UEFA Euro 2024

[Firnen]

Only one of the two League D group winners will have a shot if there are vacant places from League A. In case 14 of the 16 nations from League A are already qualified, the second spot goes for a team from League B. Last Euro, all League D winners had a guaranteed playoff place, with North Macedonia qualifying for the final tournment. They should either allow the second group winner a place in the playoffs in the same situation of the first (if there is another spot, of course) or none of them. Specially considering one of the groups has 4 teams and the other one just 3, which mean that the results with one of the teams from the 4 team group will be ignored to find the "best" group winners.

Interestingly, San Marino is in the group of 3 teams, thus the results of Malta/Estonia against them will count. If it was in the group of 4, the head-to-head comparison of the 2 League D winners would be more "fair". Now, Malta/Estonia are the favourites for "No.1 League D" team in the overall rankings.

[Sagy]

Only one of the two League D group winners will have a shot if there are vacant places from League A. In case 14 of the 16 nations from League A are already qualified, the second spot goes for a team from League B. Last Euro, all League D winners had a guaranteed playoff place, with North Macedonia qualifying for the final tournment. They should either allow the second group winner a place in the playoffs in the same situation of the first (if there is another spot, of course) or none of them. Specially considering one of the groups has 4 teams and the other one just 3, which mean that the results with one of the teams from the 4 team group will be ignored to find the "best" group winners.

Interestingly, San Marino is in the group of 3 teams, thus the results of Malta/Estonia against them will count. If it was in the group of 4, the head-to-head comparison of the 2 League D winners would be more "fair". Now, Malta/Estonia are the favourites for "No.1 League D" team in the overall rankings.

Unless they “cancel” each other (two head to head ties or one win for each)

[amirbachar]

Only one of the two League D group winners will have a shot if there are vacant places from League A. In case 14 of the 16 nations from League A are already qualified, the second spot goes for a team from League B. Last Euro, all League D winners had a guaranteed playoff place, with North Macedonia qualifying for the final tournment. They should either allow the second group winner a place in the playoffs in the same situation of the first (if there is another spot, of course) or none of them. Specially considering one of the groups has 4 teams and the other one just 3, which mean that the results with one of the teams from the 4 team group will be ignored to find the "best" group winners.

Last time group D had 16 teams, this time 7, that's why it no longer makes sense to have a guaranteed place for them.

[As_Contas_do_Título]

Only one of the two League D group winners will have a shot if there are vacant places from League A. In case 14 of the 16 nations from League A are already qualified, the second spot goes for a team from League B. Last Euro, all League D winners had a guaranteed playoff place, with North Macedonia qualifying for the final tournment. They should either allow the second group winner a place in the playoffs in the same situation of the first (if there is another spot, of course) or none of them. Specially considering one of the groups has 4 teams and the other one just 3, which mean that the results with one of the teams from the 4 team group will be ignored to find the "best" group winners.

Last time group D had 16 teams, this time 7, that's why it no longer makes sense to have a guaranteed place for them.

I'm not saying League D should have a guaranteed team in the Euro like last time. I'm just saying that all group winners could have a place in the playoffs. But what really makes no sense is that only one of the two can have this opportunity.

[amirbachar]

Only one of the two League D group winners will have a shot if there are vacant places from League A. In case 14 of the 16 nations from League A are already qualified, the second spot goes for a team from League B. Last Euro, all League D winners had a guaranteed playoff place, with North Macedonia qualifying for the final tournment. They should either allow the second group winner a place in the playoffs in the same situation of the first (if there is another spot, of course) or none of them. Specially considering one of the groups has 4 teams and the other one just 3, which mean that the results with one of the teams from the 4 team group will be ignored to find the "best" group winners.

Last time group D had 16 teams, this time 7, that's why it no longer makes sense to have a guaranteed place for them.

I'm not saying League D should have a guaranteed team in the Euro like last time. I'm just saying that all group winners could have a place in the playoffs. But what really makes no sense is that only one of the two can have this opportunity.

Perhaps you are right

[Sagy]

Only one of the two League D group winners will have a shot if there are vacant places from League A. In case 14 of the 16 nations from League A are already qualified, the second spot goes for a team from League B. Last Euro, all League D winners had a guaranteed playoff place, with North Macedonia qualifying for the final tournment. They should either allow the second group winner a place in the playoffs in the same situation of the first (if there is another spot, of course) or none of them. Specially considering one of the groups has 4 teams and the other one just 3, which mean that the results with one of the teams from the 4 team group will be ignored to find the "best" group winners.

Last time group D had 16 teams, this time 7, that's why it no longer makes sense to have a guaranteed place for them.

