UEFA Championsleague 19/20 Pot 1,2,3,4

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Jua Ferreira wrote:Rule 1: if there is weak pot1 team, a portuguese will draw it.

Outcome=Zenit - Benfica

Rule 2: if a portuguese picks a weak pot1 team, add them a Turkish team
Outcome=zenit-benfica-unknown-galatasaray

Rule3: brand new rule for this season, if turkish-greek draw is possible, make it.

Final draw=zenit-benfica-olympiakos-galatasaray
I hope you are right, I like this group a lot !
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Jua Ferreira wrote:Rule 1: if there is weak pot1 team, a portuguese will draw it.

Outcome=Zenit - Benfica

Rule 2: if a portuguese picks a weak pot1 team, add them a Turkish team
Outcome=zenit-benfica-unknown-galatasaray

Rule3: brand new rule for this season, if turkish-greek draw is possible, make it.

Final draw=zenit-benfica-olympiakos-galatasaray
I hope you are right, I like this group a lot !
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Ricardo wrote:
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Ofcourse, lucky Benfica...
And who gets Inter?.....
You're so addicted to complaining about draws that now you even complain about a draw simulation? :roll:

Do you want me or someone else to run another 10 simuations so that you have more things to complain about? :mrgreen:
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Firnen wrote:I hope you are right, I like this group a lot !
Of course you do! :D how are you enjoying Valbuena and El-Arabi harmony?
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kaerin wrote:
Firnen wrote:I hope you are right, I like this group a lot !
Of course you do! :D how are you enjoying Valbuena and El-Arabi harmony?
Valbuena is a very valuable transfer so far, he has excellent set pieces, already many assists, and does not look like your average 35 year old ex-star who makes easy money. He looks motivated and has quality.

El Arabi only played in the last match and scored 2 goals, nothing super fancy, but this is what Olympiacos expects from him, easy goals, they create many chanches in the league but they were lacking finishers last year.
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I think UEFA should stop all those restrictions that are in the draws..

Just make sure teams from the same country are not in the same group....... and maybe if you really want to.... just make sure that teams from one country are evenly spread over red and blue groups (without making pairings beforehand of wich clubs should not be in the same colored groups)
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Witkop1983 wrote:I think UEFA should stop all those restrictions that are in the draws..

Just make sure teams from the same country are not in the same group....... and maybe if you really want to.... just make sure that teams from one country are evenly spread over red and blue groups (without making pairings beforehand of wich clubs should not be in the same colored groups)
TV rights...this is the problem that makes the draw so complicated. UEFA does not want teams with high TV popularity to play in the same day like Barcelona-Real Madrid.
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Luckometer?

2,5 Manchester City
2,5 Barcelona
4,0 Liverpool
5,0 Bayern Munich
6,8 Juventus
7,3 Paris Saint-Germain
9.0 Chelsea
20,8 Zenit St. Petersburg

4,0 Real Madrid
7,0 Atlético Madrid
8,3 Tottenham Hotspur
10,8 Borussia Dortmund
11,8 Napoli
14,0 Ajax
17,0 Benfica
18,8 Shakhtar Donetsk

16,5 Valencia
17,3 Bayer Leverkusen
17,8 Internazionale
18,3 Olympique Lyon
21,5 Salzburg
23,5 Olympiacos
25,0 Club Brugge
26,3 Dinamo Zagreb

18,0 RB Leipzig
22,0 Atalanta
25,5 Lille
26,5 Galatasaray
27,5 Lokomotiv Moskva
28,0 Genk
29,0 Slavia Praha
30,0 Crvena zvezda

Numbers are the average ranking of each team in UEFA Coefficients, Club ELO, market value and bet odds.

Group of death:

Manchester City
Real Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen
Atalanta


Group of fun

Zenit
Shakhtar/Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb
Slavia Praha/Crvena Zvezda

edit: fixed some errors
Last edited by og2002gr on Thu Aug 29, 2019 19:28, edited 1 time in total.
fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues

http://kassiesa.net/uefa/forum2/viewtop ... 52#p359852
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Firnen wrote:
Witkop1983 wrote:I think UEFA should stop all those restrictions that are in the draws..

