Italian football season 2022/23

[OlliWender]

I wonder if Juventus actually want to get banned now instead of having to play ECL

[Lubomir25]

I wonder if Juventus actually want to get banned now instead of having to play ECL

Should be banned from football, how many times can one club cheat before they get punished properly

[offside]

is there a chance Juventus will have their UEFA licence revoked due to the financial cheating?

Yes, it depends on UEFA now.

[matt]

I wonder if Juventus actually want to get banned now instead of having to play ECL

That's the real punishment, not getting banned and having to play the ECL

[matt]

Serie A, last verdicts:
- Atalanta and AS Roma qualify for the next EL.
- Juventus qualifies for the next ECL.
- Spareggio between Spezia and Verona to avoid relegation.

''spareggio'' for salvation when? saturday or sunday? place?

Sunday 20:45, tomorrow the place will be announced. Big final of the season on Sunday, with Bari - Cagliari and Verona - Spezia for the last two places of Serie A 2023-24

[Lorric]

Ibrahimovic hangs up the boots:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65806224

[fabiomh]

Ibrahimovic hangs up the boots:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65806224

During his farewell speech, at the end of Milan-Verona, booed by the Verona fans;
Ibra stopped his speech and replied:
"boo, boo, it's your best moment of the year, because you see me".
Roar of joy from the Milan fans.

background: there is a big rivalry between Milan and Verona: Milan lost two scudettos in the last MDs in Verona in 1972-73 and in 1989-90.

[fabiomh]

At the beginning of the season, I would never guess that the final table would be:

1. Napoli
2. Lazio
3. Internazionale
4. AC Milan

without any of Juventus, Internazionale and AC Milan in the top 2.
I think that the last time this happened it was the year of the scudetto of Verona (please correct me if I am wrong).

Not checked, but I feel you are right. Last time was 38 years ago, in 1984-85: 1. Hellas Verona, 2. Torino.

This article https://sempremilan.com/milan-inter-and ... us-1984-85 confirms this.
I always had the impression Serie A is more balanced than this. That's huge. 2 generations of players. And even now I would call that Lazio isn t a worthy 2nd place. Ok nobody was, but at least the others saved some face in Europe.

...

this is the number of titles won in the last 53 seasons (last 30 seasons):
24 - Juventus (15)
10 - Milan (6)
9 - Inter (6)
3 - Napoli (1)
2 - Lazio (1)
2 - Roma (1)
1 - Torino
1 - Verona
1 - Sampdoria

In the last 53 seasons, Juve, Inter and Milan won 82% of scudetti.
In the last 30 seasons they took 90% of the titles.

[offside]

AC Milan: Paolo Maldini and Ricky Massara left their managerial role!

(in Italian) https://www.calciomercato.com/news/mila ... ilan-65211

[bbi]

very disappointed about the Maldini news. This was his team, he brought every player except the homegrown ones. I was really attached to this squad as I've watched them grow very closely. Missed only a handful of games in the last ~4 years.
Obviously he has some faults and wasn't perfect, but he was a guarantee that Milan wants to try to rebecome "football royalty". And looked like the path they were was the correct one even if it took time. Now I have big doubts and afraid they will change the mode of operation.
I am curious if Leao would have just extended had he knew this would happen. Also hopping other players might not wish to force move in the next year now. I've read a lot of interviews in which many of the players mentioned how impressed they were to get a call from Maldini and how he convinced them to join this project.
Also very afraid of a another missed summer transfer period. Last year it started very late because Maldini's contract was extended very late. Players arrived late so there were some missed opportunities. This could happen again if they don't have the new team in place.
Probably the actual news shouldn't be a surprise as Maldini has already expressed some disagreement on how the club should be run and wanted be autonomous and not have to get approval for every sporting decision.
Reports are that Pioli is safe being well seen by the other officials (he also has 2 years of contract, but also Maldini had 1 more year).
Still waiting for some official press release and see what is the plan

[Lyonnais]

WS marks - Final ranking (average of the best 19 performances)


Top 10

8.02 Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (Napoli, FWL, 22, GEO)
7.97 Victor Osimhen (Napoli, FW, 24, NGA)
7.89 Rafael Leao (Milan, AML, 23, POR)
7.87 Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (Lazio, MC, 28, SRB)
7.81 Lautaro Martinez (Inter, FW, 25, ARG)
7.81 Mattia Zaccagni (Lazio, FWL, 27, ITA)
7.66 Felipe Anderson (Lazio, FWR, 30, BRA)
7.55 Teun Koopmeiners (Atalanta, MC, 25, NED)
7.53 Giovanni Di Lorenzo (Napoli, DR, 29, ITA)
7.52 Armand Laurienté (Sassuolo, FWL, 24, FRA)
etc.


Best XI

........... K.Kvaratskhelia (Napoli ) - V.Osimhen (Napoli) - R.Leao (Milan) .............
..... A.Rabiot (Juventus) - S.Milinkovic-Savic (Lazio) - T.Koopmeiners (Atalanta) .....
C.Augusto (Monza) - Danilo (Juventus) - Kim Min-Jae (Napoli) - G.Di Lorenzo (Napoli)
................................... L.Skorupski (Bologna) .........................................


