CL Revenue Distribution
Thanks. This more equitable distribution model is very welcome.
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I'm assuming this means the distribution shares of the remaining 90% between CL,EL and ECL will not change?Juliusz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 20:05 New distribution shares from 2024 on:
27.5% - equal fee (currently 25%)
37.5% - performance fee (currently 30%)
35% - market pool and 10-year-coefficient merged (currently 45% in total)
Solidarity payments share for clubs not qualified for league phase will increase from 7% to 10%, specifically for clubs not qualified for Europe at all (from 4% to 7%).
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/02 ... ropean-fo/
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Without knowing the full details yet I think that these changes will be broadly welcomed as can be seen form some of the posts already below this one.Juliusz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 20:05 New distribution shares from 2024 on:
27.5% - equal fee (currently 25%)
37.5% - performance fee (currently 30%)
35% - market pool and 10-year-coefficient merged (currently 45% in total)
Solidarity payments share for clubs not qualified for league phase will increase from 7% to 10%, specifically for clubs not qualified for Europe at all (from 4% to 7%).
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/02 ... ropean-fo/
My question would be regarding the solidarity changes. If there was some headroom for improving this I would have preferred there to have been an equal split in improvement between the participating and non-participating clubs. Isn't there a danger that the non-participating clubs in some cases might do as well if not better than some of the participating ones? I guess we won't know that until the full details are released.
Presumably not, because the share for clubs eliminated in qualifying will be 10%, while the share for clubs not participating at all will be 7%.
Top 15 most successful countries according to the current model in the last 3 seasons so far (prize money/euros)
1.ESP 1,020,655 euros
2. ENG 985 095
3.ITA 805 978
4. GER 800 136
5. POR 507 106
6. FRA 412 933
7.NET 297 326
8. UKR 192 647
9. BEL 169 738
10. AUT 166 512
11. SCO 131 878
12.TUR 130 770
13. DEN 122 242
14. SUI 92 314
15. CZE 81 655
It can be seen that the Spanish clubs earned more prize money than the English clubs, just as the Portuguese clubs earned more than the French clubs. From the next season, France gets another place in the CL, and will probably break into fifth place in terms of prize money, while Portugal will stagnate.
1.ESP 1,020,655 euros
2. ENG 985 095
3.ITA 805 978
4. GER 800 136
5. POR 507 106
6. FRA 412 933
7.NET 297 326
8. UKR 192 647
9. BEL 169 738
10. AUT 166 512
11. SCO 131 878
12.TUR 130 770
13. DEN 122 242
14. SUI 92 314
15. CZE 81 655
It can be seen that the Spanish clubs earned more prize money than the English clubs, just as the Portuguese clubs earned more than the French clubs. From the next season, France gets another place in the CL, and will probably break into fifth place in terms of prize money, while Portugal will stagnate.
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It's actually on the big Portuguese teams themselves - they could have spread the wealth more, even 25 a year for the 5-7 positions, and in the long term they can be the 5th ranked country. That would gain them much more than the loss (and the league would be more competitive and perhaps there would be more interest)babaluj1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 16:57 Top 15 most successful countries according to the current model in the last 3 seasons so far (prize money/euros)
1.ESP 1,020,655 euros
2. ENG 985 095
3.ITA 805 978
4. GER 800 136
5. POR 507 106
6. FRA 412 933
7.NET 297 326
8. UKR 192 647
9. BEL 169 738
10. AUT 166 512
11. SCO 131 878
12.TUR 130 770
13. DEN 122 242
14. SUI 92 314
15. CZE 81 655
It can be seen that the Spanish clubs earned more prize money than the English clubs, just as the Portuguese clubs earned more than the French clubs. From the next season, France gets another place in the CL, and will probably break into fifth place in terms of prize money, while Portugal will stagnate.
Those 4 big Portuguese clubs have earned over 20% more prize money than the French League in the last 3 seasons, mostly thanks to the CL where they have been much more successful. In the future, it will be very difficult to repeat it, because according to the new system, France has 3 direct places + 1 club in the CL qualifications from next season, while Portugal has only 1 direct place + 1 club in the CL qualifications.amirbachar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 14:45It's actually on the big Portuguese teams themselves - they could have spread the wealth more, even 25 a year for the 5-7 positions, and in the long term they can be the 5th ranked country. That would gain them much more than the loss (and the league would be more competitive and perhaps there would be more interest)babaluj1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 16:57 Top 15 most successful countries according to the current model in the last 3 seasons so far (prize money/euros)
1.ESP 1,020,655 euros
2. ENG 985 095
3.ITA 805 978
4. GER 800 136
5. POR 507 106
6. FRA 412 933
7.NET 297 326
8. UKR 192 647
9. BEL 169 738
10. AUT 166 512
11. SCO 131 878
12.TUR 130 770
13. DEN 122 242
14. SUI 92 314
15. CZE 81 655
It can be seen that the Spanish clubs earned more prize money than the English clubs, just as the Portuguese clubs earned more than the French clubs. From the next season, France gets another place in the CL, and will probably break into fifth place in terms of prize money, while Portugal will stagnate.
