2023/24 UEFA club season (Champions League, Europa League, Europa Conference League): List of qualified teams

including formats, draws, seedings, etc.
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Osasuna's ban means Bilbao replace them, and push Plzen in an unseeded position in ECLPO.

Edit: Bilbao is also unseeded after all.
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Firnen wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 18:05 Osasuna's ban means Bilbao replace them, and push Plzen in an unseeded position in ECLPO.

No, Athletic would also be unseeded. No European football for them in the last five seasons.
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matt wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 17:58 From Osasuna's official website: "Comunicado sobre la recomendacion de los inspectores de la UEFA de no admitir la inscripcion del club en la Conference League 2023-2024"

https://www.osasuna.es/noticia/comunica ... ague-23-24


"Strong with the weak and weak with the strong, UEFA courts have not wanted to take into account that it was the Spanish courts themselves who have literally declared that Osasuna has been the victim of the diversion of money carried out by some of its former directors behind the back of the highest governing body of the entity".
"Statement in response to the attack of the Spanish football federation towards Osasuna"


https://www.osasuna.es/noticia/comunica ... -a-osasuna


First a tough statement against UEFA (that had a big eco mediatically), later a tough statement against the Spanish federation. This club is not messing around. Respect to Osasuna for not accepting passively their fate.
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Has the Osasuna ban been fully confirmed, @bert.kassies? I see that you have given Athletic Club 2.500 points for the 23/24 season.
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According to L'Equipe, UEFA postponed their decision to the end of next week about the participation of Toulouse in the ELGS. (Toulouse and AC Milan are owned by RedBird Capital Partners)

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Article ... ne/1405480
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Osasuna have, unsurprisingly, appealed against the decision to ban them from the UECL
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European debutants season 2023-24

Adana Demirspor
Arsenal Tivat
Brighton & Hove Albion
CSKA 1948 Sofia
Dukagjini Klina
Egnatia Rrogozhinë
Farul Constanța <2021>
FK Auda
Hegelmann Litauen
Pen-y-Bont
Sabah
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The UEFA Appeals Committee has made today the decision to leave Club Atlético Osasuna out of the 2023-2024 Conference League. The members of the UEFA Appeals Committee have not taken into account the allegations presented by the entity last Friday and have reaffirmed the initial opinion of the inspectors of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Committee. The reasons why the Appeals Committee has decided to exclude Osasuna will be transferred to the entity in the coming days.
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I hope Osasuna can win at TAS, because UEFA rules are really strict on this matter. The facts happened 10 years ago and the Spanish tribunals ruled that Osasuna is the victim of actions committed by individuals.
The new board cleared this mess and a decade later the facts incriminated the club is punished, you feel for them.

On the other hand i also understand those that say "match fixing must always be punished". Maybe UEFA regulations should allow for a time-limit (passed that, the punishment expire) in cases like this, when the board have changed and all the players too.
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Which is the usual punishment of UEFA at such cases ? Is it 1 year ban? Is it more? Is punishment applied to the club only if the club is qualified at a competition?
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matt wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 21:19 I hope Osasuna can win at TAS, because UEFA rules are really strict on this matter. The facts happened 10 years ago and the Spanish tribunals ruled that Osasuna is the victim of actions committed by individuals.
The new board cleared this mess and a decade later the facts incriminated the club is punished, you feel for them.

On the other hand i also understand those that say "match fixing must always be punished". Maybe UEFA regulations should allow for a time-limit (passed that, the punishment expire) in cases like this, when the board have changed and all the players too.
Yes, but the rules only apply here because it concerns Osasuna.

UEFA won't dare to exclude Barcelona or Juventus, even if they cheat.
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bjkman1903 wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 22:46
UEFA won't dare to exclude Barcelona or Juventus, even if they cheat.
Well, they are probably going to exclude Juventus, but from the ECL, so not really a big deal for them.
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It is always a big deal to be out of Europe; part of the financial distribution is based on the 10-year co-efficient while Roma made around EUR 40m from winning the 2022 ECL.
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eye wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 21:45 Which is the usual punishment of UEFA at such cases ? Is it 1 year ban? Is it more? Is punishment applied to the club only if the club is qualified at a competition?
Yes, the usual punishment is one year ban. The ban is triggered whenever a club qualifies for Europe. This season we already have three clubs banned because of this rule: Isloch (Belarus), Virtus (San Marino), and Osasuna (Spain).

https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regulation ... ure-Online

4.02

If, on the basis of all the factual circumstances and information available to UEFA, UEFA concludes to its comfortable satisfaction that a club has been directly and/or indirectly involved, since the entry into force of Article 50(3) of the UEFA Statutes, i.e. 27 April 2007, in any activity aimed at arranging or influencing the outcome of a match at national or international level, UEFA will declare such club ineligible to participate in the competition. Such ineligibility is effective only for one football season. When taking its decision, UEFA can rely on, but is not bound by, a decision of a national or international sporting body, arbitral tribunal or state court. UEFA can refrain from declaring a club ineligible to participate in the competition if UEFA is comfortably satisfied that the impact of a decision taken in connection with the same factual circumstances by a national or international sporting body, arbitral tribunal or state court has already had the effect of preventing that club from participating in a UEFA club competition.
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