2024 U19 Euro - Northern Ireland

[Jackson Harrison]

@amenina - so eliminated?

No, Slovenia and Bulgaria who currently appear 3rd in their groups with 2 points above England can still finish 2nd with a win if there is a winner in the other game of their group. The loser of that game will be 3rd with 1 point.

So we can still go through realistically?

[TommyChat]

@amenina - so eliminated?

No, Slovenia and Bulgaria who currently appear 3rd in their groups with 2 points above England can still finish 2nd with a win if there is a winner in the other game of their group. The loser of that game will be 3rd with 1 point.

So we can still go through realistically?

Technically yes, but in Scotland vs Serbia and Ireland vs Belgium England needs a winner but in both matches with a draw both teams qualify.

[Jackson Harrison]

No, Slovenia and Bulgaria who currently appear 3rd in their groups with 2 points above England can still finish 2nd with a win if there is a winner in the other game of their group. The loser of that game will be 3rd with 1 point.

So we can still go through realistically?

Technically yes, but in Scotland vs Serbia and Ireland vs Belgium England needs a winner but in both matches with a draw both teams qualify.

So slim chances?

[Sagy]

No, Slovenia and Bulgaria who currently appear 3rd in their groups with 2 points above England can still finish 2nd with a win if there is a winner in the other game of their group. The loser of that game will be 3rd with 1 point.

So we can still go through realistically?

Technically yes, but in Scotland vs Serbia and Ireland vs Belgium England needs a winner but in both matches with a draw both teams qualify.

Are you sure?
With a ties, Serbia and Ireland can still finish 3rd in the group and if both happen one of them might not qualify. Am I missing some tiebreaker or something else?

[TommyChat]

So we can still go through realistically?

Technically yes, but in Scotland vs Serbia and Ireland vs Belgium England needs a winner but in both matches with a draw both teams qualify.

Are you sure?
With a ties, Serbia and Ireland can still finish 3rd in the group and if both happen one of them might not qualify. Am I missing some tiebreaker or something else?

With a 2-2 draw they are 2nd. Goals scored in h2h games is above total goal difference.

[amenina]

@amenina - so eliminated?

The short answer is that England are neither certain of advancing to the elite round, nor certain of elimination. All will be decided based on results of today, more specifically results of Groups 3, 4, 7, 8, and 13, as it is still possible for the third-placed teams in these groups to obtain 2 or more points in their matches against the top two.

[amenina]

What is the more embarrassing result?

Sweden 0-0 Liechtenstein in Group 4 matchday 2?

Or Andorra 2-1 Bulgaria in Group 3 matchday 3?

And both Sweden and Bulgaria are playing at home.

Looks like their U19 teams are as bad as their senior teams...

[TommyChat]

@amenina - so eliminated?

The short answer is that England are neither certain of advancing to the elite round, nor certain of elimination. All will be decided based on results of today, more specifically results of Groups 3, 4, 7, 8, and 13, as it is still possible for the third-placed teams in these groups to obtain 2 or more points in their matches against the top two.

Greece is 3rd with 3 points but all of them against 2nd Lithuania

[amenina]

@amenina - so eliminated?

The short answer is that England are neither certain of advancing to the elite round, nor certain of elimination. All will be decided based on results of today, more specifically results of Groups 3, 4, 7, 8, and 13, as it is still possible for the third-placed teams in these groups to obtain 2 or more points in their matches against the top two.

Greece is 3rd with 3 points but all of them against 2nd Lithuania

Sorry, @Jackson Harrison England have been eliminated!

[Jackson Harrison]

The short answer is that England are neither certain of advancing to the elite round, nor certain of elimination. All will be decided based on results of today, more specifically results of Groups 3, 4, 7, 8, and 13, as it is still possible for the third-placed teams in these groups to obtain 2 or more points in their matches against the top two.

Greece is 3rd with 3 points but all of them against 2nd Lithuania

Sorry, @Jackson Harrison England have been eliminated!

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And from 2025 World Cup! We'd better bid to host now!

[Sagy]

Technically yes, but in Scotland vs Serbia and Ireland vs Belgium England needs a winner but in both matches with a draw both teams qualify.

Are you sure?
With a ties, Serbia and Ireland can still finish 3rd in the group and if both happen one of them might not qualify. Am I missing some tiebreaker or something else?

With a 2-2 draw they are 2nd. Goals scored in h2h games is above total goal difference.

Agreed. I didn’t say that they can’t both qualify. I said that with ties, they can (not will) finish 3rd and if they do, they might miss on qualifying. The original statement was that if they tie, they are guaranteed to qualify.

[amenina]

The 2023/24 UEFA European Under-19 Championship qualifying round is complete with the elite round draw at 10:30 CET on 7 December.

