Spanish Season--LaLiga2, 2017-2018

[AlanK]

Today, Wed. 1 Nov., the makeup of the game scheduled in Week 7

Nástic 0, Barça B 0 The point lifts Nástic out of the drop--see post above.

[AlanK]

Day 1 of Jornada 13 is today, Fri. 3 Nov.

20:30 Numancia 1, Alcorcón 0 Numancia is eighth; could climb into a tie for second place on points with a win here. Alcor is now three points above the drop in 14th place. Manu del Moral once again provides a winner for Numancia, at 60', lifting Numancia even with Granada and Sporting.

Day 2 of Jornada 13 is tomorrow, Sat. 4 Nov.

16:00 Rayo 1, Albacete 1 Rayo has won three and tied two over the last five games; they'd move, at least for the moment, into the league lead--albeit on GD--with a win here. Alba is top of the drop; would move thereabove if they get anything in Vallecas. Another "lesser evil" ("mal menor") for Rayo--at least we didn't lose Héctor Hernández gave Alba the lead at 58'; Raúl de Thomas saved a point (again ) by scoring at 79'--it was he who tied the game against Sporting a couple weeks back. We will almost surely drop out of the playoff spots with this result.

18:00 Sevilla At. 1, Tenerife 1 Sevilla At. is the only team in the top two divisions without a win this season. Even a win won't be enough to lift them out of the cellar. Tete is ninth; a win could lift them to a playoff spot. Longo gives Tete the lead at 23'; Pozo ties for Sevilla at 70'.

20:00 Lorca 1, Córdoba 0 The fight for survival, as #21 hosts #20. Winner could climb out of the drop. Onwu scores the winner for Lorca at 90'.

20:30 Reus 1, Sporting 0 Reus is in mid-table, four points above the drop and four points shy of the last playoff spot. Sporting is in third place; a win would mean that they'd finish the day atop the league. Luis Gustavo scores the winner for Reus at 68'.

[seso]

Congratulations to Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini for reaching 600 apps with Barcelona and 122 apps with the Argentinian national team (in all competitions)!! Truly the king of world football!!

Co-kings Xavi and Andres Iniesta have 767 and 643 apps respectively with Barcelona!!

[AlanK]

Congratulations to Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini for reaching 600 apps with Barcelona and 122 apps with the Argentinian national team (in all competitions)!! Truly the king of world football!!

Co-kings Xavi and Andres Iniesta have 767 and 643 apps respectively with Barcelona!!

Is this a put-down of Xavi, Ini, and Messi, since it appears here in the SECOND-DIVISION thread (Just yankin' your chain, man )

[AlanK]

Day 3 of Jornada 13 is today, Sunday 5 Nov.

12:00 Oviedo 3, Lugo 2 Huge win for Oviedo against the league leaders. At 16', Cristian Herrera gives Lugo the advantage--0-1. Saúl Berjón ties for Oviedo with a pk at 51'; the old pro Miguel Linares makes it 2-1 at 54'. Ramón Azeez ties for Lugo at 61'. The winner is by "Saúl's big brother"--that would be Aarón Ñíguez--the hardest last name in Spanish fútbol to type --3-2. Lugo will lose the league lead later today; Oviedo climbs to mid-table. I'll try to get attendance figures later. 12,507 on hand--a bit disappointing, but a 12:00 noon kickoff on a Sunday is a crummy starting time

16:00 Leonesa 1, Barça "B" 1 Both are in mid-table, three points above the drop. Lozano gives Barça the advantage at 8'--0-1. Rodri ties for Leonesa at 56'.

18:00 Valladolid 0, Nástic 3 A win could move Valladolid to second place--for the moment. Nástic is tied for "top of the drop." And Nástic is blowing Valladolid away--goals by Máikel Mesa at 9' and 63' and by Jean-Luc at 52' give Nástic a comfortable lead, which they hold to move above the drop.

18:00 Osasuna 0, Granada 0 Game of the Week. Winner takes over first place. A tie is good enough for Granada to climb to first place on GD over Lugo. Still scoreless at 70'. Scoreless tie lifts Granada into first place, which they will hold at the end of the jornada UNLESS Huesca beats Zaragoza by four or more tomorrow.

20:00 Almería 0, Cádiz Both have fallen on rather hard times: Almería is above the drop on GD; Cádiz is two points ahead of Almería. Salva Sánchez scores for Cádiz at 39' and at 49'--0-2 with the game winding down. And Cádiz holds on. Almería is in the drop.

