Turkish Season 15-16

[Thunder_PT]

Sure bet in Super League outright?
betvictor offering 2.5 on Besiktas
and bet365 offering 1.9 on Fener.
€300 on Besiktas and €400 on Fener, and you earn money no matter who wins

Unless someone else somehow wins :p

[SteffenM]

Sure bet in Super League outright?
betvictor offering 2.5 on Besiktas
and bet365 offering 1.9 on Fener.
€300 on Besiktas and €400 on Fener, and you earn money no matter who wins

Unless someone else somehow wins :p

I am not following the Turkish league that closely, but it seems rather unlikely Konyaspor will pick up 13 points on Fenerbache in 11 matches to be played.

[apurvdanke]

Most probably Fenerbahce will win this year. And earn their own 4th star. Besiktas has developed a tendency to lead the standings for 2/3rd of the season and give it all away in the final stretch. This has happened over the last few years.

Galatasaray should finish 3rd or 4th at least(in spite of all the mess they are in) and limit their European ban to 1 year. This is also a chance to get their financial house in order.

[bjkman1903]

If by the time that Besiktas play against Trabzon (the missing game) we are not leader again, I guess Fener will be favourite then.
I do not expect Fener to win both Akhisar and Galatasaray away - but if they do, will be a huge advantage.

It's true that Besiktas do not have any home ground yet, but Fener is still playing Europa League and Turkish Cup whereas we ony have the league left. It's still 50-50 as we have our desitiny in hand whereas Fener hasn't.

[bjkman1903]

Week 24

Table :

56 - Fenerbahçe
55 -
54 - Beşiktaş (1 game in hand)
53 -
52 -
51 -
50 -
49 -
48 -
47 -
46 -
45 -
44 -
43 - Torku Konyaspor
42 -
41 -
40 - Medipol Başakşehir
39 -
38 - Galatasaray
37 - Kasımpaşa / Akhisar Bld.
36 -
35 -
34 -
33 - Osmanlıspor
32 - Bursaspor
31 - Gençlerbirliği / Gaziantepspor
30 -
29 -
28 - Çaykur Rizespor / Antalyaspor
27 - Trabzonspor (1 game in hand)
26 -
25 -
24 -
23 - Kayserispor
22 -
21 -
20 - Mersin İY
19 -
18 - Sivasspor
17 - Eskişehirspor

Champions League Group Stage
Champions League NCQ3
Europa League Group Stage (Cup Winner)
Europa League Q3
Europa League Q2
Relegation

Overview

Title Race : No changes since last week as both teams have won. Fener hosts Kayseri and they are huge favourites, whereas Besiktas will travel to Rize - will be a tricky away game as Rize just lost once during their last 12 home games - and just 2 draws.

EL Race : Konya is imo huge favourite to get an EL ticket. If I am not mistaken, they are the best team in 2016 so far, only two draws and full wins. Medipol Basaksehir has a good advantage compared to their opponents as they have a favorable fixture.
5th place in the league will probably be an EL ticket as well - if Galatasaray manages to eliminate Rizespor.

Turkish Cup : Fener v Konya / Galatasaray v Rizespor

Relegation Battle: 3 teams between Kayseri, Mersin, Sivas and Eskisehir will relegate - most likely. Kayseri may have an advantage of 3 points but they play v Fener in Istanbul, and then they host Eskisehir (very critical game)

[bjkman1903]

Week 25

Table :

60 - Beşiktaş
59 - Fenerbahçe
58 -
57 -
56 -
55 -
54 -
53 -
52 -
51 -
50 -
49 -
48 -
47 -
46 - Torku Konyaspor
45 -
44 -
43 -
42 -
41 -
40 - Medipol Başakşehir
39 - Galatasaray
38 - Akhisar Bld.
37 - Kasımpaşa
36 - Osmanlıspor
35 -
34 -
33 -
32 - Bursaspor / Gençlerbirliği
31 - Antalyaspor / Gaziantepspor
30 - Trabzonspor
29 -
28 - Çaykur Rizespor
27 -
26 -
25 -
24 -
23 - Kayserispor
22 -
21 - Sivasspor
20 - Mersin İY
19 -
18 - Eskişehirspor

Champions League Group Stage
Champions League NCQ3
Europa League Group Stage (Cup Winner)
Europa League Q3
Europa League Q2
Relegation

[bjkman1903]

Remaining games :

Beşiktaş ..............|........... Fenerbahçe

v Antalyaspor ...........|........ at Galatasaray
at Kasımpaşa ...........|......... v Osmanlıspor
v Bursaspor .............|......... at Konyaspor
at Sivasspor ............|.......... v Mersin IY
at Akhisar Bld. .........|.......... at Trabzonspor
v Kayserispor ...........|........... v Gaziantepspor
at Galatasaray ..........|........... at Medipol Başakşehir
v Osmanlıspor ..........|........... v Gençlerbirliği
at Konyaspor ............|........... at Sivasspor

[apurvdanke]

At the moment it is looking like

CL GS - Besiktas/Fenerbahce (either way..too close)
CL 3QR - Fenerbahce/Besiktas
EL GS - Konyaspor(most likely) as I think Fenerbahce will win the Turkish Cup
EL 3QR - Istanbul Basaksehir
EL 2QR - Akhisar Belediyespor (as galatasaray is banned). Do thay have a UEFA license?

A good thing to happen would be if somehow Konyaspor finishes 3rd, and Fener wins the cup, Konya gets direct entry to EL GS - a rarity in Turkish football as all the European GS entries have been dominated by Gala, Fener, Besiktas and Trabzon till now.

