2022/2023 CL (and UYL) Group C: Bayern - Barcelona - Inter - Plzen

[bugylibicska]

What if they don't beat Inter? But wouldn't that still be enough?

Probably not. Then their fate will be out of their hands even by beating Bayern.

I was joking about the "no ifs or buts" you mentioned bugy! You are still "not fluent in emoji language"!

So, what's the meaning of this grinning green face?

[seso]

So, what's the meaning of this grinning green face?

That it was a joke [at least that's how I use it]!

[bugylibicska]

So, what's the meaning of this grinning green face?

That it was a joke [at least that's how I use it]!

I see. Interesting. It seems I'm not the only one who had no clue, judging by the not so sporadic use of it by many users in very contradictory circumstances.

[seso]

I see. Interesting. It seems I'm not the only one who had no clue, judging by the not so sporadic use of it by many users in very contradictory circumstances.

Oly vs Qarabag today bugy!!

[bugylibicska]

I see. Interesting. It seems I'm not the only one who had no clue, judging by the not so sporadic use of it by many users in very contradictory circumstances.

Oly vs Qarabag today bugy!!

Yes, I know. I'll watch Zvezda - Fradi then undecided, maybe Oly - Qarabag?

[Dragonite]

UYL:


Congratulations Plzen!


Their win in Germany interrupted a winless streak of 6 UYL matches (Real Madrid x2, CSKA Moskva, Roma, Barcelona and Inter), and prevented them from equaling the longest winless streak in their UYL history.

Inter 1-6 Barcelona was the biggest win in Barcelona's UYL history, above a 5-0 win vs Olympiacos in 2017.

It was also the biggest defeat in Inter's UYL history, above 0-3 vs Real Madrid in 2020 and 1-4 vs Slavia Praha in 2019.


CL:


Congratulations Inter!


This was their 2nd win against Barcelona in 11 CL matches, the first was in the 2009/2010 semifinal when Inter won the CL. Is this a sign that this season too will culminate with Inter winning the CL?

It's still too early to say that.

It's also too early to say if Barcelona is any better compared to last season. So far they're getting the same results. Losing against Bayern, winning the home match against the pot 4 opponent, and losing away against the pot 3 opponent.

It will be humiliating for them if after spending 158M€ in reinforcements they end up exactly in the same place.

[BurningStorm]

Barca are out. Inter only need the win at home against Plzen and they'll get it. And Bayern also have something to play for in Camp Nou: they need a win to secure 1st place.

Financially another disaster for the Catalans. It looked like they went all-in with this squad.

[Todor]

Barca are out. Inter only need the win at home against Plzen and they'll get it. And Bayern also have something to play for in Camp Nou: they need a win to secure 1st place.

Financially another disaster for the Catalans. It looked like they went all-in with this squad.

Bad luck. They got a monstrous Pot 1 and a very strong Pot 3 teams. Move them to another group and they'd probably reach the round of 16. But when you gamble you should take into consideration the possibility of failure.

[Dragonite]

Barca are out. Inter only need the win at home against Plzen and they'll get it. And Bayern also have something to play for in Camp Nou: they need a win to secure 1st place.

Financially another disaster for the Catalans. It looked like they went all-in with this squad.

Bad luck. They got a monstrous Pot 1 and a very strong Pot 3 teams. Move them to another group and they'd probably reach the round of 16. But when you gamble you should take into consideration the possibility of failure.

Barcelona never needed "luck", they'd advance regardless of the group, who needed "luck" was (nearly) everyone else to avoid Barcelona. And advancing from the group was never their goal, their goal is always go win the CL.

Barcelona isn't Sporting or LOSC or Salzburg.

[babaluj1]

I feel sorry for Victoria, she fell into a cage with lions! Fantastic performance yesterday between Barca and Inter, it's a real shame that someone has to drop out at such an early stage. I haven't watched such a good and exciting match for a long time!

[Dragonite]

UYL:


Congratulations Barcelona!


They progressed from the UYL group stages once again, after two failures in 2019/2020 and 2021/2022.

In these two infamous seasons they lost 9 times in 12 matches, including twice against Inter in 2019, aggregate score 0-5.

