2025 FIFA Club World Cup, USA (first 32-team edition)

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MercedesBenz240 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 23:24 Can Al Nassr still qualify without winning this season's CL? What do they need to overtake Kawasaki?

Edit: I mistakenly thought they were 4th, not 5th so it seems they can't possibly make it. If Al Hilal wins it then both Jeonbuk and Ulsan qualify, if I understand this correctly?
Al Nassr can qualify without winning the ACL title, but all three of the following must happen:

1. They have to reach the final. Note that they cannot play Al Hilal in the final since they are both from the West Region.

2. Overtake either Jeonbuk or Ulsan in the ranking. Note that since these two teams play each other in the quarter-finals, they cannot overtake both.

3. The team that they do not overtake are the ACL champions. This way that team won’t be taking the ranking berth and it will be claimed by Al Nassr.
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CAF (updated after end of group stage)

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Ahly win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 24 points (18 match points + 6 bonus points).

Here are the 7 teams (not counting Al Ahly) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Mamelodi Sundowns (RSA) - 93
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ES Tunis (TUN) - 85
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Petro de Luanda (ANG) - 57 (must win title to qualify)
Simba (TAN) - 55 (must win title to qualify)
TP Mazembe (COD) - 24 (must win title to qualify)
ASEC Mimosas (CIV) - 17 (must win title to qualify)
Young Africans (TAN) - 14 (must win title to qualify)
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amenina wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 17:46 AFC (updated after round of 16 second legs)

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Hilal win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 24 points (18 match points + 6 bonus points)

Here are the 7 teams (not counting Al Hilal) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors (KOR) - 79
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Ulsan Hyundai (KOR) - 71
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Al Nassr (KSA) - 58
Yokohama F. Marinos (JPN) - 42 (must win title to qualify)
Al Ain (UAE) - 28 (must win title to qualify)
Al Ittihad (KSA) - 28 (must win title to qualify)
Shandong Taishan (CHN) - 28 (must win title to qualify)
Jeonbuk and Ulsan will play each other over the next weeks in the two-legged quarter-finals.

If Jeonbuk eliminate Ulsan, they will qualify for the FIFA Club World Cup as they are at least guaranteed qualification through the ranking criteria.

If Ulsan eliminate Jeonbuk, they can only be guaranteed qualification after the quarter-finals if they win both legs, thereby picking up 9 ranking points to overtake Jeonbuk.

Any other result Ulsan will need to pick up more ranking points in the semi-finals to ensure qualification.

The loser of this tie may still qualify depending on the eventual results of the ACL.
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amenina wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 00:12
MercedesBenz240 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 23:24 Can Al Nassr still qualify without winning this season's CL? What do they need to overtake Kawasaki?

Edit: I mistakenly thought they were 4th, not 5th so it seems they can't possibly make it. If Al Hilal wins it then both Jeonbuk and Ulsan qualify, if I understand this correctly?
Al Nassr can qualify without winning the ACL title, but all three of the following must happen:

1. They have to reach the final. Note that they cannot play Al Hilal in the final since they are both from the West Region.

2. Overtake either Jeonbuk or Ulsan in the ranking. Note that since these two teams play each other in the quarter-finals, they cannot overtake both.

3. The team that they do not overtake are the ACL champions. This way that team won’t be taking the ranking berth and it will be claimed by Al Nassr.
Thanks!
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Asia and Europe take centre stage in FIFA Club World Cup 2025™ qualification race

https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organis ... up-2025-tm

The inaugural Mundial de Clubes FIFA™ is set for the United States in 2025

Nineteen out of 32 clubs have secured their spot at the tournament

Matches in the UEFA Champions League and AFC Champions League could further narrow the field over the next seven days

Qualification for the inaugural 32-team edition of FIFA’s new prime club competition, Mundial de Clubes FIFA™ (FIFA Club World Cup™), is well underway with many key fixtures to be played over the coming weeks.