[bjkman1903]

A good thing to happen would be if somehow Konyaspor finishes 3rd, and Fener wins the cup, Konya gets direct entry to EL GS - a rarity in Turkish football as all the European GS entries have been dominated by Gala, Fener, Besiktas and Trabzon till now.

Well Konya can also win Turkish cup and make sure to get the EL GS spot. In any case, their EL ticket is almost guaranteed and deserved.
Galatasaray can also win the cup as it is their last chance of "saving" their season. They might totally give up the league (if not already) just to focus on the cup.

I'd say CL Besiktas / Fener
EL Konya

the last EL tickets between Gala, Istanbul B., Kasimpasa, Akhisar and Osmanli. Rizespor also has slim chances through the national cup.
Gala is banned but first they need to qualify to get rid of that ban next season already.

For the title race, imo very critical days ahead of us. Fener play v Braga and Galatasaray and I think that these games will highly influence their destiny.
Fener going further in the EL is good for our coefficient but also means two extra games to play (at least) - and Gala away for the big derby. Although Galatasaray's dead in the league, it's still a derby at home, and they would want to win and possibly prevent them of getting the fourth star this season.

[bjkman1903]

Beşiktaş 1-0 Antalyaspor

This was Beşiktaş' 3rd league game in 8 days, and 3rd win. We didn't score a lot of goals but at least the defence was flawless and we didn't give opprtunities to a strong Antalya side.

What really annoys me is that each week we are playing against 12 men. Every week we are not given at least one 100% penalty (whereas it's the contrary for our main opponent) - this is something really frustrating.

at Trabzon - clear handball


v Antalya - another handball tonight (+ another penalty not given to Atiba's action)


It happens almost regularly that I am unfortunately used to see it happen.
Now we are 4 points ahead of Fener - hopefully they will not win the derby v Galatasaray tomorrow.

[Duketown]

UEFA's FFP-rules are finally getting grip on Turkish clubs. Since 2012, UEFA is closely monitoring clubs like Fenerbace, Galatasaray, Trabzonspor, Besiktas and Bursaspor due to terrible finances. Currently, Bursaspor has been excluded from UEFA football. Next year, Galatasary will most likely be banned for 2 seasons of UEFA cup football. Fenerbace is expected to have an €50 million annual loss. Besiktas is hardly able to pay players salary. Trabzonspor is doing worsed of all Turkish clubs, according to UEFA. With accumulating debts, Turkish footballs outlook isn't very good for comming 5 years.

Besides, Passolig (bank regulated fan ID) is there to stay; attendency rates are now below 9.000 which makes financial problems even bigger. Implictions of all new stadiums are unkown but might add to financial problems. Turkey always had potential but hardly was able to utilize it. Why would they now, given terrible circumstances?

Looking further, it's hard to predict where money is moving. For now, MS and CSL are great players drain league. Italy, Russia and Ukraine are having similar deep problems, not just fixed with some more cash. Those FA's have a lot of cleaning to do, similar to Greece or the rest of Eastern Europe. Portugal and some Spanish clubs are also in danger by TPO. I expect some clubs in Italy and Spain will change owner, just to survive: i.e Seville and AC Milan. Inter, Roma, Valencia and Atletico already sold (part) of their soul just to survive. Is this also a likely scenario in Turkey?

[apurvdanke]

Galatasaray Fenerbahce derby is postponed just an hour before kickoff. Great timing by TFF and so much disappointment for both sets of fans. This was a chance for Istanbul to show that it will not be cowed down by terror threats. If the game was to be called off then why so late?

[bjkman1903]

Galatasaray Fenerbahce derby is postponed just an hour before kickoff. Great timing by TFF and so much disappointment for both sets of fans. This was a chance for Istanbul to show that it will not be cowed down by terror threats. If the game was to be called off then why so late?

Amateurs. That is the only answer possible to that question.
First they even tried to make the game play without fans - obviously Galatasaray was against it and decided that they will not play without their fans.

[bjkman1903]

Week 26

Table :

63 - Beşiktaş
62 -
61 -
60 -
59 - Fenerbahçe (1 game in hand)
58 -
57 -
56 -
55 -
54 -
53 -
52 -
51 -
50 -
49 -
48 -
47 - Torku Konyaspor
46 -
45 -
44 -
43 -
42 -
41 - Medipol Başakşehir
40 -
39 - Osmanlıspor / Galatasaray (1 game in hand) / Akhisar Bld.
38 -
37 - Kasımpaşa
36 -
35 - Bursaspor
34 -
33 - Trabzonspor
32 - Gençlerbirliği / Gaziantepspor
31 - Antalyaspor
30 -
29 - Çaykur Rizespor
28 -
27 -
26 -
25 -
24 - Kayserispor
23 -
22 -
21 - Mersin İY / Sivasspor
20 -
19 - Eskişehirspor

Champions League Group Stage
Champions League NCQ3
Europa League Group Stage (Cup Winner)
Europa League Q3
Europa League Q2
Relegation

Overview

* Istanbul derby between Galatasaray and Fener has been postponed (potential terrorist attacks) - we do not know when it will be played yet. Pressure on Fenerbahçe as they are now 4 points behind Beşiktaş.
* No big changes for the EL race & relegation battle compared to last week
* Next MD - Beşiktaş at Kasimpaşa, Fener hosts Osmanli, Galatasaray at Eskişehir & Rize v Kayseri for an important battle near the relegation zone.
* Beşiktaş will be back to its new home after almost 3 years.. Next home game v Bursaspor will be played here :

[bjkman1903]

Galatasaray v Fenerbahçe will be played on Wednesday 13th of April.

Fener wanted to plat it on the 6th of April, whereas Gala prefered to play towards the end of next month (27th of April) - so it's in between those dates.