburgo's upset over Juventus?
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That was a consequence of a 1 team per country limitation.

Without Atlético Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Arsenal, Manchester City, Sevilla, FC Porto, Napoli, Bayer Leverkusen, Tottenham, Lyon, Sporting, Borussia Monchengladbach, Monaco and Rostov (I think I haven’t missed anyone, but please correct me if I’m wrong), you open room for the likes of Club Brugge, PSV, Dynamo Kiev, etc. to shine, reach quarter finals and perhaps even further twice or thrice per decade, and have the (wrong) perception that they’re actually among, or close to, Europe’s finest teams.

On the other hand, these teams would be in the EL instead, and there it would be much harder for the likes of Anderlecht, Ajax, Steaua, etc. to reach EL quarter finals and perhaps even further.

I prefer the CL era, although I confess that in the CL era, I preferred the 2000-2008 period, instead of the current 2009-2017 “Visca el Barça!” period. :sigh:

(In one example, the time when Cristiano Ronaldo couldn’t score a single goal in over 3 years compared to nowadays where he and Frodo and the rest of the fake heroes seem to score one per game)
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Arges Pitesti wrote:
P.S. what is WSOP?!?! :?
Winning it twice and you are really good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_W ... Main_Event

You're basically right, the trend gets concerning. Not even the teams with the biggest money like Paris and City can compete with the big 4 over the last 5 years. So good luck Leicester, Monaco, Dortmund, Juventus. On a good day they are able to beat everybody.
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"Frodo"? Such bitterness, Dragonite. Go catch your Pokeball. :lol:
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Update as of April 7, 2017


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Real Madrid: 94,0 pts (a win vs. Real Madrid is thus worth 282 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern, Barcelona
- between 70 and 80 pts: Atletico
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris SG, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica
- between 50 and 60 pts: Sevilla, Dortmund, Man. City, Arsenal, Zenit, Porto
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%


1. BARCELONA 2054 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Juventus)
Liga - 2nd with 69 points in 30 games (2 points behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - qualified for the final (vs. Alavés)

Key performances:

Barcelona - Man City 4-0
Valencia - Barcelona 2-3
Sevilla - Barcelona 1-2
Atletico - Barcelona 1-2 (Copa del Rey)
Atletico - Barcelona 1-2
Barcelona - Paris 6-1
Barcelona - Valencia 4-2
Barcelona - Sevilla 3-0



2. JUVENTUS 1522 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Barcelona)
Serie A - Leader with 73 points in 29 games (8 point lead over Roma)
Coppa Italia - qualified for the final (vs. Lazio)

Key performances:

Juventus - Napoli 2-1
Sevilla - Juventus 1-3
Porto - Juventus 0-2
Juventus - Napoli 3-1 (Coppa Italia)
Juventus - Porto 1-0



3. BAYERN 1487 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Real Madrid)
Bundesliga - Leader with 65 points in 27 games (10 point lead over Leipzig)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the semi-finals (vs. Dortmund)

Key performances:

Schalke - Bayern 0-2
Bayern - Leverkusen 2-1
Bayern - Atletico 1-0
Bayern - Wolfsburg 5-0
Bayern - Wolfsburg 1-0 (DFB Pokal)
Bayern - Arsenal 5-1
Bayern - Schalke 3-0 (DFB Pokal)
Arsenal - Bayern 1-5



4. REAL MADRID 1418 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Bayern)
Liga - Leader with 71 points in 29 games (2 point lead over Barcelona with one game in hand)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in quarters by Celta

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 0-3
Real Madrid - Sevilla 3-0 (Copa del Rey)
Real Madrid - Napoli 3-1
Villarreal - Real Madrid 2-3
Napoli - Real Madrid 1-3



5. DORTMUND 1369 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Monaco)
Bundesliga - 4th with 50 points in 27 games (15 points behind Bayern)
DFB-Pokal - qualified for the semi-finals (vs. Bayern)

Key performances:

Wolfsbourg - Dortmund 1-5
Dortmund - Bayern 1-0
Dortmund - Wolfsburg 3-0
Dortmund - Leverkusen 6-2
Dortmund - Benfica 4-0



6. MONACO 1324 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Dortmund)
Ligue 1 - Leader with 71 points in 30 games (3 point lead over Paris)
Coupe de France - qualified for the semi-finals (vs. Paris)
Coupe de la Ligue - runner-up (defeated by Paris)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Villarreal 1-0
Monaco - Paris 3-1
Tottenham - Monaco 1-2
Monaco - Tottenham 2-1
Monaco - Man City 3-1



7. ATLETICO 1287 pts

Champions League - qualified for the quarters (vs. Leicester)
Liga - 3rd with 61 points in 30 games (10 points behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in semi-final by Barcelona

Key performances:

Atletico - Bayern 1-0
Valencia - Atletico 0-2
Leverkusen - Atletico 2-4
Atletico - Valencia 3-0
Atletico - Sevilla 3-1



8. LIVERPOOL 1168 pts

Not qualified for Europe this season
Premier League - 3rd with 60 points in 31 games (12 points behind Chelsea)
FA Cup - eliminated in the round of 32 by Wolverhampton
League Cup - eliminated in semi-final by Southampton

Key performances:

Arsenal - Liverpool 3-4
Chelsea - Liverpool 1-2
Liverpool - Tottenham 2-1 (league cup)
Liverpool - Manchester City 1-0
Liverpool - Tottenham 2-0
Liverpool - Arsenal 3-1



9. SEVILLA 1160 pts

Champions League - eliminated in the round of 16 by Leicester
Liga - 4th with 58 points in 30 games (13 points behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Real Madrid

Key performances:

Sevilla - Lyon 1-0
Sevilla - Atletico 1-0
Sevilla - Valencia 2-1
Sevilla - Real Madrid 2-1
Sevilla - Athletic 1-0



10. NAPOLI 1112 pts

Champions League - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Real Madrid
Serie A - 3rd with 64 points in 30 games (10 points behind Juventus)
Coppa Italia - eliminated in semi-finals by Juventus

Key performances:

D.Kiev - Napoli 1-2
Napoli - Benfica 4-2
Benfica - Napoli 1-2
Napoli - Fiorentina 1-0 (Coppa Italia)
Napoli - Juventus 3-2 (Coppa Italia)



11. PARIS 1102 pts
12. CELTA 1004 pts
13. MANCHESTER CITY 976 pts
14. HOFFENHEIM 955 pts
15. ROMA 946 pts
16. LEICESTER 911 pts
17. ROSTOV 906 pts
18. CHELSEA 876 pts
19. LEVERKUSEN 861 pts
20. ARSENAL 860 pts
etc.



Last 10 years winners
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
2013 - Bayern
2012 - Manchester City
2011 - Barcelona
2010 - Inter
2009 - Barcelona
2008 - Manchester United
2007 - Chelsea
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