German Football Season 2019/20

[Todor]

Where can I find the 5-year ranking which is used for distributing the prize money in the BL?

https://www.fernsehgelder.de/2019-20/ranking/

(It's an unofficial website.)

Thank you! I expected it would be official somewhere, with an explanation of how the ranking is done. Anu idea, how it works?

[spoonman]

Here's an official press release in German:
https://www.fernsehgelder.de/pdf/201611 ... uessel.pdf

Difficult to explain in English but the most important column ("Bestand") accounts for 70% of the money. This is the actual 5-year ranking, where the most recent season has a factor of 5 and the oldest season has a factor of 1. The No.1 team of the Bundesliga gets 5.8% from this pot, while No. 18 gets 2.9%. No.1 of the 2.Bundesliga gets 1.69%, No.18 gets 0.75%.

The "Wettbewerb" column, which accounts for 23% of the money, is similiar. But e.g. the Top 6 of the Bundesliga all get an equal share from that pot, etc.

[Meister Ether]

So, the "Glubberer"s from Nuremberg get a futher extension of their season. Playoff 2/3 it is.
Just like yesterday in BuLi: No help provided by eternal enemies. The Franconians only relegated from BuLi last season.
I don't see how they could win any of the thinkable opponents. It is sad to see such a club fading from top tiers. Again. Like K'lautern and 1860 recently.

But there is no surprise really, just you look at the 'famous' records 1. FC Nürnberg holding:
- only club relegated the most times from 1. Bundesliga: 9
- only club relegated as defending Bundesliga champions: 1968/69 (also the 1st time)
- only club relegated from BuLi as current cup winners: 2007/08

They have been in 3rd tier only once: 1996-97, a regional league back then.

[Lyonnais]

WS marks - Final ranking (average of the best 17 performances)


Top 10

8.73 Robert Lewandowski (Bayern, FW, 31, POL)
8.53 Jadon Sancho (Dortmund, AMR, 20, ENG)
8.51 Timo Werner (Leipzig, FW, 24, GER)
8.27 Serge Gnabry (Bayern, AML, 24, GER)
8.13 Filip Kostic (Frankfurt, ML, 27, SRB)
8.04 Thomas Müller (Bayern, AMC, 30, GER)
7.96 Alphonso Davies (Bayern, DL, 19, CAN)
7.96 Marcus Thuram (Mönchengladbach, FW, 22, FRA)
7.95 Thorgan Hazard (Dortmund, AMC, 27, BEL)
7.93 Christopher Nkunku (Leipzig, AMC, 22, FRA)
etc.


Best XI

...................... R.Lewandowski (Bayern) - T.Werner (Leipzig) ..........................
.. S.Gnabry (Bayern) - J.Kimmich (Bayern) - Thiago (Bayern) - J.Sancho (Dortmund) ..
A.Davies (Bayern) - M.Hummels (Dortmund) - D.Boyata (Hertha) - A.Hakimi (Dortmund)
......................................... R.Gikiewicz (Union) ......................................


U21 Players

8.53 Jadon Sancho (Dortmund, AMR, 20, ENG)
7.96 Alphonso Davies (Bayern, DL, 19, CAN)
7.91 Kai Havertz (Leverkusen, AMC, 21, GER)
etc.


Best per club

8.73 Robert Lewandowski (Bayern, FW, 31, POL)
8.53 Jadon Sancho (Dortmund, AMR, 20, ENG)
8.51 Timo Werner (Leipzig, FW, 24, GER)
7.96 Marcus Thuram (Mönchengladbach, FW, 22, FRA)
7.91 Kai Havertz (Leverkusen, AMC, 21, GER)
7.57 Robert Skov (Hoffenheim, DL, 24, DEN)
7.69 Wout Weghorst (Wolfsburg, FW, 27, NED)
7.37 Nicolas Höfler (Freiburg, MC, 30, GER)
8.13 Filip Kostic (Frankfurt, ML, 27, SRB)
7.55 Dedryck Boyata (Hertha, DC, 29, BEL)
7.73 Christopher Trimmel (Union, DMR, 33, AUT)
7.55 Suat Serdar (Schalke, MC, 23, GER)
7.48 Robin Quaison (Mainz, FW, 26, SWE)
7.34 Jonas Hector (Köln, DMC, 30, GER)
7.65 Florian Niederlechner (Augsburg, FW, 29, GER)
7.53 Milot Rashica (Bremen, FWL, 24, KOS)
7.31 Erik Tommy (Düsseldorf, ML, 25, GER)
7.32 Kai Pröger (Paderborn, MR, 28, GER)

[Lyonnais]

GK


7.38 Rafal Gikiewicz (Union, GK, 32, POL)
7.38 Rune Jarstein (Hertha, GK, 35, NOR)
7.34 Yann Sommer (Mönchengladbach, GK, 31, SUI)
7.29 Oliver Baumann (Hoffenheim, GK, 30, GER)
7.19 Lukas Hradecky (Leverkusen, GK, 30, FIN)
etc.


