CL predictions - 1/8 - secong leg
Barcelona - Chelsea 2-1
Villareal - Rangers 2-1
Juventus - Werder 2-0
Inter - Ajax 2-1
Milan - Bayern 2-1
Liverpool - Benfica 2-0
Arsenal - Real Madrid 1-2
Lyon - PSV 2-0
Villareal - Rangers 2-1
Juventus - Werder 2-0
Inter - Ajax 2-1
Milan - Bayern 2-1
Liverpool - Benfica 2-0
Arsenal - Real Madrid 1-2
Lyon - PSV 2-0
Last edited by oribd on Tue Mar 07, 2006 19:40, edited 1 time in total.
Barcelona - Chelsea 2-1
Villareal - Rangers 3-1
Juventus - Werder 1-0
Inter - Ajax 2-0
Milan - Bayern 1-0
Liverpool - Benfica 3-0
Arsenal - Real Madrid 0-0
Lyon - PSV 3-1
Villareal - Rangers 3-1
Juventus - Werder 1-0
Inter - Ajax 2-0
Milan - Bayern 1-0
Liverpool - Benfica 3-0
Arsenal - Real Madrid 0-0
Lyon - PSV 3-1
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Arsenal – Real Madrid, 1-0
Milan – Bayern, 1-0
Lyon – PSV, 1-1
Villareal – Rangers, 2-0
Barcelona – Chelsea, 1-1
Liverpool – Benfica, 2-0
Juventus – Bremen, 2-1
This should be next week
Inter – Ajax, 2-0
Milan – Bayern, 1-0
Lyon – PSV, 1-1
Villareal – Rangers, 2-0
Barcelona – Chelsea, 1-1
Liverpool – Benfica, 2-0
Juventus – Bremen, 2-1
This should be next week
Inter – Ajax, 2-0
Temporary results as the 8th game will be played next week.
1/8 (last 16) - second leg
Giuseppe and myself are leading with 10 points with a 1 point advance over 9 other participants. Useless to say that the Inter-Ajax game will be necessary to see who's the final winner.
10 pts - Giuseppe, Lyonnais
9 pts - anita, bjkman1903, Dinamo_fan_4_ver, forsbey, Frk_slb, Radu Stelistu, Ricardo, River, Rox, S448250, seso
8 pts - Aramand, Bruno, EarlofBug
7 pts - Esbanjador, Juventus, yirdum
6 pts - Aliceag, Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Martijn_Lok, nightfire, oribd, Ralfinho, sb
5 pts - TITAN, Tower, wehoe
4 pts - cody86, Francisco, Peter_nyc, Richie
Qualification
Rox, our Czech champion, who already won the MatchDay 5 contest, is already sure to win the '1/8 qualification contest' as the huge majority of us predicted Inter for the qualification. Congratulations Rox
Should Ajax succeed in making an upset, S448250 would have 26 pts too.
26 pts - Rox
24 pts - Peter_nyc, sb
22 pts - Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Dinamo_fan_4_ever, Giuseppe, Lyonnais, Martijn_Lok, Lyonnais, S448250, seso
20 pts - anita, bjkman1903, EarlofBug, forsbey, Frk_Slb, Juventus, oribd, River
18 pts - Bruno, Esbanjador, Ralfinho, Tower
16 pts - Aliceag, Richie, yirdum
14 pts - cody86
12 pts - Aramand, Francisco, nightfire, Radu Stelistu, wehoe
10 pts - krdeluxe, TITAN
6 pts - saoirse
4 pts - Kaeser
Overall standings
Martijn_Lok still is our solid leader, but Rox is coming back thanks to his excellent performance this week.