Day 4 of Jornada 13 is tomorrow, Monday 6 Nov.

21:00 Huesca 3, Zaragoza 1 Derby alert--the Aragonese Derby If Osasuna and Granada tie on Sunday, Huesca could share the league lead on points with a win in this game. Zaragoza is in lower Mid-table. Huesca wins the big one--moves to second place, tied for first on points At 16', Melero makes it 1-0; at 63', Juan Hernández scores for 2-0. At 84', Zapater cuts the margin--2-1; but a minute later, Juan Hernández hits his second of the night to ice it--3-1.

[seso]

Alan, you have separate threads for the first and second division!!! Didn't notice that!

[AlanK]

Alan, you have separate threads for the first and second division!!! Didn't notice that!

Indeed I do. Too confusing to put it all in one thread.

[Carson]

I have a question I see Sporting Gijon B team are in the playoff positions in the Segunda B if Gijon fails to win promotion to La Liga do Gijon B team forego their place in the Segunda B playoffs or do they enter them anyway?.

[subway14]

I have a question I see Sporting Gijon B team are in the playoff positions in the Segunda B if Gijon fails to win promotion to La Liga do Gijon B team forego their place in the Segunda B playoffs or do they enter them anyway?.

that's what I wondered earlier in the thread

I guess that if the B team finishes in the play-off it depends where A team is placed atm, if they have no mathematical chance to be promoted or reach the play-offs then B team won't participate in the play-offs at all and some other non-reserve team will get a play-off spot

if A team is in the play-off zone then both will start the play-offs, and if A gets eliminated B will also be eliminated and the team that drew B will get a bye

there is also the same issue for Córdoba, Valladolid, Granada, and Osasuna

[AlanK]

I have a question I see Sporting Gijon B team are in the playoff positions in the Segunda B if Gijon fails to win promotion to La Liga do Gijon B team forego their place in the Segunda B playoffs or do they enter them anyway?.

that's what I wondered earlier in the thread

I guess that if the B team finishes in the play-off it depends where A team is placed atm, if they have no mathematical chance to be promoted or reach the play-offs then B team won't participate in the play-offs at all and some other non-reserve team will get a play-off spot

if A team is in the play-off zone then both will start the play-offs, and if A gets eliminated B will also be eliminated and the team that drew B will get a bye

there is also the same issue for Córdoba, Valladolid, Granada, and Osasuna

I think you identified the key point here--where is the "A" team placed at the moment Second Division "A" finishes up later than Second Division "B" because of the number of clubs involved--22 in "A", 20 in each of four groups of "B". Such problems come up rarely, thank goodness. Given how close the race is in "A" this season thus far, we could run into the problem since Sporting's "B" team is doing quite well. And if the season ended today, Sporting's "A" team would be in a playoff that could last until just about the last weekend in June

[AlanK]

The top and the drop after Jornada 13

Well, on second thought, I'll postpone "The Top" until after the Huesca-Zaragoza game today--Huesca could end up anywhere from first to seventh depending on the outcome of that game two teams at 23 points, three teams at 22 points, one team at 21 points, and Huesca at 20 going in

The Drop

18. Albacete-----------13 points; +9-18 Next hosts Almería.
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19. Lorca--------------12 points; +12-17 At Alcorcón.
20. Almería------------12 points; +9-15 At Albacete.
21. Córdoba-----------10 points; +14-26 Hosts Osasuna.
22. Sevilla At.-----------7 points; +8-18 At Granada. The "King of the Tie," Sevilla At. has tied seven of 13 games. Although they're "tied" with four other teams that have also tied seven games . . . And they're the only team in the top two divisions that has not won even one game

[subway14]

I have a question I see Sporting Gijon B team are in the playoff positions in the Segunda B if Gijon fails to win promotion to La Liga do Gijon B team forego their place in the Segunda B playoffs or do they enter them anyway?.

