Defending a title

Malko · Post by **Malko** » Fri May 25, 2012 11:52

But anyone beating Hambourg SV is a good thing

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Hwat i wanted to say, is, that it was better, when anybody had a chance to win an european cup. Now, its only spanish, italian and english teams.....with Porto the last exception, but already a long time ago.....

Thunder_PT · Post by **Thunder_PT** » Sat May 26, 2012 20:17

Malko wrote:But anyone beating Hambourg SV is a good thing .
Hwat i wanted to say, is, that it was better, when anybody had a chance to win an european cup. Now, its only spanish, italian and english teams.....with Porto the last exception, but already a long time ago.....

What? Bayern almost won it this season. And other than them, both Dortmund and Porto have more chances of winning it next season than any Italian team at the moment.

ngfsmg · Post by **ngfsmg** » Sat May 26, 2012 23:08

Thunder_PT wrote:
Malko wrote:But anyone beating Hambourg SV is a good thing .
Hwat i wanted to say, is, that it was better, when anybody had a chance to win an european cup. Now, its only spanish, italian and english teams.....with Porto the last exception, but already a long time ago.....
What? Bayern almost won it this season. And other than them, both Dortmund and Porto have more chances of winning it next season than any Italian team at the moment.

I don't give Dortmund many chances after what they did this year... And they are probably going to be pot 4 again.

Malko · Post by **Malko** » Sun May 27, 2012 14:21

Thunder PT, almost, yes, but only almost. german teams are not capable to win any european Cup for 12 years now too.

ngfsmg, if you give Dortmund a chance, you shoukd geive at least the same chance to Montpellier, which did not more and not less than Dortmund

ngfsmg · Post by **ngfsmg** » Sun May 27, 2012 14:28

Malko wrote:Thunder PT, almost, yes, but only almost. german teams are not capable to win any european Cup for 12 years now too.

ngfsmg, if you give Dortmund a chance, you shoukd geive at least the same chance to Montpellier, which did not more and not less than Dortmund

Dortmund is German champion and Montpellier is French champion, and it's the only similarity I can found between them (probably a CL failure will be one mor point in common after December...). Dortmund was champion in 2011, what was Montpellier doing then? And Dortmund didn't lose with Gyori ETO (with all respect for Gyori) at Europa League

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Malko · Post by **Malko** » Sun May 27, 2012 15:06

ngfsmg, Dortmund was twice champion and failed twice in European Cups.
Montpellier is one time champion and failed one time in European cups (in the last years for both).
Thats another similarity. (even if it's a point for Montpellier : failing once can be an accident, twice is not....)
Both were no doubt the two best teams in their (similar) leagues....
But it will be important that Montpellier keeps its best players, so i think they are even a little stronger than the German side.
You wanna have my opinion: none of them goes to quarters.

BTW: on the luxembourgish Cupfinal yesterday, i saw the first Montpellier-shirts for long.........they begin to be internationally known and popular.

ngfsmg · Post by **ngfsmg** » Sun May 27, 2012 15:12

Malko wrote:ngfsmg, Dortmund was twice champion and failed twice in European Cups.
Montpellier is one time champion and failed one time in European cups (in the last years for both).
Thats another similarity. (even if it's a point for Montpellier : failing once can be an accident, twice is not....)
Both were no doubt the two best teams in their (similar) leagues....
But it will be important that Montpellier keeps its best players, so i think they are even a little stronger than the German side.
You wanna have my opinion: none of them goes to quarters.

BTW: on the luxembourgish Cupfinal yesterday, i saw the first Montpellier-shirts for long.........they begin to be internationally known and popular.

Even if what you are saying was totally true, Montpellier won't have half of their team next year, Dortmund will.

1 · Post by 1 » Sun May 27, 2012 15:32

Final Update (2011 & 2011-12)
Champions, and how many times they've won title in row

7th
Dinamo (CRO)

6th
BATE (BLR)

5th
Partizan (SRB)

4th
Ekranas (LTU)

3rd
Basel (SUI)
HJK (FIN)
Linfield (NIR)
Şahtar (UKR)

2nd
Ajax (NED)
Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Diddeleng (LUX)
Flora (EST)
Maribor (SVN)
Neftçi (AZE)
Olimpiakos Pireos (GRE)
Porto (POR)
Shamrock Rovers (IRL)
Skënderbeu (ALB)
Valletta (MLT)
Zenit (RUS)
Zestaponi (GEO)

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Changes from last update:
San Marino: Tre Fiori can't defend their title anymore

Malko · Post by **Malko** » Sun May 27, 2012 16:55

1 i hope it won't be like that. Cause Louis Nicollin, the president, said that the aim now is to keep the players for next year. This means, he will do much financial effort. But not only that. Some players should know that it's too early for them to go to Real,Barca or Chelsea, and too stupid to go anywhere else.., ike Dortmund, Newcastle or Sevilla........but the best to stay one or 2 more years in Montpellier. and than a big club can be interesting.

1 · Post by 1 » Sun May 27, 2012 18:59

2012 & 2012-13 List will be here soon, after May 29th

on that day, final of San Marino championship play-off between Libertas and Tre Penne will be played, which will decide the 52nd and the last domestic champions of 2011 & 2011-12 football seasons of UEFA zone.

Malko · Post by **Malko** » Tue May 29, 2012 12:59

...and thats a potential team for F91 Diddeleng in the first CR of CL....

1 · Post by 1 » Wed May 30, 2012 20:36

Tre Penne - last champions of 2011 & 2011-12 seasons
They won their first league title in history

1 · Post by 1 » Wed May 30, 2012 20:38

2012 & 2012-13

Still have the chance to defend - 8th
Dinamo (CRO)

Still have the chance to defend - 7th
BATE (BLR)

Still have the chance to defend - 6th
Partizan (SRB)

Still have the chance to defend - 5th
Ekranas (LTU)

Still have the chance to defend - 4th
Basel (SUI)
HJK (FIN)
Linfield (NIR)
Şahtar (UKR)

Still have the chance to defend - 3rd
Ajax (NED)
Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Diddeleng (LUX)
Flora (EST)
Maribor (SVN)
Neftçi (AZE)
Olimpiakos (GRE)
Porto (POR)
Shamrock Rovers (IRL)
Skënderbeu (ALB)
Valletta (MLT)
Zenit (RUS)
Zestaponi (GEO)

Still have the chance to defend - 2nd
AEL (CYP)
Anderlecht (BEL)
B36 (FRO)
Budućnost (MNE)
Celtic (SCO)
CFR Cluj (ROM)
Debrecen (HUN)
Galatasaray (TUR)
Hapoel İroni Kiryat Şmona (ISR)
Helsingborg (SWE)
Juventus (ITA)
KR (ISL)
Ludogorets (BUL)
Lusitanos (AND)
Manchester City (ENG)
Molde (NOR)
Montpellier (FRA)
Nordsjælland (DEN)
Real Madrid (ESP)
Red Bull Salzburg (AUT)
Sheriff (MDA)
Śląsk (POL)
Slovan (CZE)
Şahtyor (KAZ)
The New Saints (WAL)
Tre Penne (SMA)
Ulisses (ARM)
Vardar (MKD)
Ventspils (LAT)
Željezničar (BIH)
Žilina (SVK)