It is very likely that France will earn significantly more in the future, while Portugal will stagnate. UEFA protects the Top 5 leagues!
Well I don't think that Portugal dropping below Netherlands has anything to do with the new system.babaluj1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:29Those 4 big Portuguese clubs have earned over 20% more prize money than the French League in the last 3 seasons, mostly thanks to the CL where they have been much more successful. In the future, it will be very difficult to repeat it, because according to the new system, France has 3 direct places + 1 club in the CL qualifications from next season, while Portugal has only 1 direct place + 1 club in the CL qualifications.amirbachar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 14:45It's actually on the big Portuguese teams themselves - they could have spread the wealth more, even 25 a year for the 5-7 positions, and in the long term they can be the 5th ranked country. That would gain them much more than the loss (and the league would be more competitive and perhaps there would be more interest)babaluj1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 16:57 Top 15 most successful countries according to the current model in the last 3 seasons so far (prize money/euros)
1.ESP 1,020,655 euros
2. ENG 985 095
3.ITA 805 978
4. GER 800 136
5. POR 507 106
6. FRA 412 933
7.NET 297 326
8. UKR 192 647
9. BEL 169 738
10. AUT 166 512
11. SCO 131 878
12.TUR 130 770
13. DEN 122 242
14. SUI 92 314
15. CZE 81 655
It can be seen that the Spanish clubs earned more prize money than the English clubs, just as the Portuguese clubs earned more than the French clubs. From the next season, France gets another place in the CL, and will probably break into fifth place in terms of prize money, while Portugal will stagnate.
It is very likely that France will earn significantly more in the future, while Portugal will stagnate. UEFA protects the Top 5 leagues!
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It will have a lot to do with the introduction of the Conference League that gave the Netherlands 3 CL spotsTommyChat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 18:20Well I don't think that Portugal dropping below Netherlands has anything to do with the new system.babaluj1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:29Those 4 big Portuguese clubs have earned over 20% more prize money than the French League in the last 3 seasons, mostly thanks to the CL where they have been much more successful. In the future, it will be very difficult to repeat it, because according to the new system, France has 3 direct places + 1 club in the CL qualifications from next season, while Portugal has only 1 direct place + 1 club in the CL qualifications.amirbachar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 14:45
It's actually on the big Portuguese teams themselves - they could have spread the wealth more, even 25 a year for the 5-7 positions, and in the long term they can be the 5th ranked country. That would gain them much more than the loss (and the league would be more competitive and perhaps there would be more interest)
It is very likely that France will earn significantly more in the future, while Portugal will stagnate. UEFA protects the Top 5 leagues!
But Portugal having 3 CL slots for the past 3 seasons actually has a lot to do with failing to make ECL groups in each one of them.amirbachar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 20:49It will have a lot to do with the introduction of the Conference League that gave the Netherlands 3 CL spotsTommyChat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 18:20Well I don't think that Portugal dropping below Netherlands has anything to do with the new system.babaluj1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:29
Those 4 big Portuguese clubs have earned over 20% more prize money than the French League in the last 3 seasons, mostly thanks to the CL where they have been much more successful. In the future, it will be very difficult to repeat it, because according to the new system, France has 3 direct places + 1 club in the CL qualifications from next season, while Portugal has only 1 direct place + 1 club in the CL qualifications.
It is very likely that France will earn significantly more in the future, while Portugal will stagnate. UEFA protects the Top 5 leagues!
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Because the top 4 teams succeeded more, not less.TommyChat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 02:28But Portugal having 3 CL slots for the past 3 seasons actually has a lot to do with failing to make ECL groups in each one of them.amirbachar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 20:49It will have a lot to do with the introduction of the Conference League that gave the Netherlands 3 CL spots
The other 2 each year made almost no coefficient points.
This is indeed the same thing I posted somewhere recently. The top 4 in Portugal profit a lot but forget to develop the rest of their league. In Netherlands it appears to be more solidarity and more league development. The Conference league ackowledges much more than the Europa league did the depth-strength of a league.
Will the new system keep on doing this?
Will the Portuguese league discuss this issue?
Don’t know, but interesting to see where it goes……
Will the new system keep on doing this?
Will the Portuguese league discuss this issue?
Don’t know, but interesting to see where it goes……
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Yeah, if the Portuguese were smart and do Centralized TV Deal, even 20M Euros more to teams ranked 5-7 would be huge.Ricardo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:56 This is indeed the same thing I posted somewhere recently. The top 4 in Portugal profit a lot but forget to develop the rest of their league. In Netherlands it appears to be more solidarity and more league development. The Conference league ackowledges much more than the Europa league did the depth-strength of a league.
Will the new system keep on doing this?
Will the Portuguese league discuss this issue?
Don’t know, but interesting to see where it goes……
Even without Centralized deal, simply subsidizing them would help the league and their own interests in the long term.
It will be really hard for both Porto and Benfica to qualify for Fifa CWC in the upcoming cycle.