UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Group Stage

[A1IE]

Draw simulator
https://draw.inker.one/#/cl/gs

Draw will be at 18.00 CEST (25-8) in Istanbul.

[Catenaccio]

Would love to see a 'Group of Revenge' for Ajax:

Ajax
Spurs
Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb

[A1IE]

Does anyone know the TV-pairings and does anyone kwow the statistical probabilities to face an opponent?

[Oldelpaso]

Does anyone know the TV-pairings and does anyone kwow the statistical probabilities to face an opponent?

Germany is usually Bayern-Dortmund. Italy is normally Juve-Inter, though I don't know if Milan's return will change that. England varies. Liverpool and Manchester United is the only consistent pair but United aren't in it this year. Last time these teams all qualified it was Liverpool-City and Chelsea-Spurs.

[Club-Mate]

Would love to see a 'Group of Revenge' for Ajax:

Ajax
Spurs
Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb

if you talk about "revenge" I would chose this for Salzburg:
Real
Juventus
Salzburg
Maccabi Haifa
Maccabi could be the "revenge team" for Salzburg as they dropped out in CL quali in 2009. And even for Israeli fans too. Salzburg would always be their first choice in drawings. Maybe they like to visit this city too much. For Salzburg it looks like much more probable to reach 3rd place than better. Participation in spring is very desired and was achieved all the years before. Olympique Marseille, Rangers or even Celtic and Brugge could endanger this goal most.

[Todor]

Does anyone know the TV-pairings and does anyone kwow the statistical probabilities to face an opponent?

I played with the UEFA simulator and I think the TV pairings are:

Liverpool: Man City and Chelsea:Tottenham
Real:Barca and Athletico:Sevilla
Bayern:Dortmund and Leipzig:Eintracht
Milan:Inter and Juve:Napoli
Celtic:Rangers
Porto:Benfica
PSG:OM

Leipzig:Real and Leipzig:Man City are the likeliest pair from the first two pots.

[nogomet]

Viktoria Plzen will draw Shakhtar.

[Juliusz]

TV pairings

A Real Madrid & Barcelona
B Frankfurt & Leipzig
C Man City & Liverpool
D AC Milan & Napoli
E Bayern & Dortmund
F Paris & Marseille
G Porto & Benfica
H Chelsea & Tottenham
I Juventus & Inter
J Atlético de Madrid & Sevilla
K Rangers & Celtic

[Catenaccio]

You could argue that there is some sort of 50/50 split in each pot in terms of 'to avoid' and 'to get':

Pot 1:

Real Madrid / Man City / PSG / Bayern
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Milan / Porto / Ajax / Frankfurt

Pot 2:

Liverpool / Chelsea / Barcelona / Juventus
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Atletico / Sevilla / Spurs / Leipzig

Pot 3:

Dortmund / Napoli / Inter / Benfica
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Shakhtar / Salzburg/ Sporting / Leverkusen

Pot 4:

Rangers / Marseille / Celtic / Brugge
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Copenhagen / Dinamo Zagreb / M. Haifa / V. Plzen

Hope to see as many teams from each half of these splits to be drawn together to get the most balanced games in the groups.

[barracuda]

So the draw simulator did not use the right TV-pairings for Italy.

[anty1975]

You could argue that there is some sort of 50/50 split in each pot in terms of 'to avoid' and 'to get':

Pot 1:

Real Madrid / Man City / PSG / Bayern
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Milan / Porto / Ajax / Frankfurt

Pot 2:

Liverpool / Chelsea / Barcelona / Juventus
----------------------------------------------------
Atletico / Sevilla / Spurs / Leipzig

Pot 3:

Dortmund / Napoli / Inter / Benfica
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Shakhtar / Salzburg/ Sporting / Leverkusen

Pot 4:

Rangers / Marseille / Celtic / Brugge
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Copenhagen / Dinamo Zagreb / M. Haifa / V. Plzen

Hope to see as many teams from each half of these splits to be drawn together to get the most balanced games in the groups.

Come on, Spurs are miles better than current sh*t Juventus team. For me Juventus is a team to get from pot 2

[Lilywhite]

You could argue that there is some sort of 50/50 split in each pot in terms of 'to avoid' and 'to get':

Pot 1:

Real Madrid / Man City / PSG / Bayern
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Milan / Porto / Ajax / Frankfurt

Pot 2:

Liverpool / Chelsea / Barcelona / Juventus
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Atletico / Sevilla / Spurs / Leipzig

Pot 3:

Dortmund / Napoli / Inter / Benfica
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Shakhtar / Salzburg/ Sporting / Leverkusen

Pot 4:

Rangers / Marseille / Celtic / Brugge
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Copenhagen / Dinamo Zagreb / M. Haifa / V. Plzen

Hope to see as many teams from each half of these splits to be drawn together to get the most balanced games in the groups.

Mostly agree, but would probably swap Chelsea and Atletico in P2. Chelsea are a little weaker than they are sometimes, and Atletico are always an absolute nightmare to play against in Europe.

[FEPG]

So the draw simulator did not use the right TV-pairings for Italy.

It's been fixed (thanks to @Juliusz for the pairings). Sadly, I don't have inside information as I don't work in UEFA.

[barracuda]

So the draw simulator did not use the right TV-pairings for Italy.

It's been fixed. Sadly, I don't have inside information as I don't work in UEFA.

No problem, thank you for your work! I use it every year and love it.

[babaluj1]

Would love to see a 'Group of Revenge' for Ajax:

Ajax
Spurs
Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb

Great group, I like it too. I would love to see those matches. I think Dinamo would do well in this group!