1. Martijn_Lok 162 pts
2. bjkman 1903 159 pts
3. Rox 158 pts
4. Ralfinho 152 pts
5. Bruno 148 pts
6. EarlofBug & Richie 147 pts
8. Lyonnais & oribd 146 pts
10. S448250 143 pts
11. Frk_Slb, Ricardo & seso 142 pts
14. yirdum 140 pts
15. nightfire 139 pts
16. cody86 137 pts
17. anita 132 pts
18. Aliceag 127 pts
19. forsbey 126 pts
20. krdeluxe 125 pts
21. saoirse 122 pts
22. Andresco 117 pts
23. m4e & nelster 115 pts
25. Peter_nyc 113 pts
26. ignjat63 104 pts
27. Sabonis 101 pts
28. porto_1978 91 pts
29. Malko 89 pts
30. Musicologo 82 pts
31. Radu Stelistu & wehoe 80 pts
33. Tower 79 pts
34. Danielos 72 pts
35. Giuseppe 70 pts
36. MEXX 67 pts
37. Spartaan 64 pts
38. Sanibel 61 pts
39. Miki 60 pts
40. max & walter_wade 58 pts
42. sayko & sb 53 pts
44. Godfather_pt & ianmorrison 50 pts
46. Esbajador & seol 49 pts
48. Cosmin_ultraSteaua & Francisco 44 pts
50. zatzayacu 43 pts
etc.
Please double check your totals as I had to it very quickly.
See you next week for final results.
1/8 (last 16) - second leg
Giuseppe and myself are leading with 10 points with a 1 point advance over 9 other participants. Useless to say that the Inter-Ajax game will be necessary to see who's the final winner.
10 pts - Giuseppe, Lyonnais
9 pts - anita, bjkman1903, Dinamo_fan_4_ver, forsbey, Frk_slb, Radu Stelistu, Ricardo, River, Rox, S448250, seso
8 pts - Aramand, Bruno, EarlofBug
7 pts - Esbanjador, Juventus, yirdum
6 pts - Aliceag, Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Martijn_Lok, nightfire, oribd, Ralfinho, sb
5 pts - TITAN, Tower, wehoe
4 pts - cody86, Francisco, Peter_nyc, Richie
Qualification
Rox, our Czech champion, who already won the MatchDay 5 contest, is already sure to win the '1/8 qualification contest' as the huge majority of us predicted Inter for the qualification. Congratulations Rox
Should Ajax succeed in making an upset, S448250 would have 26 pts too.
26 pts - Rox
24 pts - Peter_nyc, sb
22 pts - Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Dinamo_fan_4_ever, Giuseppe, Lyonnais, Martijn_Lok, Lyonnais, S448250, seso
20 pts - anita, bjkman1903, EarlofBug, forsbey, Frk_Slb, Juventus, oribd, River
18 pts - Bruno, Esbanjador, Ralfinho, Tower
16 pts - Aliceag, Richie, yirdum
14 pts - cody86
12 pts - Aramand, Francisco, nightfire, Radu Stelistu, wehoe
10 pts - krdeluxe, TITAN
6 pts - saoirse
4 pts - Kaeser
Overall standings
Martijn_Lok still is our solid leader, but Rox is coming back thanks to his excellent performance this week.
1. Martijn_Lok 162 pts
2. bjkman 1903 159 pts
3. Rox 158 pts
4. Ralfinho 152 pts
5. Bruno 148 pts
6. EarlofBug & Richie 147 pts
8. Lyonnais & oribd 146 pts
10. S448250 143 pts
11. Frk_Slb, Ricardo & seso 142 pts
14. yirdum 140 pts
15. nightfire 139 pts
16. cody86 137 pts
17. anita 132 pts
18. Aliceag 127 pts
19. forsbey 126 pts
20. krdeluxe 125 pts
21. saoirse 122 pts
22. Andresco 117 pts
23. m4e & nelster 115 pts
25. Peter_nyc 113 pts
26. ignjat63 104 pts
27. Sabonis 101 pts
28. porto_1978 91 pts
29. Malko 89 pts
30. Musicologo 82 pts
31. Radu Stelistu & wehoe 80 pts
33. Tower 79 pts
34. Danielos 72 pts
35. Giuseppe 70 pts
36. MEXX 67 pts
37. Spartaan 64 pts
38. Sanibel 61 pts
39. Miki 60 pts
40. max & walter_wade 58 pts
42. sayko & sb 53 pts
44. Godfather_pt & ianmorrison 50 pts
46. Esbajador & seol 49 pts
48. Cosmin_ultraSteaua & Francisco 44 pts
50. zatzayacu 43 pts
etc.
Please double check your totals as I had to it very quickly.
See you next week for final results.