Rafal GIKIWIECZ
GK, 32, Union Berlin, Poland
Career: Suwalki - Bialystok - OKS - S.Wroclaw - Braunschweig - Freiburg - U.Berlin (2018)
Titles:
- Champion of Poland 2012
- Winner of the Polish Cup 2010

[Lyonnais]

DC


7.64 Mats Hummels (Dortmund, DC, 31, GER)
7.55 Dedryck Boyata (Hertha, DC, 29, BEL)
7.44 Dayot Upamecano (Leipzig, DC, 21, FRA)
7.36 Martin Hinteregger (Frankfurt, DC, 27, AUT)
7.33 Sven Bender (Leverkusen, DC, 31, GER)
7.33 Lukas Klostermann (Leipzig, DC, 24, GER)
7.31 Lukasz Piszczek (Dortmund, DC, 35, POL)
7.29 David Alaba (Bayern, DC, 28, AUT)
7.28 Nico Elvedi (Mönchengladbach, DC, 23, SUI)
7.25 Sebastian Schnonlau (Paderborn, DC, 25, GER)
etc.


Mats HUMMELS
DC, 31, Dortmund & Germany (70 caps)
Career: Bayern - Dortmund - Bayern - Dortmund (2019)
Titles:
- Winner of the World Cup 2014
- Champion of Germany 2011, 2012, 2017, 2018 & 2019
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2012 & 2019



Dedryck BOYATA
DC, 29, Hertha & Belgium (17 caps)
Career: Man City - Bolton - Twente - Celtic - Hertha (2019)
Titles:
- Champion of Scotland 2016, 2017, 2018 & 2019
- Winner of the FA Cup 2011
- Winner of the Scottish Cup 2017 & 2018

[Lyonnais]

DR / DMR


7.81 Achraf Hakimi (Dortmund, DMR, 21, MOR)
7.73 Benjamin Pavard (Bayern, DR, 24, FRA)
7.73 Christopher Trimmel (Union, DMR, 33, AUT)
7.49 Kevin Mbabu (Wolfsburg, DR, 25, SUI)
7.38 Nordi Mukiele (Leipzig, DR, 22, FRA)
etc.


Achraf HAKIMI
DMR, 21, Dortmund & Morocco (28 caps)
Career: Real Madrid - Dortmund (2018, on loan from Real Madrid)
Titles:
- Winner of the Champions League 2018

[Lyonnais]

DL / DML


7.96 Alphonso Davies (Bayern, DL, 19, CAN)
7.87 Raphael Guerreiro (Dortmund, DML, 26, POR)
7.61 Marcel Halstenberg (Leipzig, DL, 28, GER)
7.57 Robert Skov (Hoffenheim, DL, 24, DEN)
7.42 Philipp Max (Augsburg, DL, 26, GER)
etc.


Alphonso DAVIES
DL, 19, Bayern & Canada (17 caps)
Career: Vancouver - Bayern (2019)
Titles:
- Champion of Germany 2019 & 2020
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2019

[Lyonnais]

DMC / MC


7.90 Joshua Kimmich (Bayern, DMC, 25, GER)
7.84 Thiago (Bayern, DMC, 29, ESP)
7.82 Marcel Sabitzer (Leipzig, MC, 26, AUT)
7.55 Suat Serdar (Schalke, MC, 23, GER)
7.53 Maximilian Arnold (Wolfsburg, MC, 26, GER)
7.41 Leon Goretzka (Bayern, DMC, 25, GER)
7.40 Denis Zakaria (Mönchengladbach, MC, 23, SUI)
7.40 Davy Klaassen (Bremen, MC, 27, NED)
7.39 Florian Neuhaus (Mönchengladbach, MC, 23, GER)
7.37 Nicolas Höfler (Freiburg, MC, 30, GER)
etc.


Joshua KIMMICH
DMC, 25, Bayern & Germany (48 caps)
Career: Leipzig - Bayern (2015)
Titles:
- Winner of the Confederations Cup 2017
- Champion of Germany 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2020
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2016 & 2019



THIAGO ALCANTARA
DMC, 29, Bayern & Spain (37 caps)
Career: Barcelona - Bayern (2013)
Titles:
- Winner of the Champions League 2011
- Champion of Spain 2011 & 2013
- Champion of Germany 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2020
- Winner of the Copa del Rey 2012
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2014, 2016 & 2019

[Lyonnais]

MR / AMR / FWR


8.53 Jadon Sancho (Dortmund, AMR, 20, ENG)
7.45 Kingsley Coman (Bayern, AMR, 24, FRA)
7.43 Pavel Kaderabek (Hoffenheim, MR, 28, CZE)
7.32 Kai Pröger (Paderborn, MR, 28, GER)
7.21 Karim Bellarabi (Leverkusen, AMR, 30, GER)
etc.