Just make sure teams from the same country are not in the same group....... and maybe if you really want to.... just make sure that teams from one country are evenly spread over red and blue groups (without making pairings beforehand of wich clubs should not be in the same colored groups)
TV rights...this is the problem that makes the draw so complicated. UEFA does not want teams with high TV popularity to play in the same day like Barcelona-Real Madrid.
There are indeed other ways for Uefa to ensure that f.ex. Real and Barcelona do not play simultaneously. One is to assign them a different calendar order (home/away match sequence), the other is to make them play at a different time. Just like they do with Real and Atletico. Those tv pairings not only make the draw procedure way more complicated but they also influence the resulting probabilities of different teams to face each other
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og2002gr wrote:Luckometer?
2,5 Manchester City
Again the same bullshit that Manchester Shitty is Europe' strongest team? :sigh:
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"We've never met" mock draw

Liverpool
Shakhtar Donetsk
Dinamo Zagreb
RB Leipzig

Bayern Munchen
Tottenham
Valencia
Atalanta

Chelsea
Borussia Dortmund
Lyon
Crvena Zvezda

Paris Saint-Germain
Atletico Madrid
Internazionale
Slavia Prague

Manchester City
Benfica
Club Brugge
Galatasaray

Zenit
Ajax
Olympiacos
Genk

Barcelona
Napoli
Bayer Leverkusen
Lokomotiv Moscow

Juventus
Real Madrid
RB Salzburg
Lille
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og2002gr wrote:Luckometer?

2,5 Manchester City
2,8 Barcelona
4,3 Liverpool
5,0 Bayern Munich
7,3 Juventus
7,3 Paris Saint-Germain
8,5 Chelsea
20,8 Zenit St. Petersburg

3,5 Real Madrid
7,5 Atlético Madrid
7,5 Tottenham Hotspur
11,3 Borussia Dortmund
11,5 Napoli
14,8 Ajax
17,0 Benfica
18,8 Shakhtar Donetsk

16,5 Valencia
16,8 Bayer Leverkusen
17,8 Internazionale
18,3 Olympique Lyon
22,8 Salzburg
24,8 Olympiacos
25,0 Club Brugge
27,3 Dinamo Zagreb

17,8 RB Leipzig
22,0 Atalanta
25,3 Lokomotiv Moskva
25,5 Genk
25,5 Lille
26,5 Galatasaray
30,0 Slavia Praha
30,0 Crvena zvezda

Numbers are the average ranking of each team in UEFA Coefficients, Club ELO, market value and bet odds.

Group of death:

Manchester City
Real Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen
Atalanta


Group of fun

Zenit
Shakhtar/Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb
Slavia Praha/Crvena Zvezda
Pretty much same thoughts here. Surely Salzburg not the weakest team in pot 3 and Galatasaray not strongest in pot 4. :roll:
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fillow wrote:"We've never met" mock draw

Barcelona
Napoli
Bayer Leverkusen
Lokomotiv Moscow

Juventus
Real Madrid
RB Salzburg
Lille

Chelsea
Borussia Dortmund
Lyon
Crvena Zvezda

Paris Saint-Germain
Atletico Madrid
Internazionale
Slavia Prague

Manchester City
Benfica
Club Brugge
Galatasaray

Zenit
Ajax
Olympiacos
Genk

Barcelona
Napoli
Bayer Leverkusen
Lokomotiv Moscow

Juventus
Real Madrid
RB Salzburg
Lille
Where is Shakhtar? :shock:
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Dragonite wrote:
og2002gr wrote:Luckometer?
2,5 Manchester City
Again the same bullshit that Manchester Shitty is Europe' strongest team? :sigh:
FC Bullshit! :rollfloor:
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bugylibicska wrote: Where is Shakhtar? :shock:
sorry, fixed now. copied wrong columns from Excel
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