Nineteen clubs have already locked in their place. Oceania (OFC) is the only confederation that has no more slots left to fill, however places in Europe (UEFA), Asia (AFC), South America (CONMEBOL), North, Central America and the Caribbean (Concacaf), Asia (AFC), and Africa (CAF) are still up for grabs.

We highlight the key fixtures being played over the next week.


4 March
Al Ain v Al Nassr

5 March
FC Bayern München v SS Lazio
Real Sociedad de Fútbol v Paris Saint-Germain FC
Jeonbuk Motors v Ulsan HD FC

6 March
Real Madrid CF v Rasen Ballsport Leipzig

11 March
Al Nassr v Al Ain

12 March
FC Barcelona v SSC Napoli
Ulsan HD FC v Jeonbuk Motors

13 March
Borussia Dortmund v PSV Eindhoven
Club Atlético de Madrid v FC Internazionale Milano


Italy

SSC Napoli and SS Lazio are still active in the UCL and can clinch their spot by winning the competition. They can also qualify via the ranking pathway.

For Lazio to have a chance of claiming the spot, they would need to make it to the UCL final, and claim an additional 12 ranking points on that journey. Lazio currently lead FC Bayern München 1-0 following their first-leg home match and will travel to Germany on 5 March.

If Lazio fail to accrue 12 more points, Napoli could secure qualification by winning two more matches in the UCL. They are currently locked at 1-1 following their first leg home match against FC Barcelona (ESP) and will play the return leg in Spain on 12 March.

Juventus are currently leading the rankings but cannot earn any further points. They would qualify if Barcelona and Bayern win their ties in March.


Spain

For Real Sociedad to qualify they must win the UCL this season, as they are not in the running to qualify through the ranking pathway. They will look to overcome a 2-0 deficit when they host PSG on 5 March.

Both Club Atlético de Madrid and Barcelona can still qualify via both pathways.

Atlético are in the box seat and could seal their spot if results go their way. If Barcelona and Real Sociedad are both eliminated in the Round of 16, then Atlético – who will face Inter on 13 March following their 1-0 loss in Milan on 20 February – will qualify for the Mundial de Clubes FIFA.

As for Barcelona, they must reach the semi-finals of the UCL while hoping that Atlético and Real Sociedad stumble. The Blaugrana will host Napoli on 12 March after a 1-1 draw in Italy on 21 February.


Germany

BV Borussia 09 Dortmund and Rasen Ballsport Leipzig are the two clubs in the running to join the already qualified (based on ranking) Bayern as Germany’s representatives at the Mundial de Clubes FIFA.

Leipzig – who travel to Spain on 6 March following their 1-0 home loss against Real Madrid – must reach at least the semi-finals of the UCL to have a chance of overhauling

Dortmund, who host PSV on 13 March after a 1-1 draw in first leg. Any other outcome will result in Dortmund taking the spot.


Asia (AFC)

Jeonbuk Motors (KOR), Ulsan HD FC (KOR) and Al Nassr (KSA) are the three clubs still in the running to qualify via rankings, with all three also having a chance to qualify as ACL winners, which is currently at the quarter-final stage.

Jeonbuk take on Ulsan in an all-Korea Republic quarter-final (on 5 and 12 March), with Jeonbuk slightly ahead of Ulsan in the rankings – meaning they will secure qualification by winning this tie.

For Ulsan to qualify, they will need to defeat Jeonbuk in this tie, and will likely need to score points in the semi-final, too. Alternatively, if Al Hilal – who face Al Ittihad FC on 5 and 12 March – win this edition of the ACL, then that would open up an additional rankings spot in Asia, which would allow both sides to potentially go through.

While it is mathematically possible for Al Nassr to qualify via rankings, they are relying on Al Hilal winning the ACL to open up a second ranking spot, Jeonbuk preventing Ulsan from progressing, and then claiming enough points themselves to overtake Ulsan. Al Nassr – who meet Al Ain (UAE) on 4 and 11 March – could also potentially grab second spot in the rankings if Ulsan eliminate Jeonbuk with minimum points before being eliminated in the semi-finals. Al Nassr would then need to earn enough points to exceed Ulsan’s total.
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@MercedesBenz240 After Al Nassr lost in the quarter-finals first leg last night, they can no longer overtake Jeonbuk in the rankings unless they win the ACL.