Jadon SANCHO - 65 pts
AMR, 20, Dortmund & England (11 caps)
Career: Dortmund (2017)
Titles:
- (youth) Winner of the U17 World Cup 2017

[Lyonnais]

ML / AML / FWL


8.27 Serge Gnabry (Bayern, AML, 24, GER)
8.13 Filip Kostic (Frankfurt, ML, 27, SRB)
7.53 Milot Rashica (Bremen, FWL, 24, KOS)
7.46 Moussa Diaby (Leverkusen, AML, 20, FRA)
7.31 Erik Thommy (Düsseldorf, ML, 25, GER)
etc.


Serge GNABRY
AML, 24, Bayern & Germany (13 caps)
Career: Arsenal - WBA - Bremen - Hoffenheim - Bayern (2018)
Titles:
- Champion of Germany 2019 & 2020



Filip KOSTIC
ML, 27, Frankfurt & Serbia (32 caps)
Career: Radnicki - Groningen - Stuttgart - HSV - Frankfurt (2018)

[Lyonnais]

AMC / FW


8.73 Robert Lewandowski (Bayern, FW, 31, POL)
8.51 Timo Werner (Leipzig, FW, 24, GER)
8.04 Thomas Müller (Bayern, AMC, 30, GER)
7.96 Marcus Thuram (Mönchengladbach, FW, 22, FRA)
7.95 Thorgan Hazard (Dortmund, AMC, 27, BEL)
7.93 Christopher Nkunku (Leipzig, AMC, 22, FRA)
7.91 Kai Havertz (Leverkusen, AMC, 21, GER)
7.81 Alassane Pléa (Mönchengladbach, FW, 27, FRA)
7.69 Sebastian Andersson (Union, FW, 28, SWE)
7.69 Wout Weghorst (Wolfsburg, FW, 27, NED)
etc.


Robert LEWANDOWSKI
FW, 31, Bayern & Poland (112 caps)
Career: Pruszkow - L.Poznan - Dortmund - Bayern (2014)
Titles:
- Champion of Poland 2010
- Champion of Germany 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2020
- Winner of the Polish Cup 2009
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2012, 2016 & 2019



Timo WERNER
FW, 24, Leipzig & Germany (29 caps)
Career: Stuttgart - Leipzig (2016)
Title:
- Winner of the Confederations Cup 2017



Thomas MÜLLER
AMC, 30, Bayern & Germany (100 caps)
Career: Bayern (2008)
Titles:
- Winner of the World Cup 2014
- Winner of the Champions League 2013
- Champion of Germany 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2020
- Winner of the DFB Pokal 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016 & 2019



Marcus THURAM
FW, 22, Mönchengladbach, France
Career: Sochaux - Guingamp - Mönchengladbach (2019)



Thorgan HAZARD
AMC, 27, Dortmund & Belgium (26 caps)
Career: Lens - Z.Waregem - Mönchengladbach - Dortmund (2019)



Christopher NKUNKU
AMC, 22, Leipzig, France
Career: Paris SG - Leipzig (2019)
Titles:
- Champion of France 2016, 2018 & 2019
- Winner of the Coupe de France 2017 & 2018
- Winner of the Coupe de la Ligue 2017 & 2018

[subway14]

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HSV Manager: "At the end of the season our fans will have something to celebrate about."

[Todor]

Here's an official press release in German:
https://www.fernsehgelder.de/pdf/201611 ... uessel.pdf

Difficult to explain in English but the most important column ("Bestand") accounts for 70% of the money. This is the actual 5-year ranking, where the most recent season has a factor of 5 and the oldest season has a factor of 1. The No.1 team of the Bundesliga gets 5.8% from this pot, while No. 18 gets 2.9%. No.1 of the 2.Bundesliga gets 1.69%, No.18 gets 0.75%.

The "Wettbewerb" column, which accounts for 23% of the money, is similiar. But e.g. the Top 6 of the Bundesliga all get an equal share from that pot, etc.

Thanks again! I found this in English https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bund ... 424720.jsp which is quite an expansive description of how the money is split, but I can't still find how the 5-year ranking of the clubs is made. I'm interested as I want to be able to calculate it by myself?
Are the clubs given points depending on the final ranking, something like 1st in 1.BL - 36 points, 2nd - 35 .... 18th in 2.BL - 1 point which are then multiplied by the weight factor and then summed up?
Or is it the number of points they have gathered during the season added together of course converted by a scale to distinguish between the 1.BL and the 2.BL?
Or is it a sort of a complex combination of the two?

[greenbay]

For the by far biggest chunk of money, it works exactly like that. From 36 points for the Bundesliga champions down to 1 point for the 2nd Bundesliga rock bottom. Which is computed for the last 5 season with the most recent season multiplied by 5, the others by 4, 3, 2, 1.