ECLGS 5th round, Nov. 30.

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Losing both games to PAOK after better xG, shots, chances and everything feels Truman show like. But okay, I see it in a positive way: Leverkusen won their group and Union probably won't make it against Real Madrid. If Freiburg can win in London (unlikely, but who knows) there would be no German team in the next round of EL and ECL because as group winners they all would get a bye. Now there is at least Eintracht to watch. :) And probably Freiburg, which means both slots with a German team.

Eintracht will finally buy a striker and Muani replacement for the 2nd half of the season. I think this was a big factor why they missed the group win, I already said it after the draw months ago. The goal was to survive the (easy) group and then buy a replacement. It was weird to sell their best player when the transfer window in Germany was already closed.
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After Dortmund win in Milan I would take gladly three loses in EL/ECL.
Frankfurt two loses agains PAOK is dissapointing though as the top seeded of the competition. Now, knowing german luck their rival has to be a revitalized winter Ajax.
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MD5 attendances

Eintracht Frankfurt - PAOK 58,000
Aston Villa - Legia 37,866
Astana - Dinamo Zagreb 20,313
AZ Alkmaar - Zrinjski 17,132
Fiorentina - Genk 16,666
Beşiktaş - Club Brugge 13,021
Gent - Zorya Luhansk 10,303
Spartak Trnava - Ludogorets 10,158
HJK - Aberdeen 9,053
Nordsjælland - Fenerbahçe 7,323
Bodø/Glimt - Lugano 6,295
Olimpija Ljubljana - Lille 4,053
Ballkani - Viktoria Plzeň 2,200
Čukarički - Ferencváros 1,389
KÍ Klaksvík - Slovan Bratislava 1,249
Breiðablik - Maccabi Tel Aviv 629
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ultra2013 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 23:47 After Dortmund win in Milan I would take gladly three loses in EL/ECL.
Frankfurt two loses agains PAOK is dissapointing though as the top seeded of the competition. Now, knowing german luck their rival has to be a revitalized winter Ajax.
Rangers could come down and be looking for revenge... :)
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matt wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 23:03 It would be so Ludogorets to win this group after losing 7-1 away and after staying in contention with a last minute win tonight.
Hopefully not.
We barely have any football joy in the country let us be.
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PAOK has not lost a single match since ECL-Q2 (8-3-0 W-D-L). They have collected by far the most number of points compared to other Greek clubs this season.
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I'm expecting Fenerbahce to win in the last round, so it's a H2H battle between Nordsjealland and Ludogorets.

What will happen if Ferencvaros will lose by one goal, and Genk will win by one goal? Who will be on the 2nd place in the group?
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seso wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 06:34 PAOK has not lost a single match since ECL-Q2 (8-3-0 W-D-L). They have collected by far the most number of points compared to other Greek clubs this season.
Aberdeen will not be displeased that PAOK have the group win confirmed, as this makes the final group game vs Frankfurt meaningless (3 days before a domestic cup final). Meanwhile their cup final opponents Rangers have to play a difficult match at Betis on the same evening.

Frankfurt's defending for the first goal last night :confused:
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seso wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 06:34 PAOK has not lost a single match since ECL-Q2 (8-3-0 W-D-L). They have collected by far the most number of points compared to other Greek clubs this season.
Believe it or not, this is enough to only tie the season record in UEFA competitions.

Under Lazlo Boloni, PAOK stayed undefeated for 11 games in the 2011/2 season.

Beating Vålerenga twice in EL-QR3 and qualifying with 1W-1D vs Karpaty Lvov in EL-QR4.

Subsequently topping (!) a group with Rubin Kazan, Tottenham and Shamrock Rovers with a 3W-3D-0L record :!:

Then drawing in Udine (0:0) before losing at home (0:3) to Udinese for the EL-L32 round.

Vieirinha had already been transferred to Wolfsburg the prior summer (2011), so no-one from that team is still at PAOK.
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Jim26 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:21
seso wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 06:34 PAOK has not lost a single match since ECL-Q2 (8-3-0 W-D-L). They have collected by far the most number of points compared to other Greek clubs this season.
Aberdeen will not be displeased that PAOK have the group win confirmed, as this makes the final group game vs Frankfurt meaningless (3 days before a domestic cup final). Meanwhile their cup final opponents Rangers have to play a difficult match at Betis on the same evening.

Frankfurt's defending for the first goal last night :confused:
I think in the last MD PAOK and the Dandies will win easily!
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emortal wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:36
seso wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 06:34 PAOK has not lost a single match since ECL-Q2 (8-3-0 W-D-L). They have collected by far the most number of points compared to other Greek clubs this season.
Believe it or not, this is enough to only tie the season record in UEFA competitions.

Under Lazlo Boloni, PAOK stayed undefeated for 11 games in the 2011/2 season.

Beating Vålerenga twice in EL-QR3 and qualifying with 1W-1D vs Karpaty Lvov in EL-QR4.

Subsequently topping (!) a group with Rubin Kazan, Tottenham and Shamrock Rovers with a 3W-3D-0L record :!:

Then drawing in Udine (0:0) before losing at home (0:3) to Udinese for the EL-L32 round.

Vieirinha had already been transferred to Wolfsburg the prior summer (2011), so no-one from that team is still at PAOK.
Yes, that was equally impressive! Let's see if they can take one step further this season!
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EarlofBug wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:07 I'm expecting Fenerbahce to win in the last round, so it's a H2H battle between Nordsjealland and Ludogorets.

What will happen if Ferencvaros will lose by one goal, and Genk will win by one goal? Who will be on the 2nd place in the group?
If they are tied on total goals scored, the next tiebreakers are: total away goals scored, total wins, total away wins, disciplinary points, club coefficient.

Incredibly, should they both finish with 9 points and the same GD and same total goals scored, they are also tied on the next three criteria (total away goals scored: 4; total wins: 2; total away wins: 1). So it will be disciplinary points to decide who qualify. If still tied, Ferencvaros will go through as the club with the higher coefficient.
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amenina wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 16:18
EarlofBug wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:07 I'm expecting Fenerbahce to win in the last round, so it's a H2H battle between Nordsjealland and Ludogorets.

What will happen if Ferencvaros will lose by one goal, and Genk will win by one goal? Who will be on the 2nd place in the group?
If they are tied on total goals scored, the next tiebreakers are: total away goals scored, total wins, total away wins, disciplinary points, club coefficient.

Incredibly, should they both finish with 9 points and the same GD and same total goals scored, they are also tied on the next three criteria (total away goals scored: 4; total wins: 2; total away wins: 1). So it will be disciplinary points to decide who qualify. If still tied, Ferencvaros will go through as the club with the higher coefficient.
Ferencvaros is currently -12 in disciplinary points and Genk -18, so Ferencvaros has an advantage there as well
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So Genk has to win by more than 1 goal... as I'm expecting that they will be.
There isn't much excitement in the last round.
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