EL matchday 5

[bugylibicska]

Odds for the 5th round:

AEK Larnaca v Dynamo Kiev 3.20 3.30 2.25
Fenerbahce v Rennes 2.50 3.40 2.75
Lazio v Midtjylland 1.60 4.20 5.00
Ludogorets v Real Betis 3.20 3.50 2.15
Malmo v Union St Gilloise 3.20 3.40 2.20
Union Berlin v Braga 1.83 3.50 4.33
Zurich v Bodo/Glimt 3.30 3.60 2.10
Ferencvaros v Monaco 3.60 3.60 2.00
Freiburg v Olympiacos 1.53 4.20 6.00
HJK Helsinki v Roma 9.00 4.80 1.35
Man Utd v Sheriff Tiraspol 1.12 8.00 23.00
Nantes v Qarabag 2.20 3.50 3.10
Omonia Nicosia v Real Sociedad 7.00 4.50 1.44
Red Star Belgrade v Trabzonspor 2.20 3.50 3.10
Sturm Graz v Feyenoord 3.40 3.75 2.00

[bugylibicska]

Outright:

Arsenal 4.50
MU 6.00
Betis 17.00
Roma, Real Sociedad 21.00
Freiburg 26.00
Lazio, PSV 29.00
Union Berlin 41.00
Fenerbahce 51.00
Braga, Feyenoord, Rennes, Monaco 67.00
Union St.Gilloise, Trabzonspor 101.00
Crvena zvezda 126.00
Bodo, Nantes, Sturm Graz, Midtjylland 151.00
Fradi, Ludogorets 201.00
Sheriff, AEK Larnaca, Qarabag 251.00
Olympiakos, HJK Helsinki 1001.00

[Firnen]

Great odds for AEK Larnaca, Bodo Glimt and Qarabag in MD5.

[Todor]

Scenarios for MD5:

Group A:
Arsenal:PSV PSV:Arsenal Zurich:Bodo
Arsenal qualify with a draw and win the group with 4 points from the two matches with PSV.
PSV qualify with one victory
Bodo secure 3rd with a draw.

Group B:
AEK:Dynamo Fenerbahce:Rennes
Fener and Rennes finish 1st with a win
AEK secure 3rd with a draw

Group C:
Ludogorets:Betis HJK:Roma
Betis win the group with a draw
Ludogorets qualify if they win and Roma don’t, or if they draw and Roma lose
Roma secure 3rd with a draw

Group D:
Union Berlin:Braga Malmo:Union SG
Union SG top the group with a win, or with a draw if the other Union and Braga draw as well
Braga qualify with a win

Group E:
Omonia:Real Sociedad Man Uth:Sheriff
Real will win the group if they do better than Man Utd
Man Utd qualify with a win, draw or a one-goal margin loss
Sheriff secures 3rd if they do better than Omonia

Group F:
Nothing can be decided here with all teams on 5 points

Group G:
Nantes:Qarabaq Freiburg:Oly
Freiburg win the group with a victory or if Qarabaq don’t win
Qarabaq qualify with a draw
Nantes secures 3rd and put Oly out of their misery with a win, if Oly don’t win

Group H:
Fradi:Monaco Zvezda:Trabzonspor
Fradi qualify with a draw and win the group with a victory if Trabzonspor don’t win and a draw if Zvezda beat Tranbzon
Trabzon qualify with a win if Fradi also win and secure 3rd with a draw
Monaco secure 3rd with a win if Zvezda don’t win or with a draw if Trabzon win.

[bugylibicska]

Odds for the 5th round:

AEK Larnaca v Dynamo Kiev 3.20 3.30 2.25
Fenerbahce v Rennes 2.50 3.40 2.75
Lazio v Midtjylland 1.60 4.20 5.00
Ludogorets v Real Betis 3.20 3.50 2.15
Malmo v Union St Gilloise 3.20 3.40 2.20
Union Berlin v Braga 1.83 3.50 4.33
Zurich v Bodo/Glimt 3.30 3.60 2.10
Ferencvaros v Monaco 3.60 3.60 2.00
Freiburg v Olympiacos 1.53 4.20 6.00
HJK Helsinki v Roma 9.00 4.80 1.35
Man Utd v Sheriff Tiraspol 1.12 8.00 23.00
Nantes v Qarabag 2.20 3.50 3.10
Omonia Nicosia v Real Sociedad 7.00 4.50 1.44
Red Star Belgrade v Trabzonspor 2.20 3.50 3.10
Sturm Graz v Feyenoord 3.40 3.75 2.00

PSV Eindhoven v Arsenal 2.80 3.80 2.25

[Lorric]

Lennon got sacked at Omonia:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63304845

Seems harsh. The guy won a trophy and took Omonia through to the ELGS, beating Gent in both legs. It seems league results aren't seen as good enough, but he was perfect in KO ties. I would have thought the battling performances against Manchester United would have gone in his favour though. It seems odd to sack him after those.