Don't forget to post your predictions for the new season
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- During this week projections were made using different statistic methods, which resulted in different results between each projections. Some that were posted became outdated just after about 2 hours, since a different method was adopted.
The results obtained are not enough to draw conclusions, but after the experiment several reasons can be pointed from the point of view of the designer.
Assumptions had to be made, since there were many ways to compare each team. When one is trying to compare a team by results, what is doing is assuming the team has an whole and taking the final results of each game has the only valid form of work produced by it. In reality each athleat of a team, and managers, have a different range of performance, hence influence in a team, and must be able to play in group, so a team is like a composite signal who varies through time suffering interference from every other variable one can think of. The final result is a way of accounting for the goals, one in a wide range of events happening, being known that not every goal require the same amount of effort to be produced, the result becomes the future objective within the game, that motivates game intervieners and public. So the happening of a goal is the barrier between the future illusion of an event or the present notion of an event happening, hence, within the laws of the game, the time of a game is the main force that brings the possibility for the event to happen and also the possibility of creating in the mind of the spectator a simple and common-sense accepted measure of the most relevant events that could account for the game itself.
Since a two leg round is no much different than a league with two teams, each result of a game accounts for half of the league time to play, reducing the chance of happening enough events that could express each team full potencial, being the number of goals the possibility of a team rule over the other without a regular effort in time. By this, any projection of the result of a likely game, even taking part of the past history of results, is not enough to determine a closer approximation to the real set of events that constitute one single game.
Although a result in a very short timespan competition cannot be better predicted, for a long timespan competition, it is noted that a team, as a whole, may see its own performance by any pratical measure converge in mean to a hipothetical value equivalent of obtaining that single abstract value in all moments of measurement. That is the principle that keeps the players, fans and others in the late timespan of a league believing that a season objective is or isn't possible.
Saying that it is making an acknowledge that the most probable thing one can find in trying to predicte the outcome of one single game, is the boredom or enlightenment, of becoming aware that there are so many events that a criteria has to be made, being by that the prediction biased by the referrals of the predictor, human, machine or abstract.
The notion of team historic carries so much time that the mean performance of even generations can be seen reflected in the final outcomes, whether that team's name becomes a common word or a forgotten one.
Thats one way... or you could use your instincts...Aramand wrote:
- During this week projections were made using different statistic methods, which resulted in different results between each projections. Some that were posted became outdated just after about 2 hours, since a different method was adopted.
The results obtained are not enough to draw conclusions, but after the experiment several reasons can be pointed from the point of view of the designer.
Assumptions had to be made, since there were many ways to compare each team. When one is trying to compare a team by results, what is doing is assuming the team has an whole and taking the final results of each game has the only valid form of work produced by it. In reality each athleat of a team, and managers, have a different range of performance, hence influence in a team, and must be able to play in group, so a team is like a composite signal who varies through time suffering interference from every other variable one can think of. The final result is a way of accounting for the goals, one in a wide range of events happening, being known that not every goal require the same amount of effort to be produced, the result becomes the future objective within the game, that motivates game intervieners and public. So the happening of a goal is the barrier between the future illusion of an event or the present notion of an event happening, hence, within the laws of the game, the time of a game is the main force that brings the possibility for the event to happen and also the possibility of creating in the mind of the spectator a simple and common-sense accepted measure of the most relevant events that could account for the game itself.
Since a two leg round is no much different than a league with two teams, each result of a game accounts for half of the league time to play, reducing the chance of happening enough events that could express each team full potencial, being the number of goals the possibility of a team rule over the other without a regular effort in time. By this, any projection of the result of a likely game, even taking part of the past history of results, is not enough to determine a closer approximation to the real set of events that constitute one single game.
Although a result in a very short timespan competition cannot be better predicted, for a long timespan competition, it is noted that a team, as a whole, may see its own performance by any pratical measure converge in mean to a hipothetical value equivalent of obtaining that single abstract value in all moments of measurement. That is the principle that keeps the players, fans and others in the late timespan of a league believing that a season objective is or isn't possible.
Saying that it is making an acknowledge that the most probable thing one can find in trying to predicte the outcome of one single game, is the boredom or enlightenment, of becoming aware that there are so many events that a criteria has to be made, being by that the prediction biased by the referrals of the predictor, human, machine or abstract.