U21 Players

7.21 Destiny Udogie (Udinese, DML, 20, ITA)
7.03 Rasmus Hojlund (Atalanta, FW, 20, DEN)
7.00 Lazar Samardzic (Udinese, MC, 21, GER)
etc.


Best per club

8.02 Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (Napoli, FWL, 22, GEO)
7.87 Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (Lazio, MC, 28, SRB)
7.81 Lautaro Martinez (Inter, FW, 25, ARG)
7.89 Rafael Leao (Milan, AML, 23, POR)
7.55 Teun Koopmeiners (Atalanta, MC, 25, NED)
7.51 Paulo Dybala (Roma, AMC, 29, ARG)
7.52 Adrien Rabiot (Juventus, MC, 28, FRA)
7.33 Lucas Martinez (Fiorentina, DC, 27, ARG)
7.44 Lukasz Skorupski (Bologna, GK, 32, POL)
7.34 Antonio Sanabria (Torino, FW, 27, PAR)
7.51 Carlos Augusto (Monza, DML, 24, BRA)
7.29 Roberto Pereyra (Udinese, DMR, 32, ARG)
7.52 Armand Laurienté (Sassuolo, FWL, 24, FRA)
7.34 Fabiano Parisi (Empoli, DL, 22, ITA)
7.29 Boulaye Dia (Salernitana, FW, 26, SEN)
7.31 Morten Hjulmand (Lecce, MC, 23, DEN)
7.22 Bartlomieij Dragowski (Spezia, GK, 25, POL)
7.23 Lorenzo Motipo (Verona, GK, 27, ITA)
7.24 Marco Carnesecchi (Cremonese, GK, 22, ITA)
7.08 Emil Audero (Sampdoria, GK, 26, ITA)

[Lyonnais]

Keepers


7.44 Lukasz Skorupski (Bologna, GK, 32, POL)
7.39 Michele Di Gregorio (Monza, GK, 25, ITA)
7.34 Ivan Provedel (Lazio, GK, 29, ITA)
7.26 Guglielmo Vicario (Empoli, GK, 26, ITA)
7.24 Marco Carnesecchi (Cremonese, GK, 22, ITA)
etc.


Lukasz SKORUPSKI
GK, 32, Bologna & Poland (8 caps)
Career: Radzionkow - Gronik Zabrze - Roma - (Empoli) - Bologna (2018)

[Lyonnais]

Defenders Centre


7.45 Danilo (Juventus, DC, 31, BRA)
7.42 Kim Min-Jae (Napoli, DC, 26, KRS)
7.33 Lucas Martinez (Fiorentina, DC, 27, ARG)
7.32 Ibanez (Roma, DC, 24, BRA)
7.30 Armando Izzo (Monza, DC, 31, ITA)
7.27 Jaka Bijol (Udinese, DC, 24, SLO)
7.26 Bremer (Juventus, DC, 26, BRA)
7.21 Fikayo Tomori (Milan, DC, 25, ENG)
7.21 Chris Smalling (Roma, DC, 33, ENG)
7.21 Alessio Romagnoli (Lazio, DC, 28, ITA)
etc.


DANILO
DC, 31, Juventus & Brazil (49 caps)
Career: Atletico Mineiro - Santos - Porto - Real Madrid - Manchester City - Juventus (2019)
Titles:
- Winner of the Copa Libertadores 2011
- Winner of the Champions League 2016 & 2017
- Champion of Portugal 2012 & 2013
- Champion of Spain 2017
- Champion of England 2018 & 2019
- Champion of Italy 2020
- Winner of the FA Cup 2019
- Winner of the Coppa Italia 2021
- Winner of the League Cup 2018 & 2019




Kim MIN-JAE
DC, 26, Napoli & South Korea (49 caps)
Career: Gyeongju - Jeonbuk - Beijing - Fenerbahce - Napoli (2022)
Titles:
- Champion of South Korea 2017 & 2018
- Champion of Italy 2023

[Lyonnais]

Defenders Right


7.53 Giovanni Di Lorenzo (Napoli, DR, 29, ITA)
7.40 Stefan Posch (Bologna, DR, 26, AUT)
7.29 Roberto Pereyra (Udinese, DMR, 32, ARG)
7.22 Juan Cuadrado (Juventus, DMR, 35, COL)
7.17 Patrick Ciurria (Monza, DMR, 28, ITA)
etc.



Giovanni DI LORENZO
DR, 29, Napoli & Italy (27 caps)
Career: Reggina - (Cuneo) - Reggina - Matera - Empoli - Napoli (2019)
Title:
- Winner of the Euro 2020
- Champion of Italy 2023
- Winner of the Coppa Italia 2020

[Lyonnais]

Defenders Left


7.51 Carlos Augusto (Monza, DML, 24, BRA)
7.34 Fabiano Parisi (Empoli, DL, 22, ITA)
7.25 Filip Kostic (Juventus, DML, 30,SRB)
7.24 Cristiano Biraghi (Fiorentina, DL, 30, ITA)
7.21 Federico Dimarco (Inter, DML, 25, ITA)
etc.


Carlos AUGUSTO
DML, 24, Monza & Brazil U20
Career: Corinthians - Monza (2020)