So for Al Nasst to qualify for the Club World Cup without winning the ACL, the following must both happen:

1. Al Nassr lose to Jeonbuk in the ACL final.

2. They pick up enough ranking points to overtake Ulsan in the rankings. They are currently 13 points behind, and can pick up a maximum of 18 points without winning the ACL (win every match except one leg of the final).
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AFC (updated after quarter-final first legs)

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Hilal win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 21 points (15 match points + 6 bonus points)

Here are the 7 teams (not counting Al Hilal) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors (KOR) - 80
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Ulsan Hyundai (KOR) - 72
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Al Nassr (KSA) - 58
Yokohama F. Marinos (JPN) - 45 (must win title to qualify)
Al Ain (UAE) - 31 (must win title to qualify)
Al Ittihad (KSA) - 28 (must win title to qualify)
Shandong Taishan (CHN) - 28 (must win title to qualify)
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https://twitter.com/FIFAcom/status/1765495930273288520

Congratulations to @BVB on qualifying for the FIFA Club World Cup 2025! 👏

As a result of @RBLeipzig’s @ChampionsLeague elimination, Dortmund are now assured of a spot via the ranking pathway and will join @FCBayern as Germany’s representatives at next year’s tournament.
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If Barcelona does not win the CL, what do they need to do to overtake Atletico provided they go out to Inter? Thanks in advance.
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MercedesBenz240 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 00:28 If Barcelona does not win the CL, what do they need to do to overtake Atletico provided they go out to Inter? Thanks in advance.
Barca needs to make up 6 points. So a win, advance to 1/4 final plus one win in the 1/4 will do it.
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CONCACAF (updated after round of 16 first legs)

1 spot to qualify from ranking if Monterrey win 2024 title. Mexican teams are not eligible.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 27 points (18 match points + 9 bonus points).

Note: Round 1 results are not counted for match points (since not all teams play in this round), but a team which win a round 1 tie is given 3 bonus points for reaching round of 16 (as are teams given a bye to round of 16).

Here are the 15 teams (not counting Monterrey) still competing in 2024, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Philadelphia Union (USA) - 41
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Columbus Crew (USA) - 19 (must win title to qualify, since they have to play Monterrey in the semi-finals)
New England Revolution - 15
Alajuelense (CRC) - 12 (must win title to qualify)
Orlando City (USA) - 9 (must win title to qualify)
Herediano (CRC) - 6 (must win title to qualify)
Inter Miami (USA) - 4 (must win title to qualify)
Nashville (USA) - 4 (must win title to qualify)
Cincinnati (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Houston Dynamo (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Robinhood (SUR) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
America (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Chivas Guadalajara (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Pachuca (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Tigres UANL (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
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Are there any indications of how the extra host spot will be decided? I can imagine finding some way to force Inter Miami in, in case they don't win the Champions Cup.
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MercedesBenz240 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 23:34 Are there any indications of how the extra host spot will be decided? I can imagine finding some way to force Inter Miami in, in case they don't win the Champions Cup.
MLS winner with most points over 4 year period that hasn't qualified.
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 23:35
MercedesBenz240 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 23:34 Are there any indications of how the extra host spot will be decided? I can imagine finding some way to force Inter Miami in, in case they don't win the Champions Cup.
MLS winner with most points over 4 year period that hasn't qualified.
The only MLS team that has qualified is Seattle. They have not won the MLS since 2019. The last three winners are
2021 NYFC
2022 LAFC
2023 Columbus
2024 ?

If one of them also wins in 2024 they should go.
If it’s a different winner, I’d give it to Columbus since they also won in 2020 (the year before).
If Columbus wins the CCC and neither LA or NY wins again, I’d give it to LAFC since they were second in 2023 (unless NYFC is second in 2024).
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