The notion of team historic carries so much time that the mean performance of even generations can be seen reflected in the final outcomes, whether that team's name becomes a common word or a forgotten one.
Unfortunately we were ko'd just as i expected. We do not have a finisher up front (ie.Owen) and we got punished yet again as we missed a hatful of chances. Also, when i saw the teamsheet that had no Hyypia and Riise available and instead had Traore & Warnock playing i knew we were as good as OUT, and so it proved. Good luck to Benfica for the quarters, just like Real Betis fans the Benfica supporters were fantastic at Anfield.Giuseppe wrote:Thanks to Liverpool for ruining my score
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Unfortunately we were ko'd just as i expected. We do not have a finisher up front (ie.Owen) and we got punished yet again as we missed a hatful of chances. Also, when i saw the teamsheet that had no Hyypia and Riise available and instead had Traore & Warnock playing i knew we were as good as OUT, and so it proved. Good luck to Benfica for the quarters, just like Real Betis fans the Benfica supporters were fantastic at Anfield. [/quote]
Well I must say that Liverpool fans were also fantastic because of the atmosphere but mainly because at the end of the match Liverpool supporters aplauded Benfica. Thank you! Let's see what happens with Barça.
Unfortunately we were ko'd just as i expected. We do not have a finisher up front (ie.Owen) and we got punished yet again as we missed a hatful of chances. Also, when i saw the teamsheet that had no Hyypia and Riise available and instead had Traore & Warnock playing i knew we were as good as OUT, and so it proved. Good luck to Benfica for the quarters, just like Real Betis fans the Benfica supporters were fantastic at Anfield. [/quote]
Well I must say that Liverpool fans were also fantastic because of the atmosphere but mainly because at the end of the match Liverpool supporters aplauded Benfica. Thank you! Let's see what happens with Barça.
Updated result after the Inter - Ajax game.
Last 16 - secong leg
Well, it seems that I was lucky enough this time.
13 pts - Lyonnais
12 pts - Giuseppe, River, seso
11 pts - bjkman1903, Bruno, Dinamo_fan_4_ever, EarlofBug, forbsey, Frk_Slb, Radu Stelistu', Ricardo, Rox
10 pts - Aramand, Juventus
9 pts - anita, Esbanjador, Ralfinho, S448250, yirdum
8 pts - Aliceag, Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Martijn_Lok, nightfire, oribd, sb
7 pts - Peter_nyc, Richie, TITAN, Tower, wehoe
6 pts - cody86, Francisco
Last 16 - Qualification points
Congratulations to Rox. 7 out 8 predictions before 1st leg right, 8 out 8 before 2nd leg right, your standards are very high
30 pts - Rox
28 pts - Peter_nyc, sb
26 pts - Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Dinamo_fan_4_ever, Frk_Slb, Giuseppe, Lyonnais, Martijn_Lok, Ricardo, seso
24 pts - bjkman1903, EarlofBug, forbsey, Juventus, oribd, River, Tower
22 pts - anita, Bruno, Esbanjador, Ralfinho, S448250
20 pts - Aliceag, Richie, yirdum
18 pts - cody86
16 pts - Francisco, wehoe
14 pts - Aramand, nightfire, Radu Stelistu'
12 pts - TITAN
10 pts - krdeluxe
8 pts - saoirse
6 pts - Kaeser
Standings
Martijn is still the leader just ahead of bjkman1903 (3 points behind) and Rox (4 points difference).