I'm not saying League D should have a guaranteed team in the Euro like last time. I'm just saying that all group winners could have a place in the playoffs. But what really makes no sense is that only one of the two can have this opportunity.

Given the new qualifying format and league D having only 7 teams, have an issue with “all group winners could have a place in the playoffs”. Consider the following case, all 16 league A teams qualify, the other qualifiers are from league B but not the group winners (let’s say the 4 second place teams). Path B will be League B winners, Path C will be League C winners, and path A will be 3 (or 2), third place league B teams with one or two on the bottom 10 teams in UEFA. Teams that finish lower in league B will have a much easier path than teams that finished ahead of them. Maybe worse, teams that are in the bottom 10 (maybe even lower) will have an extra chance for the Euros.

[As_Contas_do_Título]

Last time group D had 16 teams, this time 7, that's why it no longer makes sense to have a guaranteed place for them.

I'm not saying League D should have a guaranteed team in the Euro like last time. I'm just saying that all group winners could have a place in the playoffs. But what really makes no sense is that only one of the two can have this opportunity.

Given the new qualifying format and league D having only 7 teams, have an issue with “all group winners could have a place in the playoffs”. Consider the following case, all 16 league A teams qualify, the other qualifiers are from league B but not the group winners (let’s say the 4 second place teams). Path B will be League B winners, Path C will be League C winners, and path A will be 3 (or 2), third place league B teams with one or two on the bottom 10 teams in UEFA. Teams that finish lower in league B will have a much easier path than teams that finished ahead of them. Maybe worse, teams that are in the bottom 10 (maybe even lower) will have an extra chance for the Euros.

"16.03
The UEFA administration conducts a draw to allocate teams to the different play-off paths, starting with UEFA Nations League C, subject to the following conditions:

If four or more teams from a league enter the play-offs, a path of four teams from the league in question must be formed.

A group winner cannot form a path with a team from a higher-ranked league in the overall 2022/23 UEFA Nations League rankings.

Additional conditions including seeding principles may be applied, subject to approval by the UEFA Executive Committee."

As you see, the League D winners wouldn't be paired with the lower League B teams, because a draw would be conducted to define the teams that stay in each of the paths. And taking the example you described, according to the present rules, all third places from League B will qualify for the playoffs, including the one from Russia's former group of 3 teams (20 spots - 15 League A teams excluding Germany = 5 teams from League B already qualified: with 4 + 4 spots for path A+B -1 league D team = 7 spots for path B; 5+7=12). Do you think a team that end last in a League B group shall be rewarded over a group winner from League D?

Unless they “cancel” each other (two head to head ties or one win for each)

Still, I bet that no team from the other group will get more than 8 points after deducting the points obtained with the last place.

[perica]

In such case there will be a draw which four teams from league B will form B path, and which teams will form A path.
Draw will be conducted anyway if no team from League A enters the playoffs and more than 4 teams from league B enter the playoffs.
If at least one group winner from league B and one team from league A enter the playoffs, they cannot be in the same path.

[nogomet]

Germany is pushing UEFA to suspend Belarus from EURO 2024 qualifying draw (9 October).

This was long overdue. Belarus teams had no business participating in this season's club competitions and the Nations League.

[Firnen]

Germany is pushing UEFA to suspend Belarus from EURO 2024 qualifying draw (9 October).

This was long overdue. Belarus teams had no business participating in this season's club competitions and the Nations League.

They made it easier for UEFA by being complete dogshit and losing almost all their ties immediately, but you are right.

[Lorric]

Belarus is in the Futsal WCQ as well. (Group 4.)



And the U Euro qualifying starting next week will see them involved. With them in so many UEFA competitions already, I can see Germany being told no.

[Firnen]

Russia is officially banned from the UEFA Euro 2024 Qualifiers. No word on Belarus, so probably they will take part.

[Korgutt]

Deleted.

[Todor]

Russia is officially banned from the UEFA Euro 2024 Qualifiers. No word on Belarus, so probably they will take part.

Unfortunately it is difficult to find legal ground for banning Belarus as they are not an active side in the war at present. They did their dirty job at the start but since then their teritory hasn't been used for attacks on Ukraine.

[wannabeontop]

Russia is officially banned from the UEFA Euro 2024 Qualifiers. No word on Belarus, so probably they will take part.

Unfortunately it is difficult to find legal ground for banning Belarus as they are not an active side in the war at present. They did their dirty job at the start but since then their teritory hasn't been used for attacks on Ukraine.

There is literally zero legal ground for banning the Russian NT either due to the fact that the principle of collective guilt was abolished years ago.