[Firnen]

Lennon got sacked at Omonia:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63304845

Seems harsh. The guy won a trophy and took Omonia through to the ELGS, beating Gent in both legs. It seems league results aren't seen as good enough, but he was perfect in KO ties. I would have thought the battling performances against Manchester United would have gone in his favour though. It seems odd to sack him after those.

You do not surivive in a big club in Cyprus if you are 8 points (!) behind 1st place in October. Coaches have been sacked for much less.

[Lorric]

Lennon got sacked at Omonia:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63304845

Seems harsh. The guy won a trophy and took Omonia through to the ELGS, beating Gent in both legs. It seems league results aren't seen as good enough, but he was perfect in KO ties. I would have thought the battling performances against Manchester United would have gone in his favour though. It seems odd to sack him after those.

You do not surivive in a big club in Cyprus if you are 8 points (!) behind 1st place in October. Coaches have been sacked for much less.

But they have a game in hand, so it could be just 5. It's 6 games into the season, he beat Gent twice and was giving United real problems and other teams weren't having to juggle Europe and league games.

Do you think they were right to sack him?

EDIT: Though it says in the article he lost to Nea, and that's the other team with a game in hand in the table, so I guess that table hasn't been updated yet?

[Witkop1983]

Group F: If two teams that face eachoter in the last round both win on matchday 5 they are assured of at least ECL after the winter.
If one team wins and the other match is a draw, the winning team is assured of at least ECL.

[Dragonite]

Lennon got sacked at Omonia:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63304845

Seems harsh. The guy won a trophy and took Omonia through to the ELGS, beating Gent in both legs. It seems league results aren't seen as good enough, but he was perfect in KO ties. I would have thought the battling performances against Manchester United would have gone in his favour though. It seems odd to sack him after those.

Omonoia is the second worst team in EL, 0-0-4 and -6 GD.

The worst is Zürich with 0-0-4 and -11 GD.

Zürich had Franco Foda in charge for rounds 1 and 2, Genesio Colatrella for round 3 and Bo Henriksen for round 4.

Being fired for losing 4 consecutive EL matches isn't harsh. If he can't collect points perhaps his replacement will.

[Lorric]

Lennon got sacked at Omonia:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63304845

Seems harsh. The guy won a trophy and took Omonia through to the ELGS, beating Gent in both legs. It seems league results aren't seen as good enough, but he was perfect in KO ties. I would have thought the battling performances against Manchester United would have gone in his favour though. It seems odd to sack him after those.

Omonoia is the second worst team in EL, 0-0-4 and -6 GD.

The worst is Zürich with 0-0-4 and -11 GD.

Zürich had Franco Foda in charge for rounds 1 and 2, Genesio Colatrella for round 3 and Bo Henriksen for round 4.

Being fired for losing 4 consecutive EL matches isn't harsh. If he can't collect points perhaps his replacement will.

He's got two teams from the top two leagues in his group! He's already knocked out a seeded team to get here and every team in the group is higher seeded!

[Dragonite]

He's got two teams from the top two leagues in his group! He's already knocked out a seeded team to get here and every team in the group is higher seeded!

Are you saying that all pot 4 teams are doomed to 0-0-6's?

The nationality of their opponents is irrelevant. Defeats don't become "acceptable" because the opponent is from England or Spain.

[matt]

Lennon got sacked at Omonia:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63304845

Seems harsh. The guy won a trophy and took Omonia through to the ELGS, beating Gent in both legs. It seems league results aren't seen as good enough, but he was perfect in KO ties. I would have thought the battling performances against Manchester United would have gone in his favour though. It seems odd to sack him after those.

Omonoia is the second worst team in EL, 0-0-4 and -6 GD.

The worst is Zürich with 0-0-4 and -11 GD.

Zürich had Franco Foda in charge for rounds 1 and 2, Genesio Colatrella for round 3 and Bo Henriksen for round 4.

Being fired for losing 4 consecutive EL matches isn't harsh. If he can't collect points perhaps his replacement will.

He's got two teams from the top two leagues in his group! He's already knocked out a seeded team to get here and every team in the group is higher seeded!

Yes, surely he wasn't fired for losing 4 games in the EL in a tough group.

[Lorric]

Omonoia is the second worst team in EL, 0-0-4 and -6 GD.

The worst is Zürich with 0-0-4 and -11 GD.

Zürich had Franco Foda in charge for rounds 1 and 2, Genesio Colatrella for round 3 and Bo Henriksen for round 4.

Being fired for losing 4 consecutive EL matches isn't harsh. If he can't collect points perhaps his replacement will.

He's got two teams from the top two leagues in his group! He's already knocked out a seeded team to get here and every team in the group is higher seeded!

Yes, surely he wasn't fired for losing 4 games in the EL in a tough group.

Yes, it was for league performance. But dragonite criticises him for EL, but only one team has been able to get anything from a team from the top 2 leagues in the EL. Real Sociedad have been perfect in this group, so have United when not playing the former. Arsenal have been perfect. Real Betis are W3 D1.

[Dragonite]

I thought about adding the two UYL defeats against Crvena Zvezda to the list, but those aren't Lennon's fault.