Domestics Cups Organisation

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philippe1968
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Domestics Cups Organisation

Post by philippe1968 »

In the same spirit that the topic about "Domestics Leagues Organisation", I propose for every one to present your cup(s) organisation for your country.

France

Only "cup of France". The "cup of league" of 2019/20 was the last edition.
Number of teams indicate for 2019/20 edition

- Préliminary round - Regional level - Number of teams unknow (so long time for collect data) - Not for all regions
- 1st round - Regional level - Number of teams unknow
- 2nd round - Regional level - Number of teams unknow
- 3rd round - Regional level - Enter of 134 teams from National 3 (5th level) - 2146 teams - 1073 winners
- 4th round - Regional level - Enter of 51 teams from National 2 (4th level) - 1124 teams - 562 winners
- 5th round - Regional level - Enter of 18 teams from National (3rd level) - 580 teams - 290 winners
- 6th round - Regional level - 290 teams - 145 winners
- 7th round - Teams split in 10 groups (equal geography and strengh) - Enter of 20 teams from Ligue 2 & 11 teams overseas - 176 teams - 88 winners
- 8th round - Teams split in 6 groups (equal geography and strengh) - 88 teams - 44 winners
- Round of 64 - France level - Enter of 20 teams from Ligue 1 - 64 teams - 32 winners - of course ;-)
- Round of 32
- Round of 16
- Quater-Final
- Semi-Final
- Final - Always at Paris

Total : 15 rounds
Preliminary round is a virtual Round of 32768 (!)
Last few years, around 7000 teams. (record 2012/13 with 7656 teams) -
Maybe the competion with the more players in the world (estimate at 130.000 players participating)

No "seed/unseed" system.
First team draw at home - Inversion in avantage of the lowest if 2 or more levels between the 2 teams.
Number and organisation ot the 3 first round in regional level depend of the number of teams of each région have in the first National level (7th round) - So there are specifics rules for number of rounds and start round for best regional teams.
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Netherlands

Teams entering in different rounds:

Q1
-36 teams from level 4
-24 teams from levels 5 and lower, which have qualified via regional Cups of previous season

Q2
-usually 12 teams from level 3, this season 14 teams because the league wasn't finished
-some teams will get a bye to get to the correct number of teams in R1

R1
-teams from level 1 that didn't qualify for CL-GS or EL-GS
-16 teams from level 2
-usually 4 teams from level 3 that won the league or 1 of the 3 periods in the league, this season 2 teams since the league and the last period weren't finished

R2
-teams from level 1 that qualified for CL-GS or EL-GS

Final is always played at the Feyenoord stadium in Rotterdam
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Slovenia:
Lower league clubs play in 9 Regional Cups.
1st round - 18 Regional Cups finalists + 6 lower placed 1.SNL teams
Round of 16 - 12 winners + 4 European representatives (seeding system)
Quarterfinals - 8 winners (no seeding)
...

Croatia (I already explained that one last time):
32 Winners and/or finalists of Regional Cups play in the preliminary round.
Round of 32 - 16 winners plus 16 highest ranked teams (that do not play Regional Cups), no draw but:
Team ranked 1 plays team ranked 32, team ranked 2 plays team ranked 31...
Round of 16 - Winner of pair 1 against winner of pair 16...
Quarterfinals - 8 winners (draw)
...

Old system was even worse:
There were no draws and Dinamo allways played against the worst possible team untill semi-finals.
Round of 32: Dinamo plays against team ranked 32, Hajduk plays against team ranked 31, Rijeka plays against team ranked 30 etc.
Round of 16: Dinamo plays against team ranked 16, Hajduk plays against team ranked 15, Rijeka plays against team ranked 14 etc.
Quarterfinal: Dinamo plays against team ranked 8, Hajduk plays against team ranked 7, Rijeka plays against team ranked 6 etc.

Ranking is complicated. It is for five years and points are accumualted, so you get 1, 3, 7... or 63 points, depending how far you go.
This is the current ranking of seeded teams:
01. 219 - Rijeka
02. 195 - Dinamo
03. 67 - Lokomotiva
04. 63 - Hajduk
05. 63 - Slaven Belupo
06. 59 - Osijek
07. 43 - Inter Zaprešić
08. 19 - Istra 1961
09. 19 - Šibenik
10. 19 - Split
11. 15 - Vinogradar
12. 13 - Zadar
13. 13 - Zagreb
14. 11 - Gorica
15. 11 - Rudeš
16. 11 - Cibalia
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Germany:

DFB-Pokal:
- 64 teams enter the first of six single-leg KO rounds
- two pots in Round 1
seeded: 18 Bundesliga + best 14 2. Bundesliga teams
unseeded: 24 non-DFL teams via federal cups, play offs + 4 worst 2. Bundesliga + 4 best eligible teams from 4 (pro or amatuer status)
- fakultative amatuer and non-amateur pots for the next rounds except the final
- VAR enters competion in Round 3 (last 16)
- since 1985, the inal is played at the Olympic stadium in Berlin. The popular and universal fan chant "Berlin, Berlin, wir fahren nach Berlin!" was created by fans from then SF winners Bayer Uerdingen 05 in 1985 as well.
- the 24 "amateurs" (professional teams from 3. Liga are eligible) are all 21 federal cup winners or finalists joined by 3 additional clubs from the biggest federal FAs considering the amount of members: Bavaria (BFV), Lower Saxony (NFV) and Westphalia (FLVW)
--> BFV usually rewards the best non-reserve team from Regionalliga Bayern as Bavarian amateur champion, but this season the winners of the league cup earns that ticket
--> NFV organizes two brackets forming the Niedersachsenpokal, both final winners enter the DFB-Pokal
Upper bracket: 3. Liga + Regionalliga Nord
Lower bracket: Oberliga Niedersachsen + 4 regional cup winners from lower divisions
--> FLFW uses a playoff match between the Oberliga championsthe best ranked member from Regionalliga West

The DFL-Supercup has been reestablished in 2010 and played as a single match. The original DFB-Supercup (1987-1996) had been replaced by the DFB-Ligapokal in 1997. That league cup existed untill 2007 (from 2004 on as DFL-Ligapokal) and served as a pre-season competition but was eventually abolished after a lot of criticism and revisions. Only ia few Bundesliga teams took part in these "Supercup plus competions".
The first edition of a "DFB-Ligapokal" in 1972/73 was an unique event and created to fill the gap in the calendar the Olympic Games in Munich caused.
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