This time they defeated Inter twice, aggregate score 8-1, so it seems that at least Barcelona's academy is recovering the excellence that it used to have (can't say the same about their senior team).


Inter can qualify in round 5 if they win in Czech Republic and Bayern doesn't win in Spain.
Plzen can also qualify in round 5 if they defeat Inter by four goals difference and Bayern doesn't win in Spain.
Bayern will be eliminated in round 5 if they lose and there's a winner in Plzen vs Inter, or if they draw and Plzen wins.


CL:


Congratulations Bayern!


They reached the CL last 16 for the 15th season in a row. Players come and go, managers come and go, but Bayern remains awesome.

This season without Lewandowski they're scoring fewer goals than last season with him (13 now and 17 before after round 4), but they're still winning games comfortably.

Meanwhile Barcelona this season with Lewandowski is scoring more goals than last season without him (8 now and 2 before), but despite that they're getting worse results (4 points now and 7 points after round 4 last season).


Inter can reach the CL last 16 if in round 5 they win against Plzen, or with a draw too if Barcelona doesn't win against Bayern, or even with a defeat if Barcelona loses against Bayern.
Plzen can't lose in Italy otherwise they'll be last placed for sure, they need at least a draw in Italy combined with Bayern winning in Spain, or preferably a win in Italy combined with Bayern not losing in Spain, to then get the third place in round 6 with a win against Barcelona.

[bugylibicska]

To win the group: no odds for qualifying.

Bayern 1.05
Inter 9.00

Barcelona couldn't beat Inter at home and almost certainly end up in the EL - again! Not a shock, but a surprise nevertheless.

Bayern 12
Inter 7
Barcelona 4
Plzen 0

Next: Inter - Plzen, Barcelona - Bayern.

[bugylibicska]

All is clear, Bayern walkover and Barcelona disgrace.

Bayern 15
Inter 10
Barcelona 4
Plzen 0

Next: Bayern - Inter, Plzen - Barcelona.

[Dragonite]

UYL:


Congratulations Inter!


They progressed from the group stage for the third season in a row.

The only thing left to decide in this group is who will finish 3rd and 4th, but in the UYL 3rd place doesn't give a second chance in another competition.

For what is worth, Plzen will keep the third spot if they win or if Bayern doesn't win. And Bayern will get the third spot if they win and Plzen doesn't win.

Bayern also must win to avoid spending an entire UYL season without a win. Last season they were in a similar situation, bottom of their group without a single win, and they won their round 6 match. Let's see if they'll do it again this season.


CL:


Congratulations Inter!


They qualified to the CL last 16 for the second season in a row. Simone Inzaghi succeeded twice, while before his arrival his predecessors failed thrice (Spalletti and then Conte twice). And right before joining Inter, Simone Inzaghi did it for Lazio too, so in his case is CL last 16 for the third season in a row!

Their 4-0 win against Plzen was the biggest win in their CL history alongside other three: 5-1 vs Valencia in 2004, 4-0 vs Artmedia Bratislava in 2005, and 4-0 vs Werder Bremen in 2010.


And let's congratulate Barcelona too!


They're not good enough to progress from CL groups anymore, but they overwintered for the 24th season in a row. Only Real Madrid has been doing this for longer.

The last time that Barcelona couldn't overwinter was last century, in 1998/1999, when they finished third in a CL group with Bayern, Manchester United and Brondby, and back then, unlike now, the third place wasn't enough to get a second chance in another competition (not even the second place was, only the best two second placed teams progressed alongside the six group winners).


The Plzen vs Barcelona match next week will be interesting.

Barcelona can't lose or they'll be the worst ever Barcelona in CL history. Worst ever was 1997/1998 with 5 points and a -7 GD in a group with Newcastle, PSV and Dynamo Kyiv.

Plzen can't lose to interrupt their losing streak of 5 CL matches, currently the longest in their CL history alongside another from 2013 (Manchester City, CSKA Moskva, Bayern x2 and Manchester City), and must win to avoid reaching a losing streak of 6 CL matches, which would match the longest in their history (draw against Milan in 2011 followed by the losing streak from 2013).

Even if Plzen wins it will be the first time that they finish bottom of their CL group.

[Bobyshka]

How Viktoria Plzen is last in her group and she is not out of the comptition? (by the Kassiessa tables)?