1. Martijn_Lok 168 pts
2. bjkman1903 165 pts
3. Rox 164 pts
4. Ralfinho 159 pts
5. Bruno 155 pts
6. EarlofBug & Richie 154 pts
8. Lyonnais 153 pts
9. oribd 152 pts
10. Frk_Slb 150 pts
11. seso 149 pts
12. Ricardo 148 pts
13. yirdum 146 pts
14. cody86, nightfire & S448250 143 pts
17. anita 134 pts
18. Aliceag 133 pts
19. forbsey 132 pts
20. krdeluxe 125 pts
21. saoirse 124 pts
22. Peter_nyc 120 pts
23. Andresco 117 pts
24. m4e & nelster 115 pts
26. ignjat63 104 pts
27. Sabonis 101 pts
28. porto_1978 91 pts
29. Malko 89 pts
30. Tower 87 pts
31. wehoe 86 pts
32. radu Stelistu' 84 pts
33. Musicologo 82 pts
34. Giuseppe 76 pts
35. Danielos 72 pts
36. MEXX 67 pts
37. Spartaan 64 pts
38. Sanibel 61 pts
39. Miki 60 pts
40. sb 59 pts
41. max & walter-wade 58 pts
43. Esbanjador 55 pts
44. sayko 53 pts
45. Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Francisco, Godfather_pt & ianmorrison 50 pts
49. seol 49 pts
50. Dinamo_fan_4_ever 47 pts
(...)
53. Juventus 39 pts
54. River 38 pts
57. TITAN 34 pts
62. Aramand 24 pts
83. Kaeser 6 pts
See you very soon for the Quarters !
Cheers
Last 16 - secong leg
Well, it seems that I was lucky enough this time.
13 pts - Lyonnais
12 pts - Giuseppe, River, seso
11 pts - bjkman1903, Bruno, Dinamo_fan_4_ever, EarlofBug, forbsey, Frk_Slb, Radu Stelistu', Ricardo, Rox
10 pts - Aramand, Juventus
9 pts - anita, Esbanjador, Ralfinho, S448250, yirdum
8 pts - Aliceag, Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Martijn_Lok, nightfire, oribd, sb
7 pts - Peter_nyc, Richie, TITAN, Tower, wehoe
6 pts - cody86, Francisco
Last 16 - Qualification points
Congratulations to Rox. 7 out 8 predictions before 1st leg right, 8 out 8 before 2nd leg right, your standards are very high
30 pts - Rox
28 pts - Peter_nyc, sb
26 pts - Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Dinamo_fan_4_ever, Frk_Slb, Giuseppe, Lyonnais, Martijn_Lok, Ricardo, seso
24 pts - bjkman1903, EarlofBug, forbsey, Juventus, oribd, River, Tower
22 pts - anita, Bruno, Esbanjador, Ralfinho, S448250
20 pts - Aliceag, Richie, yirdum
18 pts - cody86
16 pts - Francisco, wehoe
14 pts - Aramand, nightfire, Radu Stelistu'
12 pts - TITAN
10 pts - krdeluxe
8 pts - saoirse
6 pts - Kaeser
Standings
Martijn is still the leader just ahead of bjkman1903 (3 points behind) and Rox (4 points difference).
1. Martijn_Lok 168 pts
2. bjkman1903 165 pts
3. Rox 164 pts
4. Ralfinho 159 pts
5. Bruno 155 pts
6. EarlofBug & Richie 154 pts
8. Lyonnais 153 pts
9. oribd 152 pts
10. Frk_Slb 150 pts
11. seso 149 pts
12. Ricardo 148 pts
13. yirdum 146 pts
14. cody86, nightfire & S448250 143 pts
17. anita 134 pts
18. Aliceag 133 pts
19. forbsey 132 pts
20. krdeluxe 125 pts
21. saoirse 124 pts
22. Peter_nyc 120 pts
23. Andresco 117 pts
24. m4e & nelster 115 pts
26. ignjat63 104 pts
27. Sabonis 101 pts
28. porto_1978 91 pts
29. Malko 89 pts
30. Tower 87 pts
31. wehoe 86 pts
32. radu Stelistu' 84 pts
33. Musicologo 82 pts
34. Giuseppe 76 pts
35. Danielos 72 pts
36. MEXX 67 pts
37. Spartaan 64 pts
38. Sanibel 61 pts
39. Miki 60 pts
40. sb 59 pts
41. max & walter-wade 58 pts
43. Esbanjador 55 pts
44. sayko 53 pts
45. Cosmin_ultraSteaua, Francisco, Godfather_pt & ianmorrison 50 pts
49. seol 49 pts
50. Dinamo_fan_4_ever 47 pts
(...)
53. Juventus 39 pts
54. River 38 pts
57. TITAN 34 pts
62. Aramand 24 pts
83. Kaeser 6 pts
See you very soon for the Quarters !
Cheers
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