Greek Football Season 2023/24

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nogomet wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:12 How does the schedule for the play-off work? Is it a draw or is it played according to a pre-determined fixture list based on regular season rankings?
Firstly an 'electronic system' will produce 500 different scenarios (draws) and then a human will draw one of those 500 for the Play-offs and Play-outs! :grin1:
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That is crazy.
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nogomet wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:31That is crazy.
In what sense?

At least no-one will complain about cold/warm draw balls 😁

Draw is today, and it could determine a lot.
I'll make my predictions after we have the schedule.
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Firnen wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 21:49
Final Regular Season Standings:

Not so final after all!

Volos is losing 3-0 the match against Kifisia (had ended 0-0) due to the owner's racist attack from the bench against a Kifisia player. It was about time Beos got a serious punishment, let's see if it stands after his appeal.

New standings:

PAOK................19-3-4......60
AEK..................15-8-1......59
Olympiacos........18-3-5......57
Panathinaikos.....17-5-4......56
Aris.................12-6-8......42
Lamia...............9-7-10.....34
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Asteras Tripolis....9-4-13....31
Atromitos..........6-10-10....28
Panserraikos.......6-9-11....27
OFI................5-10-11.....25
Kifisia..............4-9-13.....21
Panaitolikos........4-8-14....20
Volos................4-7-15....19
PAS Giannina.......3-9-14....18

nogomet wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:31That is crazy.
It's not. You can't have a predetermined draw based on regular season positions because the police doesn't allow e.g. Aris and PAOK to play at home the same weekend. There are also TV limitations, 4 of the clubs have a contract with one provider and 2 other with another and there needs to be an evenly spread schedule for both providers.
Then if the draw was simply done by balls, there would be complains about hot and cold balls, fixed draw etc.
Do not underestimate neither the violence (which causes precautionary measures) or the deep hatred in Greek football.
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Crazy in the sense of imagination that is needed to remove any suspicion that the schedule has been tampered with.
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The schedule:

https://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superl ... -katigoria

MD1:

Olympiacos - Panathinaikos
PAOK - Aris
Lamia - AEK
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First MD this Sunday:
PAOK - Aris
Lamia - AEK
Olympiakos - Panathinaikos

Based on the schedule, I give a slight edge to AEK due to not having to play any other games.

I.e. PAOK has to play Dinamo in Zagreb this Thursday, then Aris on Sunday, then Dinamo at home next Thursday.
Similar for Olympiakos.

AEK - 35%
PAOK - 30%
Olympiakos - 25%
Panathinaikos - 10%

Betting odds seem to reflect, more or less, the above.
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Full schedule available at the official league website:
https://www.slgr.gr/en/schedule/22/141/
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Firnen wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 15:04 The schedule:

https://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superl ... -katigoria

MD1:

Olympiacos - Panathinaikos
PAOK - Aris
Lamia - AEK
MD2 which was supposed to take place next weekend (and has AEK-Olympiacos and Panathinaikos-PAOK) will be postponed tomorrow after a request from the national team coach Poyet to give rest and preparation time to the NT players.

This is good news for Olympiacos and PAOK who can focus on the European return leg without having another derby in the back of their mind.
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Full schedule released with dates:

https://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superl ... ton-agonon

MD9 has been scheduled at the date of ECL SF 1st leg, there will be more postponements if a Greek team reaches that stage.
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Greek Cup SF

PAOK vs Panathinaikos 0-1, 2-1 (5-6 pen.)
Panaitolikos vs Aris 0-1, 0-0

Final, May 18th (for now :grin1: )

Panathinaikos v Aris
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Play-Offs MD1

Lamia-AEK 0-4
Olympiacos-Panathinaikos 1-3
PAOK-Aris 0-1


AEK..................16-8-1......62
PAOK................19-3-5......60
Panathinaikos.....18-5-4......59
Olympiacos........18-3-6......57
Aris.................13-6-8......45
Lamia...............9-7-11.....34

AEK immediately returns on top starting the play-offs with their easy match against Lamia and taking advantage of the Thessaloniki derby result, where Aris stopped PAOK for the 3rd time this year.
Panathinaikos ridiculed Olympiacos again and returned in the title fight, copying what Maccabi did on Thursday and remaining undefeated for a 5th match in a row against their eternal rival and 12th out of the last 13, a historically shocking statistic.
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
PAOK repeated the same exact game today as vs. Dinamo.

And managed to lose a game with 76% possession, again with the opponent scoring in their first chance/shot.
Which again was a gift, i.e. a mistake of the defense.

I hoped Lucescu would at least try something different this time, considering he'll have the same problem next Thursday vs. Dinamo.
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The regular season of the Greek second division (Super League 2) has been completed.
AEK B is in the play-offs. AEL has announced that, according to the rules, AEK B should not be able to participate in the play-offs (of course they cannot be promoted).
PAOK B, Oly B and Pana B are in the play-outs. It will be interesting if any of these clubs will be relegated.
Two clubs in total will be promoted and eight will be relegated. Let's see!
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Firnen wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:34 Not so final after all!

Volos is losing 3-0 the match against Kifisia (had ended 0-0) due to the owner's racist attack from the bench against a Kifisia player. It was about time Beos got a serious punishment, let's see if it stands after his appeal.
The decision stood also after the appeal to the 2nd degree court.

However, Volos FC is going to appeal anew to the CAS and the saga continues.

Regardless of its merit, this move will have serious repercussions wrt the rest of the season.
As both Volos (20-1=19 points) and Kifisia (19+2=21 points, +3 goals) will be in the relegation discussion until the very end of the play-outs early May.
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