that's what I wondered earlier in the thread

I guess that if the B team finishes in the play-off it depends where A team is placed atm, if they have no mathematical chance to be promoted or reach the play-offs then B team won't participate in the play-offs at all and some other non-reserve team will get a play-off spot

if A team is in the play-off zone then both will start the play-offs, and if A gets eliminated B will also be eliminated and the team that drew B will get a bye

there is also the same issue for Córdoba, Valladolid, Granada, and Osasuna

I think you identified the key point here--where is the "A" team placed at the moment Second Division "A" finishes up later than Second Division "B" because of the number of clubs involved--22 in "A", 20 in each of four groups of "B". Such problems come up rarely, thank goodness. Given how close the race is in "A" this season thus far, we could run into the problem since Sporting's "B" team is doing quite well. And if the season ended today, Sporting's "A" team would be in a playoff that could last until just about the last weekend in June

it is interesting what happens tho if B wins the champions play-off and A doesn't get promoted in the very end, like the team that lost to B is gonna continue playing in the non-champions play-off but if B doesn't get promoted are they gonna get promoted instead? and will the other team who played them gonna get a bye then? don't the regulations say something about this

also Granada B is doing quite well, they could also reach the play-offs

[AlanK]

@subway14: I'm sure that such info is readily available in the RFEF website--joke alert-- I'm not sure at all. If such a case comes up, the usual websites will have clickbait articles to explain it all

[AlanK]

The Top after the completion of Jornada 13

1. Granada------------23 points; +23-13 Next hosts Sevilla At. Can they win promotion at the first chance
2. Huesca-------------23 points; +17-9 At Barça "B". Are they a serious candidate for promotion
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3. Lugo---------------23 points; +14-12 Hosts Numancia.
4. Sporting------------22 points; +17-9 Hosts Valladolid.
5. Osasuna------------22 points; +16-8 At Córdoba.
6. Numancia-----------22 points; +17-12 At Lugo.
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7. Rayo---------------21 points; +18-13 At Zaragoza.

[AlanK]

Day 1 of Jornada 14 is today, Friday 10 Nov.; this is the one-third mark of the season

21:00 Córdoba 0, Osasuna 1 Córdoba is having a horrible season--next-to-last, with 10 points in 13 games; nine losses in those 13 games. A win in this game could possibly lift them out of the drop. Osasuna is in fifth place, but they're only one point off the lead in the tightest race at the top of the standings in recent memory. Xisco wins it for Osasuna at 49'. Osasuna is now alone at the top . . . at least until tomorrow. Córdoba stays mired in a nightmare of a season.

Day 2 of Jornada 14 is tomorrow, Sat. 11 Nov.

13:00 Alcorcón 1, Lorca 1 Alcor is 17th, three points above the drop. Lorca is the top of the drop, with 12 points. A win would take them past Alcor on GD, and almost surely would take them above the drop. Lorca was zero for the road going into this game, but a goal by Javier Muñoz at 87' gives them a tie, after Dorca gave Alcor the lead at 8'. Lorca moves above the drop for the moment.

16:00 Albacete 2, Almería 0 Albacete is now a point above the drop and a point above 20th place Almería. David Rodríguez gives Alba the lead at 36'. Román Zozulya makes it 2-0 at 58'. If this result holds up, Alba will be out of the drop and Lorca will be back in it And so it comes to pass, and Almería will stay in 20th place and will stay in the drop for at least two more weeks.

18:00 Zaragoza 3, Rayo 2 Zaragoza is 15th, three points above the drop; this has been a really crummy season for them thus far. Rayo has tied their last three games after winning their previous three, all of which has left them two points back of first place and one point back of a playoff spot. Grippo makes it 1-0 for Zaragoza at 26'. Febas makes it 2-0 at 42'. Rayo comes back to tie in the second half on goals by Raúl de Tomás at 53' and Oscar Trejo at 73', but Zaragoza wins it on a goal by Pombo at 78'.

18:00 Tenerife 2, Leonesa 0 Tete is in mid-table, five points back of the leaders and six points above the drop. Leonesa is two points back of Tete. Malbasic gives Tete the lead at 2'--1-0. Longo makes it 2-0 at 11'. And 2-0 is the final score.

19:30 Barça "B" 0, Huesca 2 Barça has a mediocre 2-2-2 record in the Mini Estadi, where this game will be played. They're in lower mid-table, four points above the drop. Huesca is one of the surprise teams in a positive sense--they're in second place, behind the pacesetters only on GD. They're 5-3-0 in their last eight games, with 12 goals scored and four conceded. Huesca looks more and more like they're for real: Juan Hernández gives them a lead of 0-2 with goals at 51' and 61'. Huesca moves into first place; they'll be passed on GD by Granada should Granada win the early game tomorrow, at home against the "farolillo rojo," Sevilla At.