Group 1 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Denmark, France (hosts)
Third place: Iceland
Also in group: Estonia

Group 2
Through to elite round: Norway, Latvia (hosts)
Third place: Hungary
Also in group: Gibraltar

Group 3 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Scotland, Serbia
Third place: Andorra
Also in group: Bulgaria (hosts)

Group 4 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Switzerland, Italy (holders)
Third place: Sweden (hosts)
Also in group: Liechtenstein

Group 5
Through to elite round: Germany, North Macedonia
Third place: Poland (hosts)
Also in group: Kazakhstan

Group 6 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Spain, Georgia (hosts)
Third place: Cyprus
Also in group: Moldova

Group 7 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Ukraine, Kosovo
Third place: Slovakia
Also in group: Malta (hosts)

Group 8 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Türkiye (hosts), Lithuania
Third place: Greece
Also in group: Belarus

Group 9 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Israel, Croatia (hosts)
Third place: Faroe Islands
Also in group: Armenia

Group 10
Through to elite round: Czechia (hosts), Romania
Third place: Finland
Also in group: San Marino

Group 11 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Netherlands, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Third place: Luxembourg (hosts)
Also in group: Azerbaijan

Group 12
Through to elite round: Austria, Montenegro (hosts)
Third place: England
Also in group: Wales

Group 13 (completed today)
Through to elite round: Belgium, Slovenia
Third place: Republic of Ireland
Also in group: Albania (hosts)

Ranking of third-placed teams, best with records against top two advance to elite round
1. Greece (Group 8) - 3 pts, 2-2
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2. England (Group 12) - 2 pts, 0-0
3. Sweden (Group 4) - 1 pt, 3-4
4. Hungary (Group 2) - 1 pt, 2-3
5. Iceland (Group 1) - 1 pt, 1-2
6. Finland (Group 10) - 1 pt, 0-1
7. Republic of Ireland (Group 13) - 1 pt, 0-1
8. Poland (Group 5) - 1 pt, 3-5
9. Slovakia (Group 7) - 1 pt, 1-5
10. Andorra (Group 3) - 0 pts, 1-4
11. Luxembourg (Group 11) - 0 pts, 0-3
12. Cyprus (Group 6) - 0 pts, 0-4
13. Faroe Islands (Group 9) - 0 pts, 0-8

Through to elite round

Austria, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece*, Israel, Italy (holders), Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Portugal (bye), Romania, Scotland, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Türkiye, Ukraine

*Best third-placed team

https://www.uefa.com/under19/news/027d- ... nd-report/

Elite round draw: https://www.uefa.com/under19/news/0283- ... -december/

[Tazmania]

What is the more embarrassing result?

Sweden 0-0 Liechtenstein in Group 4 matchday 2?

Or Andorra 2-1 Bulgaria in Group 3 matchday 3?

And both Sweden and Bulgaria are playing at home.

Looks like their U19 teams are as bad as their senior teams...

That is one of those misleading results as far as Sweden are concerned.

I watched them outplay Italy this evening but they could only draw 2:2 - in the process missing some good chances and faced by some good goalkeeping - and are therefore eliminated from EURO U19 2024.

Sweden's team has plenty of talented players, believe me.

[Lorric]

Gah, didn't make it, but it was a long shot.

Thanks anyway for doing your thing, @amenina

[amenina]

2023/24 Under-19 EURO elite round draw

https://www.uefa.com/under19/news/0283- ... -december/

The UEFA European Under-19 Championship elite round draw streamed live at 10:30 CET on 7 December will set seven groups for the single-venue mini-tournaments to be played from 18 to 26 March.

Contenders

Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy (holders), Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Portugal (bye), Romania, Scotland, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Türkiye, Ukraine

In the elite round, the 27 teams that emerged from the qualifying round join top seeds Portugal, who enter at this stage.

The elite round group winners will join hosts Northern Ireland in the finals from 15 to 28 July, which also act as UEFA's qualifier for the 2025 FIFA U-20 World Cup.

Draw procedure: https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/02 ... 4_-_en.pdf

The 28 associations participating in the elite round are split into four pots based on their results in the qualifying round. https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/02 ... nts_er.pdf

Pot A: Portugal, Spain, Netherlands, Norway, Scotland, Türkiye, Switzerland

Pot B: Israel, Germany, Denmark, Czechia, Belgium, Austria, Ukraine

Pot C: Kosovo, Croatia, North Macedonia, France, Serbia, Georgia, Bosnia and Herzegovina

Pot D: Romania, Slovenia, Italy, Montenegro, Latvia, Lithuania, Greece

The draw will start with Pot A and end with Pot D. Each pot will be emptied before moving to the next pot.

The teams in Pot A will be drawn one after another and placed in the first position in Groups 1 to 7.

The teams in Pot B will be drawn one after another and each one placed in the second position in one of the seven groups, and the procedure repeated for Pots C (third position) and Pot D (fourth position).

On the basis of decisions taken by the UEFA Executive Committee and the UEFA Emergency Panel, valid at the time of the draws, the following countries cannot be drawn into the same group: Belarus and Ukraine.

The teams will be allocated to groups in ascending order in such a way as to ensure that no winners and runners-up from the same qualifying group meet each other in the elite round. If clashes arise, the team drawn will be moved to the next available group. The draw continues by first filling the slot left vacant. If clashes arise in the last three or four groups, the teams will be allocated to groups appropriately. There is no protection with regard to Greece, who went through as the best third-place finisher in the qualifying round.

Team guide

Italy are the defending champions, after beating Portugal last July in Malta to win their second U19 title since the switch to the current classification in 2001/02. Norway and Spain were beaten semi-finalists, while among the elite round contenders this time around, Greece also qualified.

Other past winners in the draw other than Italy are Spain (8 from a record 13 qualifications), France (3), Germany (2), Portugal (1), Serbia (1) and Ukraine (1).

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Latvia, Montenegro and North Macedonia are aiming to reach the U19 finals for the first time.